Met office must be losing it!
Today was supposed to be a cloudy start then sunny spells by early
afternoon, fat chance of any sun today.
Overcast with rain and drizzle all day. Tomorrows forecast says the same as
it did today, 'some drizzle then brighter'............. I wonder!!


Graham (Weston Coyney) North West Midlands.

On Monday, 15 October 2018 16:54:17 UTC+1, Graham wrote:
Met office must be losing it!
Today was supposed to be a cloudy start then sunny spells by early
afternoon, fat chance of any sun today.
Overcast with rain and drizzle all day. Tomorrows forecast says the same as
it did today, 'some drizzle then brighter'............. I wonder!!


Graham (Weston Coyney) North West Midlands.

I was expecting cloud and drizzle today here near Brighton but after a cloudy start it's been pretty much unbroken sunshine since around 10.30 and a max of 19.8 with a light SE breeze.
A truly lovely Autumn day.

Rob

Graham wrote:

Met office must be losing it!
Today was supposed to be a cloudy start then sunny spells by early
afternoon, fat chance of any sun today. Overcast with rain and
drizzle all day. Tomorrows forecast says the same as it did today,
'some drizzle then brighter'............. I wonder!!


Graham (Weston Coyney) North West Midlands.

The automated forecast for Tideswell issued at 0600 this morning gave
the following hourly percentage probabilities for precipitation:

0700 60%
0800 80%
0900 30%
1000 20%
1100 10%
1200 10%
1300 10%
1400 10%
1500 10%
1600 10%
1700 10%
1800 10%
1900 10%

In reality, there has been slight rain and drizzle for much of the day.
Not amounting to much in the rain gauge but very wetting, nonetheless.

A number of people in Tideswell and Buxton have given me their thoughts
about crap weather forecasting using very basic Anglo-Saxon expletives!

At the very least, these automated forecasts should come with a very
strong health warning. Ideally, they should be discontinued. The models
just aren't good enough yet.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.

At the very least, these automated forecasts should come with a very
strong health warning. Ideally, they should be discontinued. The models
just aren't good enough yet.


Think you are right Norman, complete waste of time. Midlands forecaster said
today the further north and west you are the better chance of sunshine, must
be having a laugh!!
I don't think we can get any further north and west.

Sunshine Zero

Very drippy day with 1.5mm in my manual gauge since 10.00 GMT

Graham (Weston Coyney)

On 15/10/2018 19:59, Graham wrote:


At the very least, these automated forecasts should come with a very
strong health warning. Ideally, they should be discontinued. The models
just aren't good enough yet.


Think you are right Norman, complete waste of time. Midlands forecaster
said today the further north and west you are the better chance of
sunshine, must be having a laugh!!
I don't think we can get any further north and west.

Sunshine Zero

Very drippy day with 1.5mm in my manual gauge since 10.00 GMT

Graham (Weston Coyney)

When the wind's from the east, forecasts are rarely anywhere near right.
You just have to make odd adjustments here and there, like when they
talk about "eastern coastal districts" you have to realise that places
like Birmingham have to be counted as being east coast seaside resorts.

East winds are always colder and stronger than forecast. If you hear
them say there'll be a light NE breeze with a little rain, don't bother
with an umbrella as the wind will turn it inside out.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
"There is nothing more frustrating than playing hide and seek with a
deaf wolf." [Benton Fraser]
OS: Linux [openSUSE Tumbleweed]

On Monday, 15 October 2018 16:54:17 UTC+1, Graham wrote:
Met office must be losing it!
Today was supposed to be a cloudy start then sunny spells by early
afternoon, fat chance of any sun today.
Overcast with rain and drizzle all day. Tomorrows forecast says the same as
it did today, 'some drizzle then brighter'............. I wonder!!


Graham (Weston Coyney) North West Midlands.

Eastern coastal districts should mean places on the east coast. Birmingham is not in that region and should not be included in it. I was reading the West Midlands forecast on the Met Office website two days ago, and it mentioned the coasts. I think that was wrong as no part of the West Midlands is on the coast.

Nicholas
Meir Heath, Stoke-On-Trent 250 m above sea level.

Graham wrote:



At the very least, these automated forecasts should come with a very
strong health warning. Ideally, they should be discontinued. The
models just aren't good enough yet.


Think you are right Norman, complete waste of time. Midlands
forecaster said today the further north and west you are the better
chance of sunshine, must be having a laugh!! I don't think we can
get any further north and west.

Sunshine Zero

Very drippy day with 1.5mm in my manual gauge since 10.00 GMT

Graham (Weston Coyney)


I never look at the regional forecast. The way the Met Office divides
the country up puts us in the East Midlands, though we are much nearer
the west coast than the east coast and, of course, we are much higher
than most parts of the East Midlands. The Peak District Mountain
Weather Forecast should be a better bet for here but, effectively,
there is only one issue per day, in the late afternoon. Nominally,
there is another issue, in the early morning but that one is usually
just a re-issue of the previous afternoon's issue, complete with the
same typos, with the only change being the stated time of issue.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.

On 16/10/2018 08:20, Nicholas Randall wrote:
On Monday, 15 October 2018 16:54:17 UTC+1, Graham wrote:
Met office must be losing it! Today was supposed to be a cloudy
start then sunny spells by early afternoon, fat chance of any sun
today. Overcast with rain and drizzle all day. Tomorrows forecast
says the same as it did today, 'some drizzle then
brighter'............. I wonder!!


Graham (Weston Coyney) North West Midlands.

Eastern coastal districts should mean places on the east coast.
Birmingham is not in that region and should not be included in it. I
was reading the West Midlands forecast on the Met Office website two
days ago, and it mentioned the coasts. I think that was wrong as no
part of the West Midlands is on the coast.


As I pointed out in my earlier post, that's what happens with
easterlies. I noticed when I was a child that forecasters could not
handle them correctly and they still haven't figured them out.

Another annoying thing about easterlies I found is that I occasionally
experienced them in north-westerlies. Never could figure out why, on the
odd occasion in a light to moderate NW gradient, the surface wind over E
Anglia by about nine o'clock (shortly after telling anyone who asked
that the runway to use would be 24 and not 06) would have slowly swung
east of north, thereafter persisting as north-easterly for the rest of
the day. Not a sea breeze - at least not a typical one - and no visible
reason for ageostrophic motion, but surface air would flow directly from
low to high pressure. Maybe the weather gods had it in for me.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
"There is nothing more frustrating than playing hide and seek with a
deaf wolf." [Benton Fraser]
OS: Linux [openSUSE Tumbleweed]

On 15/10/2018 16:54, Graham wrote:
Met office must be losing it!
Today was supposed to be a cloudy start then sunny spells by early
afternoon, fat chance of any sun today.

To be fair to them it was pretty accurate for North Yorkshire.
Brightened up nicely in the afternoon after a dull wet start.

Overcast with rain and drizzle all day. Tomorrows forecast says the same
as it did today, 'some drizzle then brighter'............. I wonder!!


Graham (Weston Coyney) North West Midlands.


--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Tuesday, 16 October 2018 09:37:56 UTC+1, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 16/10/2018 08:20, Nicholas Randall wrote:
On Monday, 15 October 2018 16:54:17 UTC+1, Graham wrote:
Met office must be losing it! Today was supposed to be a cloudy
start then sunny spells by early afternoon, fat chance of any sun
today. Overcast with rain and drizzle all day. Tomorrows forecast
says the same as it did today, 'some drizzle then
brighter'............. I wonder!!


Graham (Weston Coyney) North West Midlands.

Eastern coastal districts should mean places on the east coast.
Birmingham is not in that region and should not be included in it. I
was reading the West Midlands forecast on the Met Office website two
days ago, and it mentioned the coasts. I think that was wrong as no
part of the West Midlands is on the coast.


As I pointed out in my earlier post, that's what happens with
easterlies. I noticed when I was a child that forecasters could not
handle them correctly and they still haven't figured them out.

It wasn't so much the easterly that gave problems, rather the behaviour of the waves running along the forward side of the disrupting long-wave upper trough.

--
Freddie
Ystrad
Rhondda
148m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
https://twitter.com/YstradRhonddaWx for hourly reports (no wind measurement currently)
Stats for the month so far: https://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/st...201810OCT.xlsx