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Top five global temperature anomalies for November from GISS:
2015: +1.26C 2019: +1.22C 2016: +1.10C 2017: +1.08C 2013: +1.05C 12-month anomalies ending in the month of November: 2015-16: +1.24C 2018-19: +1.17C 2016-17: +1.12C 2014-15: +1.07C 2017-18: +1.05C Differences are wrt IPCC "pre-industrial" era. [This period is better described as the Early Industrial Era and probably underestimates the true anomaly over the Pre-Industrial Era by about 0.2C] Graph of temperature anomalies has been updated at: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/science/...e-change/#data -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ “Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, my side, and the truth.” [Ambassador Kosh] Posted via Mozilla Thunderbird on openSUSE Tumbleweed. |
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On 17/12/2019 09:05, Graham P Davis wrote:
Top five global temperature anomalies for November from GISS: 2015: +1.26C 2019: +1.22C 2016: +1.10C 2017: +1.08C 2013: +1.05C 12-month anomalies ending in the month of November: 2015-16: +1.24C 2018-19: +1.17C 2016-17: +1.12C 2014-15: +1.07C 2017-18: +1.05C Differences are wrt IPCC "pre-industrial" era. [This period is better described as the Early Industrial Era and probably underestimates the true anomaly over the Pre-Industrial Era by about 0.2C] Graph of temperature anomalies has been updated at: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/science/...e-change/#data If the temperatures mentioned above are referred to those of the Roman Warm Period or the Medieval Warm Period rather than to those of the Little Ice Age (also known as the Pre-Industrial Era), they would be negative rather than positive. It's interesting also to note that the figures given above are in line with the excess temperatures of the Urban Heat Island effect, first measured in the early 1800s at 2.0 degF. -- Spike |
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On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 9:25:37 AM UTC, Spike wrote:
On 17/12/2019 09:05, Graham P Davis wrote: Top five global temperature anomalies for November from GISS: 2015: +1.26C 2019: +1.22C 2016: +1.10C 2017: +1.08C 2013: +1.05C 12-month anomalies ending in the month of November: 2015-16: +1.24C 2018-19: +1.17C 2016-17: +1.12C 2014-15: +1.07C 2017-18: +1.05C Differences are wrt IPCC "pre-industrial" era. [This period is better described as the Early Industrial Era and probably underestimates the true anomaly over the Pre-Industrial Era by about 0.2C] Graph of temperature anomalies has been updated at: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/science/...e-change/#data If the temperatures mentioned above are referred to those of the Roman Warm Period or the Medieval Warm Period rather than to those of the Little Ice Age (also known as the Pre-Industrial Era), they would be negative rather than positive. It's interesting also to note that the figures given above are in line with the excess temperatures of the Urban Heat Island effect, first measured in the early 1800s at 2.0 degF. -- Spike Denial denial denial. All the science is wrong and the Trumpian deniers know best. I honestly thought you and yours were past this crap. No-one takes you seriously any more - except for fellow deniers. Oh well. |
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On Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:38:12 UTC, wrote:
On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 9:25:37 AM UTC, Spike wrote: On 17/12/2019 09:05, Graham P Davis wrote: Top five global temperature anomalies for November from GISS: 2015: +1.26C 2019: +1.22C 2016: +1.10C 2017: +1.08C 2013: +1.05C 12-month anomalies ending in the month of November: 2015-16: +1.24C 2018-19: +1.17C 2016-17: +1.12C 2014-15: +1.07C 2017-18: +1.05C Differences are wrt IPCC "pre-industrial" era. [This period is better described as the Early Industrial Era and probably underestimates the true anomaly over the Pre-Industrial Era by about 0.2C] Graph of temperature anomalies has been updated at: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/science/...e-change/#data If the temperatures mentioned above are referred to those of the Roman Warm Period or the Medieval Warm Period rather than to those of the Little Ice Age (also known as the Pre-Industrial Era), they would be negative rather than positive. It's interesting also to note that the figures given above are in line with the excess temperatures of the Urban Heat Island effect, first measured in the early 1800s at 2.0 degF. -- Spike Denial denial denial. All the science is wrong and the Trumpian deniers know best. I honestly thought you and yours were past this crap. No-one takes you seriously any more - except for fellow deniers. Oh well. It's like with a number of things in the last few years, I just despair and have given up on any real hope for the human race. Keith (Southend) |
