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"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
July mean temp difference from average ( to nearest 0.5 degC):
Saskatchewan: Regina -7degC, Saskatoon -7 degC, Kindersley -3.5
degC
Manitoba: Brandon -5 degC, Winnipeg -4 degC, Churchill -4 degC
Alberta: Calgary -1.5 degC, Edmonton -1.5 degC, Banff +2.5 degC
Br Columbia: Kamloops +5 degC, Prince George +3.5 degC, Vancouver
+2 degC, Victoria +2 degC, Prince Rupert +2.5 degC.
Ontario: Thunder Bay +0.5degC, Toronto +0.5 degC, Ottawa +1.5 degC
Quebec: Montreal +0.5 degC, Quebec +2.5 degC, Gaspé +3 degC

I'll happily do the same with the August figures when I have them,
but
I'm sure they'll show a similar variety. For July, at any rate, it
was
certainly very cold in Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Nowhere else,
though.

Philip Eden


..... and indeed, the west coast of BC along with Washington and Oregon
had unusually warm weather in the middle two weeks of the month,
Portland Oregon reaching 103C on about the 23rd. In that period at
least (and into early August, judging by weather reports I saw) the
region seemed to be having a UK 2003 style summer.

On the other hand, from forecasts I do remember regions such as
Ontario and Quebec, along with the NE USA, having very changeable
weather with frequent thundery cold fronts alternating with transient
(2-3 day) highs, but then again temps were fairly high and in any case
that sort of weather that may be normal for that part of the world?

Nick

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July mean temp difference from average ( to nearest 0.5 degC):
Saskatchewan: Regina -7degC, Saskatoon -7 degC, Kindersley -3.5
degC
Manitoba: Brandon -5 degC, Winnipeg -4 degC, Churchill -4 degC
Alberta: Calgary -1.5 degC, Edmonton -1.5 degC, Banff +2.5 degC
Br Columbia: Kamloops +5 degC, Prince George +3.5 degC, Vancouver
+2 degC, Victoria +2 degC, Prince Rupert +2.5 degC.
Ontario: Thunder Bay +0.5degC, Toronto +0.5 degC, Ottawa +1.5 degC
Quebec: Montreal +0.5 degC, Quebec +2.5 degC, Gaspé +3 degC


my other post... oops... Portland 103F!!!

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Nick Whitelegg writes:
.... and indeed, the west coast of BC along with Washington and Oregon
had unusually warm weather in the middle two weeks of the month,
Portland Oregon reaching 103C on about the 23rd.


Unusually warm would seem to be an understatement! Presumably 103F was
intended.
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"Lawrence" wrote in message ...
Blair. Those temps you quote, not satellite right. Have you a link?




Surface temperatures indeed:

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/GLB.Ts.txt

Also looked up the Calgary normals on the MSC site
(www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca) - Calgary has a mean of 0.4 days per
month in August with a maximum under 10 (or, looking at it another
way, one every 2.5 years on average).

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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 25 Aug 2004 at 11:40:02, Nick Whitelegg wrote
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.... and indeed, the west coast of BC along with Washington and Oregon
had unusually warm weather in the middle two weeks of the month,
Portland Oregon reaching 103C on about the 23rd.

^^^^
I'm sure I won't be the first to comment on this, but that certainly
*is* unusually hot weather.
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Thanks Blair.
"Blair Trewin" wrote in message
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"Lawrence" wrote in message

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Blair. Those temps you quote, not satellite right. Have you a link?




Surface temperatures indeed:

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/GLB.Ts.txt

Also looked up the Calgary normals on the MSC site
(www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca) - Calgary has a mean of 0.4 days per
month in August with a maximum under 10 (or, looking at it another
way, one every 2.5 years on average).

Blair



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(Blair Trewin) wrote in message:

Also looked up the Calgary normals on the MSC site
(
www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca) - Calgary has a mean of 0.4 days per
month in August with a maximum under 10 (or, looking at it another
way, one every 2.5 years on average).

Blair


I take it this is because Calgary is (I think I'm right) at high
altitude? 9C for somewhere remote from a cold ocean in August
certainly does seem very low indeed.

Nick
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"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
July mean temp difference from average ( to nearest 0.5 degC):
Saskatchewan: Regina -7degC, Saskatoon -7 degC, Kindersley -3.5
degC
Manitoba: Brandon -5 degC, Winnipeg -4 degC, Churchill -4 degC
Alberta: Calgary -1.5 degC, Edmonton -1.5 degC, Banff +2.5 degC
Br Columbia: Kamloops +5 degC, Prince George +3.5 degC, Vancouver
+2 degC, Victoria +2 degC, Prince Rupert +2.5 degC.
Ontario: Thunder Bay +0.5degC, Toronto +0.5 degC, Ottawa +1.5 degC
Quebec: Montreal +0.5 degC, Quebec +2.5 degC, Gaspé +3 degC


my other post... oops... Portland 103F!!!

Nick


Comment from a friend living in Regina ...

"Based on the 30 year average, cooler than normal.... More
precipitation than
we have had in several summers. Am not a fan of the 'stinkin hot'
stuff...
fortunately, there was only a couple of weeks of that this year... The
big
thing out here right now is the risk of frost for the farm crops.
With the
moisture levels this year, the crops were looking mighty fine for a
change..
just needed some heat to ripen, dry to harvest and voila - perhaps
fewer
bankruptcies in the farming economy.... About a week and a half ago,
there
was a heavy frost overnight. Crops were damaged. More recently, we
have
been having rain. Until it dries up and warms up enough for the crops
to be
harvested, no way to tell for sure what the total impact of the frost
has
been."

Last two years have been very dry with fodder having to be imported
into the state for winter feed due to the dry weather.

Regards

Chris Gadsby


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