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First signs of the possibility of a La Nina in the Boreal autumn, or winter, IMO.
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/produc...-fcsts-web.pdf |
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On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 10:00:00 AM UTC, N_Cook wrote:
On 10/03/2020 09:17, wrote: First signs of the possibility of a La Nina in the Boreal autumn, or winter, IMO. https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/produc...-fcsts-web.pdf So the longest protracted neutral ENSO for 60 years https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ONI_v5.php I'm waiting to see if the ENSO oscillation has "simply" stopped oscillating. With the SST hot "blob" east of New Zealand being in anti-phase lock-step with El Nino sea-area 3.4, locking ENSO out of proceeding to the El Nino state , or Nina for that matter. -- Monthly public talks on science topics, Hampshire , England http://diverse.4mg.com/scicaf.htm I very much doubt it has, Noman, but time will, of course, tell. |
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On 10/03/2020 11:02, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 10:00:00 AM UTC, N_Cook wrote: On 10/03/2020 09:17, wrote: First signs of the possibility of a La Nina in the Boreal autumn, or winter, IMO. https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/produc...-fcsts-web.pdf So the longest protracted neutral ENSO for 60 years https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ONI_v5.php I'm waiting to see if the ENSO oscillation has "simply" stopped oscillating. With the SST hot "blob" east of New Zealand being in anti-phase lock-step with El Nino sea-area 3.4, locking ENSO out of proceeding to the El Nino state , or Nina for that matter. -- Monthly public talks on science topics, Hampshire , England http://diverse.4mg.com/scicaf.htm I very much doubt it has, Noman, but time will, of course, tell. "Expect the unexpected" was what an oceanography professor told me in the early days of reference to climate change. At the time they'd just detected that the deep cold water return component of the North Atlantic AMOC had stopped/diverted? for a few weeks. -- Monthly public talks on science topics, Hampshire , England http://diverse.4mg.com/scicaf.htm |
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On 10/03/2020 09:17, wrote:
First signs of the possibility of a La Nina in the Boreal autumn, or winter, IMO. https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/produc...-fcsts-web.pdf But the CFS.v2 forecast in that pdf is predicting an El Nino. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ “Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, my side, and the truth.” [Ambassador Kosh] Posted via Mozilla Thunderbird on openSUSE Tumbleweed. |
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On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 11:33:06 AM UTC, N_Cook wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:02, wrote: On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 10:00:00 AM UTC, N_Cook wrote: On 10/03/2020 09:17, wrote: First signs of the possibility of a La Nina in the Boreal autumn, or winter, IMO. https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/produc...-fcsts-web.pdf So the longest protracted neutral ENSO for 60 years https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ONI_v5.php I'm waiting to see if the ENSO oscillation has "simply" stopped oscillating. With the SST hot "blob" east of New Zealand being in anti-phase lock-step with El Nino sea-area 3.4, locking ENSO out of proceeding to the El Nino state , or Nina for that matter. -- Monthly public talks on science topics, Hampshire , England http://diverse.4mg.com/scicaf.htm I very much doubt it has, Noman, but time will, of course, tell. "Expect the unexpected" was what an oceanography professor told me in the early days of reference to climate change. At the time they'd just detected that the deep cold water return component of the North Atlantic AMOC had stopped/diverted? for a few weeks. -- Monthly public talks on science topics, Hampshire , England http://diverse.4mg.com/scicaf.htm The real Kraken may be waking! |
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On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 11:58:17 AM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 10/03/2020 09:17, wrote: First signs of the possibility of a La Nina in the Boreal autumn, or winter, IMO. https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/produc...-fcsts-web.pdf But the CFS.v2 forecast in that pdf is predicting an El Nino. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ “Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, my side, and the truth.” [Ambassador Kosh] Posted via Mozilla Thunderbird on openSUSE Tumbleweed. It predicts ENSO neutral throughout, with variations during the period. it never escapes -0.5 - +0.5. I watch the changes from week to week and the probabilities, on the bar graph. Distinct tick up in the probability of La Nina this week - TBF, nothing but ENSO neutral showing, just yet. but these changes always start somewhere. We'll see. |
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On 10/03/2020 13:04, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 11:58:17 AM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote: On 10/03/2020 09:17, wrote: First signs of the possibility of a La Nina in the Boreal autumn, or winter, IMO. https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/produc...-fcsts-web.pdf But the CFS.v2 forecast in that pdf is predicting an El Nino. It predicts ENSO neutral throughout, with variations during the period. it never escapes -0.5 - +0.5. I watch the changes from week to week and the probabilities, on the bar graph. Distinct tick up in the probability of La Nina this week - TBF, nothing but ENSO neutral showing, just yet. but these changes always start somewhere. We'll see. The particular prediction to which I was referring is on page 25 and shows the anomalies dropping below -1.0 from ASO. However, I've also been watching this product for a long time and suspect that rolling a die would work just as well. :-) -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ “Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, my side, and the truth.” [Ambassador Kosh] Posted via Mozilla Thunderbird on openSUSE Tumbleweed. |
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On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 2:21:35 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 10/03/2020 13:04, wrote: On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 11:58:17 AM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote: On 10/03/2020 09:17, wrote: First signs of the possibility of a La Nina in the Boreal autumn, or winter, IMO. https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/produc...-fcsts-web.pdf But the CFS.v2 forecast in that pdf is predicting an El Nino. It predicts ENSO neutral throughout, with variations during the period. it never escapes -0.5 - +0.5. I watch the changes from week to week and the probabilities, on the bar graph. Distinct tick up in the probability of La Nina this week - TBF, nothing but ENSO neutral showing, just yet. but these changes always start somewhere. We'll see. The particular prediction to which I was referring is on page 25 and shows the anomalies dropping below -1.0 from ASO. However, I've also been watching this product for a long time and suspect that rolling a die would work just as well. :-) -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ “Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, my side, and the truth.” [Ambassador Kosh] Posted via Mozilla Thunderbird on openSUSE Tumbleweed. A fairly strong La Nina now very likely through the boreal autumn and winter. Should drop global temperatures. It'll be very interesting to see by how much. |
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On 28/09/2020 15:10, Paul from Dawlish wrote:
A fairly strong La Nina now very likely through the boreal autumn and winter. Should drop global temperatures. It'll be very interesting to see by how much. Could be just a blip , but consistently over the last few days, more yellow , less blue in "El Nino" sea-area 3.4 about the Pacific equator, La Nina return fading already? -- Global sea level rise to 2100 from curve-fitted existing altimetry data http://diverse.4mg.com/slr.htm |
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