I admit to being an occasional lurker, and a bit of a fan of Will's posts especially given the coming week. Shame that the conduct of some have lead him to leave.

On 24/02/2018 19:40, ElGriffo wrote:
I admit to being an occasional lurker, and a bit of a fan of Will's posts especially given the coming week. Shame that the conduct of some have lead him to leave.


Not so.
There was just one idiot who accused Will of lying about his
observations and instead of simply ignoring/killfiling him he rose to
the bait and allowed himself to be trolled.

--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg

On 25/02/2018 05:01, Col wrote:
On 24/02/2018 19:40, ElGriffo wrote:
I admit to being an occasional lurker, and a bit of a fan of Will's
posts especially given the coming week. Shame that the conduct of some
have lead him to leave.


Not so.
There was just one idiot who accused Will of lying about his
observations and instead of simply ignoring/killfiling him he rose to
the bait and allowed himself to be trolled.

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It is a great shame, especially with these potentially snowy set ups. As
Col alluded to though it has been a bit of a self destruct. There was
the tedious bickering with Dawlish and an apparent change of attitude in
recent years. I was one of the earliest members of the Group along with
Will and considered him an internet friend. The Group was really ruined
by "Jumper" but what did it for me, having never instigated a political
thread, was when I responded to a racist comment in one of his(
Jumper's) threads (I am never prepared to let racism go unchallenged)
Will decided to killfile me for some reason! I decided like several
others to contribute more in a new Weather forum afterwards as did
several others.

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On Saturday, 24 February 2018 19:40:18 UTC, Mark Griffiths wrote:
I admit to being an occasional lurker, and a bit of a fan of Will's posts especially given the coming week. Shame that the conduct of some have lead him to leave.

I'm sure Will is still here lurking but never makes posts, There is room for all types of folks on this forum and it's obvious that some folks just wont get on, It would be a boring World if we were all the same.

On 25 Feb 2018, wrote
(in ):

On Saturday, 24 February 2018 19:40:18 UTC, Mark Griffiths wrote:
I admit to being an occasional lurker, and a bit of a fan of Will's posts
especially given the coming week. Shame that the conduct of some have lead
him to leave.

I'm sure Will is still here lurking but never makes posts, There is room for
all types of folks on this forum and it's obvious that some folks just wont
get on, It would be a boring World if we were all the same.

Look. This is all aimed against me.

I did not force him to leave. No one forced him to leave.

I did not even accuse him of being a liar.

All I did was mention that his versions of Dartmoor weather were rather at
odds with what I could see on the Dartcom camera and website. Since when has
that been a crime?

You can slag me off as much as you like, but you do yourselves no favours in
the sanctimonious holier than thou stakes concerning trolls.

It is up to you if you want to believe a webcam or a person who could (at the
time) have walked out of his house with his mobile and taken half a dozen
photos of his garden and posted links to blow my accusations out of the
water.

He chose not to do that, but chose to leave. Make up your own mind.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 11:40:16 -0800 (PST)
ElGriffo wrote:

I admit to being an occasional lurker, and a bit of a fan of Will's
posts especially given the coming week. Shame that the conduct of
some have lead him to leave.



It seemed to me that it was mostly Will's own conduct that lead to his
leaving - he appeared to have been radicalised by some extreme coldy
sect. He began making peculiar value judgements about different types of
weather and could no longer tolerate anyone who didn't completely align
with him.

Just my 2p, of course.

On 25/02/2018 14:37, Dave Cornwell wrote:
On 25/02/2018 05:01, Col wrote:
On 24/02/2018 19:40, ElGriffo wrote:
I admit to being an occasional lurker, and a bit of a fan of Will's
posts especially given the coming week. Shame that the conduct of
some have lead him to leave.


Not so.
There was just one idiot who accused Will of lying about his
observations and instead of simply ignoring/killfiling him he rose to
the bait and allowed himself to be trolled.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
It is a great shame, especially with these potentially snowy set ups. As
Col alluded to though it has been a bit of a self destruct. There was
the tedious bickering with Dawlish and an apparent change of attitude in
recent years. I was one of the earliest members of the Group along with
Will and considered him an internet friend. The Group was really ruined
by "Jumper" but what did it for me, having never instigated a political
thread, was when I responded to a racist comment in one of his(
Jumper's) threads (I am never prepared to let racism go unchallenged)
Will decided to killfile me for some reason! I decided like several
others to contribute more in a new Weather forum afterwards as did
several others.

Hasn't just about everybody been in Will's killfile at some point? I
ended up in there after an argument over Brexit just after the
referendum. AS for Egginton, well I know how you feel that racism should
always be challenged but these days I try to resist the temptation to do
it on here. If he needs slapping down then I do it on the political
newsgroups where at least it is on-topic, rather than here.He was once a
well-respected contributor but a few years ago he suddenly went off the
rails, I wonder what happened there, a sad case.

You know I was thinking that 10 or so years ago this group would be a
frenzy of excitement regarding the current cold/snow. Now, barely a
mention of it. Many posts seem to be routine weather reports. Nothing
wrong with that of course but a group needs more than this if it is to
maintain interest. I am finding I am spending much more time on TWO
these days.

--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg

On 25/02/2018 19:05, johnny-knowall wrote:
On 25 Feb 2018, wrote
(in ):

On Saturday, 24 February 2018 19:40:18 UTC, Mark Griffiths wrote:
I admit to being an occasional lurker, and a bit of a fan of Will's posts
especially given the coming week. Shame that the conduct of some have lead
him to leave.

I'm sure Will is still here lurking but never makes posts, There is room for
all types of folks on this forum and it's obvious that some folks just wont
get on, It would be a boring World if we were all the same.

Look. This is all aimed against me.

I did not force him to leave. No one forced him to leave.

I did not even accuse him of being a liar.

Not in so many words perhaps, but that was the obvious implication.

All I did was mention that his versions of Dartmoor weather were rather at
odds with what I could see on the Dartcom camera and website. Since when has
that been a crime?

You can slag me off as much as you like, but you do yourselves no favours in
the sanctimonious holier than thou stakes concerning trolls.

It is up to you if you want to believe a webcam or a person who could (at the
time) have walked out of his house with his mobile and taken half a dozen
photos of his garden and posted links to blow my accusations out of the
water.

Will is a seasoned and professional observer. Why on earth should he
scurry around providing evidence for the likes of you that he is not in
fact lying as to his observations?

And more to the point why would he lie anyway, what would he gain from it?

--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg

You chose to question his observations on at least 2 occasions, why?

I will be posting some observations in due course, would you like me to supply you with some local webcam and weather station sites so you can add some doubt to mine?

Col wrote:

On 25/02/2018 14:37, Dave Cornwell wrote:
On 25/02/2018 05:01, Col wrote:
On 24/02/2018 19:40, ElGriffo wrote:
I admit to being an occasional lurker, and a bit of a fan of
Will's posts especially given the coming week. Shame that the
conduct of some have lead him to leave.


Not so.
There was just one idiot who accused Will of lying about his
observations and instead of simply ignoring/killfiling him he
rose to the bait and allowed himself to be trolled.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
------ It is a great shame, especially with these potentially snowy
set ups. As Col alluded to though it has been a bit of a self
destruct. There was the tedious bickering with Dawlish and an
apparent change of attitude in recent years. I was one of the
earliest members of the Group along with Will and considered him
an internet friend. The Group was really ruined by "Jumper" but
what did it for me, having never instigated a political thread,
was when I responded to a racist comment in one of his( Jumper's)
threads (I am never prepared to let racism go unchallenged) Will
decided to killfile me for some reason! I decided like several
others to contribute more in a new Weather forum afterwards as did
several others.

Hasn't just about everybody been in Will's killfile at some point? I
ended up in there after an argument over Brexit just after the
referendum. AS for Egginton, well I know how you feel that racism
should always be challenged but these days I try to resist the
temptation to do it on here. If he needs slapping down then I do it
on the political newsgroups where at least it is on-topic, rather
than here.He was once a well-respected contributor but a few years
ago he suddenly went off the rails, I wonder what happened there, a
sad case.

You know I was thinking that 10 or so years ago this group would be a
frenzy of excitement regarding the current cold/snow. Now, barely a
mention of it. Many posts seem to be routine weather reports. Nothing
wrong with that of course but a group needs more than this if it is
to maintain interest. I am finding I am spending much more time on
TWO these days.

I think those who populate usw these days are to be congratulated that
they have not joined in the hype that has been prevalent elsewhere. I
think the majority on here are very capable of digesting the content of
the various models and making a fair assessment of the probabilities.
The 'wish-casting' that's so prevalent today is best left to other
places, along with the toys and prams! IMHO it's best to enjoy whatever
the weather gods throw at you and document it accurately.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr