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35 cm of snow already accumulated since snowfalls started late last night in
Florina, 23 cm in Kastoria (with part of the lake being white) and still
snowing heavily with visibility restricted to 100 m in both towns.
There is lying snow in various areas of northern and central Greece as well,
like Karditsa (110 m amsl) and the plains outside Thessaloniki (altitude 50
m amsl).

Yannis, SE Athens
+10.6C, closer to the low's centre, just rain here



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Hi Yannis,

We often hear from you regarding snowfall in Greece.In the event of
global warming etc, which seems to have reduced the winters in the
south of the uk to a few frosts, is the frequency of snowfall in
Greece greater or lesser than the long term average? Another words are
these winter snowfalls normal or more exceptional nowadays?

The reson I ask is along Philip Eden's findings with regards to the UK
experiencing more predominently south and southwest winds in the
winter months, hence the lack of cold weather here.

Would be interested in your thoughts?

Keith (Southend)

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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:15:34 +0200, "Yannis"
wrote:

35 cm of snow already accumulated since snowfalls started late last night in
Florina, 23 cm in Kastoria (with part of the lake being white) and still
snowing heavily with visibility restricted to 100 m in both towns.
There is lying snow in various areas of northern and central Greece as well,
like Karditsa (110 m amsl) and the plains outside Thessaloniki (altitude 50
m amsl).

Yannis, SE Athens
+10.6C, closer to the low's centre, just rain here


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35 cm of snow already accumulated since snowfalls started late last night

in
Florina, 23 cm in Kastoria (with part of the lake being white) and still
snowing heavily with visibility restricted to 100 m in both towns.
There is lying snow in various areas of northern and central Greece as

well,
like Karditsa (110 m amsl) and the plains outside Thessaloniki (altitude

50
m amsl).

Yannis, SE Athens
+10.6C, closer to the low's centre, just rain here



Hi Yannis would it be possible to put the country/area
in the post subject, because it always seems
like your posting from within the uk.

I thought u was talking about northwest uk


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Hi Yannis would it be possible to put the country/area
in the post subject, because it always seems
like your posting from within the uk.

I thought u was talking about northwest uk


Neil, you're a classic example of irrational wishful thinking :-))). Its
obvious Yannis talks about Greece, really see no reason for him to change.
Oh well, maybe you'd like to label the foreigners....

Wijke
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LOL,

It reminds me of the old Peter Ustinoff, (excuse spelling), line in an
old film, "I'm not foreign, I'm Bristish". Although I beleive he had
Russian origins himself.!

As for Yannis, please keep up the posts, always interesting, I wish we
had some similar contributors from other parts of Europe with there
own National knowledge and data sets. Also thanks to Wijke. I guess
the country name on the Subject line would have it's merits as at
times with so many posts it's easy to skip through and miss the point.

Keith (Southend)

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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:47:39 +0100, "Wijke"
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Hi Yannis would it be possible to put the country/area
in the post subject, because it always seems
like your posting from within the uk.

I thought u was talking about northwest uk


Neil, you're a classic example of irrational wishful thinking :-))). Its
obvious Yannis talks about Greece, really see no reason for him to change.
Oh well, maybe you'd like to label the foreigners....

Wijke
The Netherlands




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"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
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| As for Yannis, please keep up the posts, always interesting, I wish we
| had some similar contributors from other parts of Europe with there
| own National knowledge and data sets. Also thanks to Wijke. I guess
| the country name on the Subject line would have it's merits as at
| times with so many posts it's easy to skip through and miss the point.
|
| Keith (Southend)
|

Not forgetting that Yannis' and Wijke's first languages are not English.
Cut can you tell ?

Joe



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"Yannis" wrote in message
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35 cm of snow already accumulated since snowfalls started late last

night
in
Florina, 23 cm in Kastoria (with part of the lake being white) and still
snowing heavily with visibility restricted to 100 m in both towns.
There is lying snow in various areas of northern and central Greece as

well,
like Karditsa (110 m amsl) and the plains outside Thessaloniki (altitude

50
m amsl).

Yannis, SE Athens
+10.6C, closer to the low's centre, just rain here



Hi Yannis would it be possible to put the country/area
in the post subject, because it always seems
like your posting from within the uk.

I thought u was talking about northwest uk


Read the post, or was that too hard for you?

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Hull; 3m ASL
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Read the post, or was that too hard for you?

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Well, so if I did? Throwing in an attempted insult in your reply wasn't
necessary or even clever.

If you can't say anything good about someone, say nothing.
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Rob Overfield
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"nguk.." wrote in message
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Read the post, or was that too hard for you?

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"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
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Hi Yannis,

We often hear from you regarding snowfall in Greece.In the event of
global warming etc, which seems to have reduced the winters in the
south of the uk to a few frosts, is the frequency of snowfall in
Greece greater or lesser than the long term average?


Thanks for the question, Keith. One often hears locals from many parts of
the country (Greece, that is), moan that "there are no real winters anymore"
and that "the cold weather we're experiencing is nothing compared to the
good ol' times". I heard people from northwestern Greece say that winter
only arrived during the ending week, as they got half a metre of snow
accumulations overnight, which they were used to get more often. I think
that the number of snowfalls has been unchanged (on average), but
expectionally long snowy periods are less frequent -but present- in those
areas of Greece that tend to receive the most snow (western Macedonia,
"queen of snow" in Greece, eastern Macedonia, western Thessaly, central
continental Greece, central Peloponnese and mountainous Crete).
Greater Athens and Attica in general, for which I can speak from personal
experience, is characterised by a greater variance when it comes to the
frequency of snowfalls from year to year. The 90s have been quite poor, with
the exception of December 1991 - March 1992, while the 80s and the current
decade have been quite good so far.

In other words are these winter snowfalls normal or more exceptional

nowadays?

They're normal for these areas of Greece that it is -still- snowing and
people have been expecting them. If we got these accumulations of snow
overnight in the centre of Athens, however, it would have caused chaos :-)
(Athens is pretty much like the SE of England, in terms of journalists
attention/exaggeration and people's unpreparedness).

The reason I ask is along Philip Eden's findings with regards to the UK
experiencing more predominently south and southwest winds in the
winter months, hence the lack of cold weather here.


There are "bad" (mild) winters here too -ofcourse- like the 2000-2001 one.

Would be interested in your thoughts?


I hope I've helped answer your questions. 65.8 mm of rain during the last 9
hours, maximum rainfall intensity 62.5 mm/h at 0025.

Yannis, SE Athens
+5.1C, RH 90%, SLP 1000.6 hPa, +RA




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