Continuous snow now in Haytor. Only 2 to 3mm sized flakes but lots of them
obscuring visibility. Almost moderate intensity. It is now settlins on all
surfaces (except the main road) and the moor is starting to look white. Frozen
ponds are now completely white of course. T -0.2C. We are on the edge of the
leading convergence line on the radar stretching up to Cardiff and then further
north. The band is very slow moving, how lucky is that?! Came back from my dog
walk with a small icicle on my wooly hat and the Dartmoor ponies are getting a
white coat LOL. Proper winter has started today on my part of Dartmoor.

On 6 Feb 2018, Will Hand wrote
(in . uk):

Continuous snow now in Haytor. Only 2 to 3mm sized flakes but lots of them
obscuring visibility. Almost moderate intensity. It is now settlins on all
surfaces (except the main road) and the moor is starting to look white. Frozen
ponds are now completely white of course. T -0.2C. We are on the edge of the
leading convergence line on the radar stretching up to Cardiff and then
further
north. The band is very slow moving, how lucky is that?! Came back from my dog
walk with a small icicle on my wooly hat and the Dartmoor ponies are getting a
white coat LOL. Proper winter has started today on my part of Dartmoor.

We can all look at the Dartcom camera images, and see reality.

Now look for yourself, and try again.....

On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 16:47:27 +0000
johnny-knowall wrote:

On 6 Feb 2018, Will Hand wrote
(in . uk):

Continuous snow now in Haytor. Only 2 to 3mm sized flakes but lots of them
obscuring visibility. Almost moderate intensity. It is now settlins on all
surfaces (except the main road) and the moor is starting to look white.
Frozen ponds are now completely white of course. T -0.2C. We are on the
edge of the leading convergence line on the radar stretching up to Cardiff
and then further
north. The band is very slow moving, how lucky is that?! Came back from my
dog walk with a small icicle on my wooly hat and the Dartmoor ponies are
getting a white coat LOL. Proper winter has started today on my part of
Dartmoor.

We can all look at the Dartcom camera images, and see reality.

Now look for yourself, and try again.....


I'm getting fed up with you David. That webcam is 7 miles west of me, even so
it does show a bit of snow. I did say it was a convergence line which for your
information tend to be narrow. It is quite white around Hay Tor now and still
snowing lightly here. This is the second time you have accused me of lying
David. Now get a life you troll.

On 6 Feb 2018, Will Hand wrote
(in . uk):

On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 16:47:27 +0000
johnny-knowall wrote:

On 6 Feb 2018, Will Hand wrote
(in . uk):

Continuous snow now in Haytor. Only 2 to 3mm sized flakes but lots of them
obscuring visibility. Almost moderate intensity. It is now settlins on all
surfaces (except the main road) and the moor is starting to look white.
Frozen ponds are now completely white of course. T -0.2C. We are on the
edge of the leading convergence line on the radar stretching up to Cardiff
and then further
north. The band is very slow moving, how lucky is that?! Came back from my
dog walk with a small icicle on my wooly hat and the Dartmoor ponies are
getting a white coat LOL. Proper winter has started today on my part of
Dartmoor.

We can all look at the Dartcom camera images, and see reality.

Now look for yourself, and try again.....

I'm getting fed up with you David.

Why? Because I tell the truth as I see it?

Hardly a reason to slag me off, or give my name out publicly onto the
internet.

That webcam is 7 miles west of me, even so
it does show a bit of snow.

It shows a tiny bit of snow, and is mostly green.

I did say it was a convergence line which for your
information tend to be narrow. It is quite white around Hay Tor now and still
snowing lightly here.

Yeah right. We all believe you.

This is the second time you have accused me of lying
David.

That is a lie.

I am only accusing you of exaggeration for some kind of egotistical effect.

Now get a life you troll.

Oh! the irony.

Would be good if you actually knew what irony was... or even a localised convergence line... then you might at least know something about meteorology and how it is properly observed.
Those who know "do" and those who dont 'troll" to cause mischief and disquiet.

Boring minds cannot keep useless crap (like yours) to themselves, rhey have to say something to try to hide their ignorance.

This is a weather discussion group, why are you here if you cannot understand it or are not interested in learning about it from a career Meteorologist?

Must be really dull and boring in your brain.

Hope you continue to have a nice uneventful life.

On 6 Feb 2018, Crusader wrote
(in ):

Would be good if you actually knew what irony was... or even a localised
convergence line... then you might at least know something about meteorology
and how it is properly observed.
Those who know "do" and those who dont 'troll" to cause mischief and disquiet.

Boring minds cannot keep useless crap (like yours) to themselves, rhey have
to say something to try to hide their ignorance.

This is a weather discussion group, why are you here if you cannot understand
it or are not interested in learning about it from a career Meteorologist?

Must be really dull and boring in your brain.

Hope you continue to have a nice uneventful life.

Your post would be creditable, were any of it actually true.

I have looked at the rainfall radar and its 24 hour accumulation figures for
yesterday and they give 0.25mm for much of Dartmoor. The only area with
2.5-3.5mm is to the west of Dartmoor in the area around Princetown which also
shows up well on this morning’s visual satellite images. However, Haytor is
at the extreme east of the high ground and well away from that area.

If there were localised convergence areas, they don’t show up on yesterdays
high definition radar images, nor are the results visible from space this
morning.

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 11:34:09 UTC+1, johnny-knowall wrote:
On 6 Feb 2018, Crusader wrote
(in ):

Would be good if you actually knew what irony was... or even a localised
convergence line... then you might at least know something about meteorology
and how it is properly observed.
Those who know "do" and those who dont 'troll" to cause mischief and disquiet.

Boring minds cannot keep useless crap (like yours) to themselves, rhey have
to say something to try to hide their ignorance.

This is a weather discussion group, why are you here if you cannot understand
it or are not interested in learning about it from a career Meteorologist?

Must be really dull and boring in your brain.

Hope you continue to have a nice uneventful life.

Your post would be creditable, were any of it actually true.

I have looked at the rainfall radar and its 24 hour accumulation figures for
yesterday and they give 0.25mm for much of Dartmoor. The only area with
2.5-3.5mm is to the west of Dartmoor in the area around Princetown which also
shows up well on this morning’s visual satellite images. However, Haytor is
at the extreme east of the high ground and well away from that area.

If there were localised convergence areas, they don’t show up on yesterdays
high definition radar images, nor are the results visible from space this
morning.

I don't know why you would wish to doubt someone's reports. There have been plenty of exaggerated posts on here over the years, particularly for snow depths when some people seemed to have been confused between inches and centimetres, but I have found that most people have been totally honest about their reports.
Weather can vary hugely over very small distances. My nearest reporting weather station is approximately 5 miles away as the crow flies, and generally the comparisons are very similar, but not always.
There are significant differences between what happens on the hill here and at the bottom a mere 50m below, in terms of snow cover and temperature.
What are you trying to prove with your comments?

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 10:34:09 UTC, johnny-knowall wrote:
On 6 Feb 2018, Crusader wrote
(in ):

Would be good if you actually knew what irony was... or even a localised
convergence line... then you might at least know something about meteorology
and how it is properly observed.
Those who know "do" and those who dont 'troll" to cause mischief and disquiet.

Boring minds cannot keep useless crap (like yours) to themselves, rhey have
to say something to try to hide their ignorance.

This is a weather discussion group, why are you here if you cannot understand
it or are not interested in learning about it from a career Meteorologist?

Must be really dull and boring in your brain.

Hope you continue to have a nice uneventful life.

Your post would be creditable, were any of it actually true.

I have looked at the rainfall radar and its 24 hour accumulation figures for
yesterday and they give 0.25mm for much of Dartmoor. The only area with
2.5-3.5mm is to the west of Dartmoor in the area around Princetown which also
shows up well on this morning’s visual satellite images. However, Haytor is
at the extreme east of the high ground and well away from that area.
Radar isn't completely accurate. There are shadow areas (usually compensated for in image processing, but can be dependent upon wind direction and temperature/humidity vertical profile). Also, there are showers that radar struggles to resolve due to their small size.


If there were localised convergence areas, they don’t show up on yesterdays
high definition radar images, nor are the results visible from space this
morning.
Do you actually know what you are looking for? I was keeping an eye on more than one convergence line yesterday. Regarding results - snow has a habit of melting and/or sublimating. Also, it needs a not insignificant depth to be visible from space - so a centimetre may well not show up, especially if it overlays a dark peaty soil.

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I've put a radar image from yesterday afternoon on the weather & climate forum to try and clarify any misunderstanding about the situation with snow across the southwest. This link should take you to it hopefully:-

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...te/KT2jddpdrjM

This is my crafty way of getting you to join the forum!