I see that the Met Office have started to use the term 'mild' in some
weather forecasts recently. For example, in the current forecast for
the Peak District Saturday is forecast to be 'Mild with light winds'
and Sunday is forecast to be 'mild or warm with light winds'. I had
always understood that, in this country, the term 'mild' was reserved
for use during with colder months of the year and implied temperatures
above average. What it is intended to mean in June I'm not sure. I know
that the term is used rather differently in other countries but has
there been a change in its use here?

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

On Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:40:08 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
I see that the Met Office have started to use the term 'mild' in some
weather forecasts recently. For example, in the current forecast for
the Peak District Saturday is forecast to be 'Mild with light winds'
and Sunday is forecast to be 'mild or warm with light winds'. I had
always understood that, in this country, the term 'mild' was reserved
for use during with colder months of the year and implied temperatures
above average. What it is intended to mean in June I'm not sure. I know
that the term is used rather differently in other countries but has
there been a change in its use here?

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

I think that mild in June would mean overnight temperatures above average. On May 31st, I went shopping early in the morning. There are no buses at that time so I walked there and back and the temperature was below 15c but the humidity was high. The weather was unpleasant, there was low cloud and mist but the day was sunny and the humidity lower.

Nicholas
Meir Heath, Stoke-On-Trent 250m above sea level.

Nicholas Randall wrote:

On Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:40:08 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
I see that the Met Office have started to use the term 'mild' in
some weather forecasts recently. For example, in the current
forecast for the Peak District Saturday is forecast to be 'Mild
with light winds' and Sunday is forecast to be 'mild or warm with
light winds'. I had always understood that, in this country, the
term 'mild' was reserved for use during with colder months of the
year and implied temperatures above average. What it is intended to
mean in June I'm not sure. I know that the term is used rather
differently in other countries but has there been a change in its
use here?

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

I think that mild in June would mean overnight temperatures above
average. On May 31st, I went shopping early in the morning. There are
no buses at that time so I walked there and back and the temperature
was below 15c but the humidity was high. The weather was unpleasant,
there was low cloud and mist but the day was sunny and the humidity
lower.

Nicholas
Meir Heath, Stoke-On-Trent 250m above sea level.


I've never seen that definition.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

On Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:40:08 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
I see that the Met Office have started to use the term 'mild' in some
weather forecasts recently. For example, in the current forecast for
the Peak District Saturday is forecast to be 'Mild with light winds'
and Sunday is forecast to be 'mild or warm with light winds'. I had
always understood that, in this country, the term 'mild' was reserved
for use during with colder months of the year and implied temperatures
above average. What it is intended to mean in June I'm not sure. I know
that the term is used rather differently in other countries but has
there been a change in its use here?

--
That was my definition.
In the dictionary the definition of mild is moderately warm.

Nicholas
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

I agree with you Norman. Mild should only be used in the months NDJFMA. The trouble is that convention has been totally forgotten by the same presenters that now use the phrase. "sprinkles" for a light shower. In the past a January day was described as mild, very mild or exceptionally mild when more often or not these days it's termed as warm. My problem is that I'm just an old fuddy-duddy and stuck in the past and reluctant to change, and why for most of the time watch the weather on TV with the volume muted!

wrote:

I agree with you Norman. Mild should only be used in the months
NDJFMA. The trouble is that convention has been totally forgotten by
the same presenters that now use the phrase. "sprinkles" for a light
shower. In the past a January day was described as mild, very mild or
exceptionally mild when more often or not these days it's termed as
warm. My problem is that I'm just an old fuddy-duddy and stuck in the
past and reluctant to change, and why for most of the time watch the
weather on TV with the volume muted!

What surprised me is that the term 'mild' is being used currently in
written forecasts issued by the Met Office. I expect such sloppiness in
TV and radio presentations but I hoped that the Met Office would be a
bit more professional. I'm sure that 'mild', 'warm', etc are (or were)
strictly defined by the Met Office but I can't locate those definitions.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:40:08 PM UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
I see that the Met Office have started to use the term 'mild' in some
weather forecasts recently. For example, in the current forecast for
the Peak District Saturday is forecast to be 'Mild with light winds'
and Sunday is forecast to be 'mild or warm with light winds'. I had
always understood that, in this country, the term 'mild' was reserved
for use during with colder months of the year and implied temperatures
above average. What it is intended to mean in June I'm not sure. I know
that the term is used rather differently in other countries but has
there been a change in its use here?

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

From: Peter Lea-Cox,

I also recall the times when there was a distinct code when referring to temperature. Mild for the colder six months; warm for the others. Cool and cold were exchanged in parallel with this. Also, all temperatures were related to the average and that there was fact rather than feeling associated with these. Above/below average, rather warm/cool; warm/cool; very warm/cool. I suppose that the population does not know what the average temperatures for their area is!

On Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:40:08 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
I see that the Met Office have started to use the term 'mild' in some
weather forecasts recently. For example, in the current forecast for
the Peak District Saturday is forecast to be 'Mild with light winds'
and Sunday is forecast to be 'mild or warm with light winds'. I had
always understood that, in this country, the term 'mild' was reserved
for use during with colder months of the year and implied temperatures
above average. What it is intended to mean in June I'm not sure. I know
that the term is used rather differently in other countries but has
there been a change in its use here?

Well, there shouldn't have been. "Mild" means essentially "not nasty" or "not excessive" e.g. "mild 'flu symptoms". To use it to describe temperatures in summer in Britain is simply inappropriate, a bit illiterate even.. "Mild" is for winter occasions when the weather is not as nasty and cold as it usually is. To describe a summer night as "mild" is simply ridiculous. If the night-time temperature in summer is above average in it's not mild, it's close, oppressive or, believe it or not, warm.
While we're about it I could do without "sharp showers". I've never heard anyone in real life use it. Equally "grass frost". What's wrong with "ground frost"? Does a grass frost avoid roads and pavements? These people are so silly.

Tudor Hughes

On Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:40:08 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
I see that the Met Office have started to use the term 'mild' in some
weather forecasts recently. For example, in the current forecast for
the Peak District Saturday is forecast to be 'Mild with light winds'
and Sunday is forecast to be 'mild or warm with light winds'. I had
always understood that, in this country, the term 'mild' was reserved
for use during with colder months of the year and implied temperatures
above average. What it is intended to mean in June I'm not sure. I know
that the term is used rather differently in other countries but has
there been a change in its use here?

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

On Friday night, the Met Office used the term mild to state that it would be a mild night. I thought it was acceptable as the temperature was above average. Last night, they used the term warm to state that it would be a warm night. Having read your message, it seems that it is not correct to use the term mild in June and I was wrong to assume it was.

Nicholas