Why does the MetO, as it has for some time, show no observations for Scilly, whilst other sites quite happily show it.

E.g. https://www.xcweather.co.uk/

The observations seem quite reasonable to me, they've certainly been more questionable at times.

Fantastic weather for a swim today at 14:00. Around 22C, high humidity, the earlier F2-3 ESE wind died and became a very gentle (F1-2) WNW, as it often does during the afternoon in these type of conditions. A very local effect associated with the later warming of the north coast (at least that's my theory). A pool of warm water off the Battery Rocks recorded as 21C!! The highest this year. Quite a swell though, a bit of timing required going up and down the steps into the sea.

SST 17C out at the Penzance buoy, so a rather fortuitous warm pool where the sun warmed surface water had piles up between the prom & the Jubilee pool..

Graham
Penzance

On 14/09/2020 15:53, Graham Easterling wrote:
Why does the MetO, as it has for some time, show no observations for Scilly, whilst other sites quite happily show it.

E.g. https://www.xcweather.co.uk/

The observations seem quite reasonable to me, they've certainly been more questionable at times.

Fantastic weather for a swim today at 14:00. Around 22C, high humidity, the earlier F2-3 ESE wind died and became a very gentle (F1-2) WNW, as it often does during the afternoon in these type of conditions. A very local effect associated with the later warming of the north coast (at least that's my theory). A pool of warm water off the Battery Rocks recorded as 21C!! The highest this year. Quite a swell though, a bit of timing required going up and down the steps into the sea.

SST 17C out at the Penzance buoy, so a rather fortuitous warm pool where the sun warmed surface water had piles up between the prom & the Jubilee pool.

Graham
Penzance

Because there's no SYNOP only a METAR. And if I remember correctly,
METARs are only supposed to be used for aviation purposes. If this is
the case (has this changed Freddie?) then the MetO can't be seen to be
breaking the rules, whereas XC Weather et al are less constrained.

On Monday, 14 September 2020 at 17:37:46 UTC+1, Metman2012 wrote:
On 14/09/2020 15:53, Graham Easterling wrote:
Why does the MetO, as it has for some time, show no observations for Scilly, whilst other sites quite happily show it.

E.g. https://www.xcweather.co.uk/

The observations seem quite reasonable to me, they've certainly been more questionable at times.

Fantastic weather for a swim today at 14:00. Around 22C, high humidity, the earlier F2-3 ESE wind died and became a very gentle (F1-2) WNW, as it often does during the afternoon in these type of conditions. A very local effect associated with the later warming of the north coast (at least that's my theory). A pool of warm water off the Battery Rocks recorded as 21C!! The highest this year. Quite a swell though, a bit of timing required going up and down the steps into the sea.

SST 17C out at the Penzance buoy, so a rather fortuitous warm pool where the sun warmed surface water had piles up between the prom & the Jubilee pool.

Graham
Penzance

Because there's no SYNOP only a METAR. And if I remember correctly,
METARs are only supposed to be used for aviation purposes. If this is
the case (has this changed Freddie?) then the MetO can't be seen to be
breaking the rules, whereas XC Weather et al are less constrained.
There used to be a SYNOP on Scilly - index 03803. I didn't realise it had stopped reporting until I checked just now. I know there were some covid restrictions on engineering staff getting to some sites, perhaps that has been the case here, and it is waiting to be repaired.
METARs are received from Scilly (EGHE) but are only used for Aviation as Metman2012 says. I don't think they are 24/7 anyway, so even if they were used it would be difficult to integrate into a 24/7 product.

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Freddie
Alcaston
Shropshire
148m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
Stats for the month so far: https://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/st...cs/latest.xlsx

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 6:14:23 PM UTC+1, Freddie wrote:
On Monday, 14 September 2020 at 17:37:46 UTC+1, Metman2012 wrote:
On 14/09/2020 15:53, Graham Easterling wrote:
Why does the MetO, as it has for some time, show no observations for Scilly, whilst other sites quite happily show it.

E.g. https://www.xcweather.co.uk/

The observations seem quite reasonable to me, they've certainly been more questionable at times.

