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Very wet in the western part of the Med and Southern Italy; according to the
Hirlam model. This all due to the high sst.
It's analogue to the heavy weather that followed the extreme high sst of
summer 1995.

http://www.knmi.nl/voorl/nieuws/imag...ting171003.png

What about Greece??


Wijke



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Very wet in the western part of the Med and Southern Italy; according to

the
Hirlam model. This all due to the high sst.
It's analogue to the heavy weather that followed the extreme high sst of
summer 1995.

http://www.knmi.nl/voorl/nieuws/imag...ting171003.png

What about Greece??


Hi Wijke.

It's the fourth totally overcast day in a row here, with low cloudiness and
sick drizzle and light rain intervals. Things are more severe in the west
and the north of the country, where rain is very intense and much more
persisting. It is also snowing on the northern highlands above 1800 m (ca
5900 ft), while some lowland areas of northwestern Greece didn't get warmer
than +6C yesterday (Kozani). 150 mm of rain were recorded at Ioannina from
Wednesday to Thursday, while Kerkira (Corfu) has recorded 115 mm of rain
since October 15th (trees were uprooted at the Alepou area there early this
morning because of the high winds). Thrace, in the northeast, has been
reporting thick fog during the last day, while only closed type ships are
allowed in the northern Ionian sea. The south and far east of the country
has been significantly drier and warmer under mostly clear skies.
Things are due to change, though, as we're going to be at the 'other' side
of the continental low, thus getting southerlies that should bring
unseasonably warm -even hot- weather. Temperatures could exceed +30C over
northern Crete due to the local Foehn effect.

Yannis, SE Athens
+21.0C, RH 76%, drizzle


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"Yannis" schreef in bericht
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It's the fourth totally overcast day in a row here, with low cloudiness

and
sick drizzle and light rain intervals. Things are more severe in the west
and the north of the country, where rain is very intense and much more
persisting. It is also snowing on the northern highlands above 1800 m (ca
5900 ft), while some lowland areas of northwestern Greece didn't get

warmer
than +6C yesterday (Kozani). 150 mm of rain were recorded at Ioannina from
Wednesday to Thursday, while Kerkira (Corfu) has recorded 115 mm of rain
since October 15th (trees were uprooted at the Alepou area there early

this
morning because of the high winds). Thrace, in the northeast, has been
reporting thick fog during the last day, while only closed type ships are
allowed in the northern Ionian sea. The south and far east of the country
has been significantly drier and warmer under mostly clear skies.



Thanks for your comments, Yannis. The combination of high sst and
unstability obviously does the trick.
The sst around Greece don't differ much of the rest of the Med; according to
this site:
http://forecast.uoa.gr/LINKS/SKIRON/sst/000.gif. and to combine:
http://www.knmi.nl/voorl/weer/hirlam/AL1912.gif.


Things are due to change, though, as we're going to be at the 'other' side
of the continental low, thus getting southerlies that should bring
unseasonably warm -even hot- weather. Temperatures could exceed +30C over
northern Crete due to the local Foehn effect.


Hmm -- these things should be arranged better :-). When you compare the
current situation with another cold plunge event -- december 31 1978. A huge
depot of cold in the far north; high pressure over Greenland and Scandinavia
and a low over Holland; far more north than its now:-). Not much triggering
needed to get a cold plunge down over NW Europe. And Greece had a far more
comfortable westerly flow :-)).


Yannis, SE Athens
+21.0C, RH 76%, drizzle


Yargghh -- this sounds like uncomfortable British sticky summerweather to
me!

Wijke


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This also adds fuel to the cold winter scenario, with the high SST's
in the Med, the occurance of cyclogenis's is more likely down their
with high pressure blocking to the north. Of course a Bartlett High
could fall into this category, although these may be a little further
south.

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"Keith (Southend)" schreef in bericht
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This also adds fuel to the cold winter scenario, with the high SST's
in the Med, the occurance of cyclogenis's is more likely down their
with high pressure blocking to the north. Of course a Bartlett High
could fall into this category, although these may be a little further
south.


Well, Keith I'll sign for that winter :-)). Starting actually third of
december with some light night frost; snow on Boxing Day; followed by
moderate to heavy frost during the last week of December and the first days
of January. Then some thaw -- jan 12 10.1 C (!) -- but again a frosty period
from jan 17th -- until jan 25 severe night frost; and light to moderate
during the day :-)). Period of ice ended unfortunately February 10 th 1996.

Can remember my son's first skating tour -- 80 km; he was eleven years old
and insisted to come with me :-).
Half dead afterwards; but very very proud of his medal.

Wijke
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....tell me about it I've just come back from the wettest week for over 7
months at Alicante

Trevor



"Wijke" wrote in message
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Very wet in the western part of the Med and Southern Italy; according to

the
Hirlam model. This all due to the high sst.
It's analogue to the heavy weather that followed the extreme high sst of
summer 1995.

http://www.knmi.nl/voorl/nieuws/imag...ting171003.png

What about Greece??


Wijke




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In uk.sci.weather on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 at 15:03:25, Wijke wrote :
Very wet in the western part of the Med and Southern Italy; according to the
Hirlam model.


So we know who's to blame for stealing our rain then...
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