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On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 8:03:50 PM UTC, Keith Harris wrote:
On Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:38:12 UTC, wrote: On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 9:25:37 AM UTC, Spike wrote: On 17/12/2019 09:05, Graham P Davis wrote: Top five global temperature anomalies for November from GISS: 2015: +1.26C 2019: +1.22C 2016: +1.10C 2017: +1.08C 2013: +1.05C 12-month anomalies ending in the month of November: 2015-16: +1.24C 2018-19: +1.17C 2016-17: +1.12C 2014-15: +1.07C 2017-18: +1.05C Differences are wrt IPCC "pre-industrial" era. [This period is better described as the Early Industrial Era and probably underestimates the true anomaly over the Pre-Industrial Era by about 0.2C] Graph of temperature anomalies has been updated at: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/science/...e-change/#data If the temperatures mentioned above are referred to those of the Roman Warm Period or the Medieval Warm Period rather than to those of the Little Ice Age (also known as the Pre-Industrial Era), they would be negative rather than positive. It's interesting also to note that the figures given above are in line with the excess temperatures of the Urban Heat Island effect, first measured in the early 1800s at 2.0 degF. -- Spike Denial denial denial. All the science is wrong and the Trumpian deniers know best. I honestly thought you and yours were past this crap. No-one takes you seriously any more - except for fellow deniers. Oh well. It's like with a number of things in the last few years, I just despair and have given up on any real hope for the human race. Keith (Southend) All these deniers are old farts, Keith. There's no young ones. The future is safe in the hands of the young - once the get it! |
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![]() All these deniers are old farts, Keith. There's no young ones. The future is safe in the hands of the young - once the get it! I agree, though this might lead to some inter-generational angst in the short-term. I remember Spike from uk weatherworld. On the first point he makes he simply incorrect and on the second, he is insinuating something incorrect, that recent sharp warming is urban-expansion induced. All you have to do is take the temperature trend at a completely rural site. Whatever adaptation and mitigation steps we take in the next 20 years would have been far easier to do had we had the insight to do them over the last 20 years. Julian Molesey, Surrey. |
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On 22/12/2019 00:57, Jim wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 06:38:10 -0800 (PST) wrote: On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 9:25:37 AM UTC, Spike wrote: If the temperatures mentioned above are referred to those of the Roman Warm Period or the Medieval Warm Period rather than to those of the Little Ice Age (also known as the Pre-Industrial Era), they would be negative rather than positive. It's interesting also to note that the figures given above are in line with the excess temperatures of the Urban Heat Island effect, first measured in the early 1800s at 2.0 degF. Denial denial denial. All the science is wrong and the Trumpian deniers know best. I honestly thought you and yours were past this crap. No-one takes you seriously any more - except for fellow deniers. Oh well. Burt's a 75 year old man living in Torquay who, 15 years ago, retired from a lifetime of working for the MOD. He's a petty, spiteful old braggart, who recently started a thread entitled 'OT: Gretta Tuneborg sits on floor of train.' in uk.d-i-y : go and have a look if the thread title doesn't tell you all you need to know about him. He's previously posted under the name of 'Burton Bradstock', which is why I call him 'Burt'. Treat him in the manner he deserves to be treated and he'll quickly killfile you. HTH. Nice try - better luck next time. -- Spike In the Climate Change belief system, only the future is certain, but the past is constantly changing. - Based on a Soviet-era joke. |
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