Fantastic weather for a swim today at 14:00. Around 22C, high humidity, the earlier F2-3 ESE wind died and became a very gentle (F1-2) WNW, as it often does during the afternoon in these type of conditions. A very local effect associated with the later warming of the north coast (at least that's my theory). A pool of warm water off the Battery Rocks recorded as 21C!! The highest this year. Quite a swell though, a bit of timing required going up and down the steps into the sea.

SST 17C out at the Penzance buoy, so a rather fortuitous warm pool where the sun warmed surface water had piles up between the prom & the Jubilee pool.

Graham
Penzance

Because there's no SYNOP only a METAR. And if I remember correctly,
METARs are only supposed to be used for aviation purposes. If this is
the case (has this changed Freddie?) then the MetO can't be seen to be
breaking the rules, whereas XC Weather et al are less constrained.
There used to be a SYNOP on Scilly - index 03803. I didn't realise it had stopped reporting until I checked just now. I know there were some covid restrictions on engineering staff getting to some sites, perhaps that has been the case here, and it is waiting to be repaired.
METARs are received from Scilly (EGHE) but are only used for Aviation as Metman2012 says. I don't think they are 24/7 anyway, so even if they were used it would be difficult to integrate into a 24/7 product.

--
Freddie
Alcaston
Shropshire
148m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
Stats for the month so far: https://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/st...cs/latest.xlsx

Thanks for the replies, that all makes sense.

As there's never been a case of COVID on Scilly, I would have thought it a particularly safe place for an engineer to go! I know there are special flights from Lands End for essential staff so they don't even have to mix with visitors.

Graham
Penzance

On 14/09/2020 20:19, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 6:14:23 PM UTC+1, Freddie wrote:
On Monday, 14 September 2020 at 17:37:46 UTC+1, Metman2012 wrote:
On 14/09/2020 15:53, Graham Easterling wrote:
Why does the MetO, as it has for some time, show no observations for Scilly, whilst other sites quite happily show it.

E.g. https://www.xcweather.co.uk/

The observations seem quite reasonable to me, they've certainly been more questionable at times.

Fantastic weather for a swim today at 14:00. Around 22C, high humidity, the earlier F2-3 ESE wind died and became a very gentle (F1-2) WNW, as it often does during the afternoon in these type of conditions. A very local effect associated with the later warming of the north coast (at least that's my theory). A pool of warm water off the Battery Rocks recorded as 21C!! The highest this year. Quite a swell though, a bit of timing required going up and down the steps into the sea.

SST 17C out at the Penzance buoy, so a rather fortuitous warm pool where the sun warmed surface water had piles up between the prom & the Jubilee pool.

Graham
Penzance

Because there's no SYNOP only a METAR. And if I remember correctly,
METARs are only supposed to be used for aviation purposes. If this is
the case (has this changed Freddie?) then the MetO can't be seen to be
breaking the rules, whereas XC Weather et al are less constrained.
There used to be a SYNOP on Scilly - index 03803. I didn't realise it had stopped reporting until I checked just now. I know there were some covid restrictions on engineering staff getting to some sites, perhaps that has been the case here, and it is waiting to be repaired.
METARs are received from Scilly (EGHE) but are only used for Aviation as Metman2012 says. I don't think they are 24/7 anyway, so even if they were used it would be difficult to integrate into a 24/7 product.

--
Freddie
Alcaston
Shropshire
148m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
Stats for the month so far: https://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/st...cs/latest.xlsx

Thanks for the replies, that all makes sense.

As there's never been a case of COVID on Scilly, I would have thought it a particularly safe place for an engineer to go! I know there are special flights from Lands End for essential staff so they don't even have to mix with visitors.

Graham
Penzance


Currently Benson only has a full Synop when there's a forecaster, mainly
during the day and evening, so a lot of the time there's no viz, weather
or cloud reported. Indeed, it was missing altogether for a while. But I
don't know why no one's going to it (or Scilly) and I didn't get a reply
to my enquiry why nothing had been done to rectify this. Perhaps I
should ask again , citing FOI!