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Can't beleive what I just saw/heard on the BBC news. Basically
suggesting that the increased hurricane activity this year is due to warmer seas, hinting that global warming is behind this, showing a graph of the steady increase in sea temperatures. Also saying more hurricane are making landfall than ever before, maybe more notiveable because people have moved into hurricane locations. No mention of other factors like El Nino, shear (sorry Joe Public use them in the garden!) etc. I seem to remember the NHC (National Hurricane Centre) forecasted a more active season for this year last spring. Why does the media solve the case with just one shread of evidence in a far more complex subject. Bah. Perhaps the Met Office should refuse to speak to the media g Keith (Southend) ******************************** 'Weather Home & Abroad' http://www.southendweather.net ******************************** COL Station for Southend-on-Sea http://www.wunderground.com/weathers...p?ID=IESSEXSO1 ******************************** Reply to: kreh'at'southendweather'dot'net All mail scanned for virus's using Norton 2003 |
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The BBC is obsessed with Global Warming.
I am also fed up with listening to reports on the BBC of Ivan being the worst Hurricane to hit Jamaica for 50 years. Have they never heard of Hurricane Gilbert. ?? Gilbert was a strong CAT-4 when it hit and became a CAT 5 soon after. The island was devastated by Gilbert.(Gilbert went on to become the biggest and strongest hurricane observed in the western Hempisphere, and was a true Monster). The BBC these days is getting more and more on my nerves for innacurate reporting. "Keith (Southend)" wrote in message news ![]() Can't beleive what I just saw/heard on the BBC news. Basically suggesting that the increased hurricane activity this year is due to warmer seas, hinting that global warming is behind this, showing a graph of the steady increase in sea temperatures. Also saying more hurricane are making landfall than ever before, maybe more notiveable because people have moved into hurricane locations. No mention of other factors like El Nino, shear (sorry Joe Public use them in the garden!) etc. I seem to remember the NHC (National Hurricane Centre) forecasted a more active season for this year last spring. Why does the media solve the case with just one shread of evidence in a far more complex subject. Bah. Perhaps the Met Office should refuse to speak to the media g Keith (Southend) ******************************** 'Weather Home & Abroad' http://www.southendweather.net ******************************** COL Station for Southend-on-Sea http://www.wunderground.com/weathers...p?ID=IESSEXSO1 ******************************** Reply to: kreh'at'southendweather'dot'net All mail scanned for virus's using Norton 2003 |
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Keith
I gave up on the media years ago. I never buy a newspaper, never watch the news on any channel but just occasionally listen to the headlines on the hour using the radio and catch the 00:30 report/forecast on R4. They talk utter claptrap about the weather, the economy and just about anything else! My weather forecasts are obtained from the knowledgeable ones in here + my own interpretation of the near and long term charts from 'Wetterzentrale' + my own interpretation of the developments based on what is actually happening at the time. Yes, the NHC did forecast an active season this year long before it started. If a new El Nino is beginning now, then presumably it will be a much quieter hurricane season next year, lets just see. -- Pete Please take my dog out twice to e-mail --------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed above are entirely those of the writer and do not represent the views, policy or understanding of any other person or official body. --------------------------------------------------------------- "Keith (Southend)" wrote in message news ![]() Can't beleive what I just saw/heard on the BBC news. Basically suggesting that the increased hurricane activity this year is due to warmer seas, hinting that global warming is behind this, showing a graph of the steady increase in sea temperatures. Also saying more hurricane are making landfall than ever before, maybe more notiveable because people have moved into hurricane locations. No mention of other factors like El Nino, shear (sorry Joe Public use them in the garden!) etc. I seem to remember the NHC (National Hurricane Centre) forecasted a more active season for this year last spring. Why does the media solve the case with just one shread of evidence in a far more complex subject. Bah. Perhaps the Met Office should refuse to speak to the media g Keith (Southend) ******************************** 'Weather Home & Abroad' http://www.southendweather.net ******************************** COL Station for Southend-on-Sea http://www.wunderground.com/weathers...p?ID=IESSEXSO1 ******************************** Reply to: kreh'at'southendweather'dot'net All mail scanned for virus's using Norton 2003 |
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No Gilbert was only a cat 3 when it struck Jamaica. It became cat 5 as it
approached the Yucatan Peninsula. Ivan is, I think, on a par with Allen in 1980 which was a borderline cat 4/5 when it bypassed Jamaica. Adam "PJB" wrote in message ... The BBC is obsessed with Global Warming. I am also fed up with listening to reports on the BBC of Ivan being the worst Hurricane to hit Jamaica for 50 years. Have they never heard of Hurricane Gilbert. ?? Gilbert was a strong CAT-4 when it hit and became a CAT 5 soon after. The island was devastated by Gilbert.(Gilbert went on to become the biggest and strongest hurricane observed in the western Hempisphere, and was a true Monster). The BBC these days is getting more and more on my nerves for innacurate reporting. "Keith (Southend)" wrote in message news ![]() Can't beleive what I just saw/heard on the BBC news. Basically suggesting that the increased hurricane activity this year is due to warmer seas, hinting that global warming is behind this, showing a graph of the steady increase in sea temperatures. Also saying more hurricane are making landfall than ever before, maybe more notiveable because people have moved into hurricane locations. No mention of other factors like El Nino, shear (sorry Joe Public use them in the garden!) etc. I seem to remember the NHC (National Hurricane Centre) forecasted a more active season for this year last spring. Why does the media solve the case with just one shread of evidence in a far more complex subject. Bah. Perhaps the Met Office should refuse to speak to the media g Keith (Southend) ******************************** 'Weather Home & Abroad' http://www.southendweather.net ******************************** COL Station for Southend-on-Sea http://www.wunderground.com/weathers...p?ID=IESSEXSO1 ******************************** Reply to: kreh'at'southendweather'dot'net All mail scanned for virus's using Norton 2003 |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:21:55 +0100, "Keith (Southend)"
wrote: Can't beleive what I just saw/heard on the BBC news. Basically suggesting that the increased hurricane activity this year is due to warmer seas, hinting that global warming is behind this, showing a graph of the steady increase in sea temperatures. Also saying more hurricane are making landfall than ever before, maybe more notiveable because people have moved into hurricane locations. No mention of other factors like El Nino, shear (sorry Joe Public use them in the garden!) etc. I seem to remember the NHC (National Hurricane Centre) forecasted a more active season for this year last spring. Why does the media solve the case with just one shread of evidence in a far more complex subject. Bah. Perhaps the Met Office should refuse to speak to the media g Well we seem to have a divergence here between the BBC 1 news (presumably what you saw at 10pm) and what News 24 have been running all evening, including the midnight bulletin. Whilst there were some misleading comments (e.g. "when the sea temperature rises above [26.5C] the warm air triggers a cyclone", they may have been right in saying that sea temperatures in that area have risen over the last 4 years - albeit a ridiculously short period from which to draw any conclusions. Here we go, I thought. But I was placated when I heard this statement:"only now are scientists starting to see patterns - not because of global warming but because of natural changes instead (or in state)". They then ran an interview with a scientist from Hadley Centre, who alluded to the natural changes in sea temperature and currents in cycles lasting several decades. That gets them off the hook, for me! -- Dave |
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The media love hurricanes, dozens of VERY silly journalists rushing to
put themselves into the path of the most destructive elements, wrapped up in those weather proof kagools practically hanging of telephone poles in mid air while doing their live broadcasts. One of these days one of them will be swept away, never to be seen again. |
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Nobody in the media, apart from a few specialist writers, knows anything
whatsoever about meteorology, which obviously includes Global Warming. When they touch on another subject about which you may know something you find they're ignorant of that, too. In fact, I've come to the conclusion they don't know anything about anything other than concocting stories that will sell newspapers or keep people glued to the box. But I suppose the fluffy-brained have to something for a living. Tudor Hughes. |
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I stand corrected. Gilbert was a indeed strong Cat 3. However it cut made a
direct path through the Island. Allen was indeed a cat 5 as it approached Jamaica in 1980 and the storm just brushed past the northern most part of the Island. Thanks Paul "Adam Lea" wrote in message ... No Gilbert was only a cat 3 when it struck Jamaica. It became cat 5 as it approached the Yucatan Peninsula. Ivan is, I think, on a par with Allen in 1980 which was a borderline cat 4/5 when it bypassed Jamaica. Adam "PJB" wrote in message ... The BBC is obsessed with Global Warming. I am also fed up with listening to reports on the BBC of Ivan being the worst Hurricane to hit Jamaica for 50 years. Have they never heard of Hurricane Gilbert. ?? Gilbert was a strong CAT-4 when it hit and became a CAT 5 soon after. The island was devastated by Gilbert.(Gilbert went on to become the biggest and strongest hurricane observed in the western Hempisphere, and was a true Monster). The BBC these days is getting more and more on my nerves for innacurate reporting. "Keith (Southend)" wrote in message news ![]() Can't beleive what I just saw/heard on the BBC news. Basically suggesting that the increased hurricane activity this year is due to warmer seas, hinting that global warming is behind this, showing a graph of the steady increase in sea temperatures. Also saying more hurricane are making landfall than ever before, maybe more notiveable because people have moved into hurricane locations. No mention of other factors like El Nino, shear (sorry Joe Public use them in the garden!) etc. I seem to remember the NHC (National Hurricane Centre) forecasted a more active season for this year last spring. Why does the media solve the case with just one shread of evidence in a far more complex subject. Bah. Perhaps the Met Office should refuse to speak to the media g Keith (Southend) ******************************** 'Weather Home & Abroad' http://www.southendweather.net ******************************** COL Station for Southend-on-Sea http://www.wunderground.com/weathers...p?ID=IESSEXSO1 ******************************** Reply to: kreh'at'southendweather'dot'net All mail scanned for virus's using Norton 2003 |
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