In article ,
Tx2 writes:

July ... wet and windy .... are we going to get any sort of Summer in
the UK this year, especially where i live, East Sussex?

Have you forgotten the first two to three weeks of June already?
--
John Hall
"If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts;
but if he will be content to begin with doubts,
he shall end in certainties." Francis Bacon (1561-1626)

snip I was abroad, in a place where the summer lasts a season

Couldn't have been Spain - I went there for a week in April and it was
cloudy and cool every day and my daughter's in Barcelona now and it's 20C
and cloudy!!

Dave. S.Essex

John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Tx2 writes:

July ... wet and windy .... are we going to get any sort of Summer in
the UK this year, especially where i live, East Sussex?


Have you forgotten the first two to three weeks of June already?

The poster was refering to Summer, the first two to three weeks of June
are in Spring.

John

"John Smith" wrote in message
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John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Tx2 writes:

July ... wet and windy .... are we going to get any sort of Summer
in
the UK this year, especially where i live, East Sussex?


Have you forgotten the first two to three weeks of June already?

The poster was refering to Summer, the first two to three weeks of
June
are in Spring.

.... whilst I have some sympathy for those thoughts, in fact, for
meteorological / climatological 'accounting' purposes, the months June,
July and August are regarded as the 'summer' months. In fact, when using
the tables of averages (i.e. above normal, below normal etc.), 'summer'
runs from mid-May to mid-September.

Martin.

Have you forgotten the first two to three weeks of June already?

The poster was refering to Summer, the first two to three weeks of June
are in Spring.

John,

Having made the same point about the fine, very warm weather of much of June
myself, I must point out that climatologically, June is always classed as a
summer month, each season consisting of three complete calendar months. Imagine
how difficult it would be to assemble seasonal climatic data if we had to start
within a month and work with daily data. Until about 30 years ago, it was quite
common for relatively settled weather up to June to break down to a more
unsettled pattern in July and August (sometimes known as the European monsoon,
as westerly winds return). So the association of a change from spring to summer
(whenever you wish that to be!) to settle the weather down is not something
that our forebears would have recognised in most years. It could however be a
consequence of the influence of global warming on the atmospheric circulation,
being present in the climate model scenarios of mid to late C21st.

Julian Mayes, Molesey, Surrey / Univ. of Surrey Roehampton.

Well said Martin.
It is so tiring when people think of equinox and solstice as a 'beginning'
when of course they are the mid-point. Historically, the May Day
celebration served the purpose of welcoming in the summer.

Gianna


"Martin Rowley" wrote in message
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Tx2 writes:

July ... wet and windy .... are we going to get any sort of Summer
in
the UK this year, especially where i live, East Sussex?


Have you forgotten the first two to three weeks of June already?

The poster was refering to Summer, the first two to three weeks of
June
are in Spring.

... whilst I have some sympathy for those thoughts, in fact, for
meteorological / climatological 'accounting' purposes, the months June,
July and August are regarded as the 'summer' months. In fact, when using
the tables of averages (i.e. above normal, below normal etc.), 'summer'
runs from mid-May to mid-September.

Martin.

"Gianna Stefani" wrote in message
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Well said Martin.
It is so tiring when people think of equinox and solstice as a 'beginning'
when of course they are the mid-point. Historically, the May Day
celebration served the purpose of welcoming in the summer.


I try not to think of equinoxes and solstices as having anything
to do with the weather at all.

They are astronomical rather than meteorological phenomena.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk

My point exactly ... the seasons are a function of astronomical fact .....
the weather is altogether different and often may not oblige us by being
'summery' in the summer.

Gianna

"Col" wrote in message
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"Gianna Stefani" wrote in message
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Well said Martin.
It is so tiring when people think of equinox and solstice as a
'beginning'
when of course they are the mid-point. Historically, the May Day
celebration served the purpose of welcoming in the summer.


I try not to think of equinoxes and solstices as having anything
to do with the weather at all.

They are astronomical rather than meteorological phenomena.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk