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This August is turning out so far to be rather dire - cool, cloudy and wet.

1st - 8th:
Mean minimum = 12.2C
Mean maximum = 20.6C
Mean = 16.4C
Rain = 36 mm
Sunshine = 30 hours

It doesn't get much worse than the above!

The weather seems to have been in terminal decline since the 20th July.

On this date last August, the mean temperature was a rather better 18.3C
and there had been 52 hours of sunshine. The month ended up with 243
hours of sunshine and a drier than normal 37 mm of rain. Unless there's
a big change in the weather I cannot see this August coming close to
last years for sunshine, dryness and warmth.

It reminds me of the Augusts during the bad old summer days of 2007 to 2012.

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Nick Gardner wrote:

This August is turning out so far to be rather dire - cool, cloudy and wet.

1st - 8th:
Mean minimum = 12.2C
Mean maximum = 20.6C
Mean = 16.4C
Rain = 36 mm
Sunshine = 30 hours

It doesn't get much worse than the above!


I can assure you that it does, Nick!


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My absolute max is 20.3 - lower than your mean max!

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Nick Gardner wrote:

This August is turning out so far to be rather dire - cool, cloudy and wet.

1st - 8th:
Mean minimum = 12.2C
Mean maximum = 20.6C
Mean = 16.4C
Rain = 36 mm
Sunshine = 30 hours

It doesn't get much worse than the above!


I can assure you that it does, Nick!


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With temperatures near freezing here in the last few days, we can only
dream of figures like yours here Nick.

Phil
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 19:29:35 +0100
Nick Gardner wrote:

This August is turning out so far to be rather dire - cool, cloudy and wet.

1st - 8th:
Mean minimum = 12.2C
Mean maximum = 20.6C
Mean = 16.4C
Rain = 36 mm
Sunshine = 30 hours

It doesn't get much worse than the above!

The weather seems to have been in terminal decline since the 20th July.

On this date last August, the mean temperature was a rather better 18.3C
and there had been 52 hours of sunshine. The month ended up with 243
hours of sunshine and a drier than normal 37 mm of rain. Unless there's
a big change in the weather I cannot see this August coming close to
last years for sunshine, dryness and warmth.

It reminds me of the Augusts during the bad old summer days of 2007 to 2012.


Oh don't be such a drama queen, it has not been that bad. Been in tee-shirt and
shorts a lot of days and the sun has been warm and there has been a lot of dry
weather. Just 35.7mm rain so far. Full month average in Haytor (2003-16) is
123mm. Sometimes I think people expect far too much of UK summers. If you want
persistent heat and sun move abroad.

Will
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 14:14:30 -0700 (PDT)
Freddie wrote:

My absolute max is 20.3 - lower than your mean max!


Exactly Nick is on a different planet. My *highest* max. so far this month is
+18.7C ie around normal.

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On 09/08/2017 09:05, Will Hand wrote:
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 19:29:35 +0100
Nick Gardner wrote:

This August is turning out so far to be rather dire - cool, cloudy and wet.

1st - 8th:
Mean minimum = 12.2C
Mean maximum = 20.6C
Mean = 16.4C
Rain = 36 mm
Sunshine = 30 hours

It doesn't get much worse than the above!

The weather seems to have been in terminal decline since the 20th July.

On this date last August, the mean temperature was a rather better 18.3C
and there had been 52 hours of sunshine. The month ended up with 243
hours of sunshine and a drier than normal 37 mm of rain. Unless there's
a big change in the weather I cannot see this August coming close to
last years for sunshine, dryness and warmth.

It reminds me of the Augusts during the bad old summer days of 2007 to 2012.


Oh don't be such a drama queen, it has not been that bad. Been in tee-shirt and
shorts a lot of days


Yeah, but you're *always* in T-shirt & shorts

and the sun has been warm and there has been a lot of dry
weather. Just 35.7mm rain so far. Full month average in Haytor (2003-16) is
123mm. Sometimes I think people expect far too much of UK summers. If you want
persistent heat and sun move abroad.


It's perfectly OK to have a good moan about the weather relative to your
own average conditions rather then comparing to someone else's. You and
Nick might be geographically pretty close but a world away in terms of
climate. A very poor August for him might be average for you.


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On 09/08/2017 09:24, Col wrote:
It's perfectly OK to have a good moan about the weather relative to your
own average conditions rather then comparing to someone else's. You and
Nick might be geographically pretty close but a world away in terms of
climate. A very poor August for him might be average for you.


Exactly Col. We had friends staying for the last few days and we headed
for the beach at the weekend. It was OK when the sun shone but it felt
rather chilly in the wind. And when that sun went in, it was get the
fleeces out! It comes to something that one of the worst spells of
weather of the entire year so far, occurs in August.

I heard the sun may even shine this afternoon - a miracle (if it does).

Currently 14.3C at 10:45 - it has got be a joke (hasn't it?)

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On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:50:58 AM UTC+1, Nick Gardner wrote:
On 09/08/2017 09:24, Col wrote:
It's perfectly OK to have a good moan about the weather relative to your
own average conditions rather then comparing to someone else's. You and
Nick might be geographically pretty close but a world away in terms of
climate. A very poor August for him might be average for you.


Exactly Col. We had friends staying for the last few days and we headed
for the beach at the weekend. It was OK when the sun shone but it felt
rather chilly in the wind. And when that sun went in, it was get the
fleeces out! It comes to something that one of the worst spells of
weather of the entire year so far, occurs in August.

I heard the sun may even shine this afternoon - a miracle (if it does).

Currently 14.3C at 10:45 - it has got be a joke (hasn't it?)

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Otter Valley, Devon
20 m amsl
http://www.ottervalleyweather.me.uk


It's certainly been very poor by any standards. Monday felt fine, the best day of late, because there was virtually no wind, it was dry with spells of sunshine. The temperature still failed to hit 20C.

Overall the temperature has been way below normal. Mean max here now 19.1C, with a absolute maximum of 20.3C - below the normal MEAN max.

Bit more sun than you, 45 hours up at Bosullow from 1st - 8th.

Looks set to be a notably poor summer month, unless things change dramatically.

Graham
Penzance

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:50:52 +0100
Nick Gardner wrote:

On 09/08/2017 09:24, Col wrote:
It's perfectly OK to have a good moan about the weather relative to your
own average conditions rather then comparing to someone else's. You and
Nick might be geographically pretty close but a world away in terms of
climate. A very poor August for him might be average for you.


Exactly Col. We had friends staying for the last few days and we headed
for the beach at the weekend. It was OK when the sun shone but it felt
rather chilly in the wind. And when that sun went in, it was get the
fleeces out! It comes to something that one of the worst spells of
weather of the entire year so far, occurs in August.

I heard the sun may even shine this afternoon - a miracle (if it does).

Currently 14.3C at 10:45 - it has got be a joke (hasn't it?)


Day max. here in Haytor so far +14.6C. Nothing remarkable in that, simply a
cool day in summer and really quite nice in the sunshine right now. This is the
UK not the Costa Whatever.

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