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20/5/05

Just watched the 1330 national forecast right through. It has been quite windy
this morning here in the SW and I was wondering if it would die down this
afternoon (I know really but you see what I mean !).
Not one mention of wind throughout the entire forecast, the only clue was the
mention of blustery showers. Come on BBC don't be shy :-)
Then later we had David Braine he did show the paper aeroplanes and mentioned
gales tomorrow, but if he had not mentioned gales the paper aeroplanes would not
have indicated that. I consider this a very serious issue now if potential gales
either do not get mentioned or are not shown properly on a forecast.
How much did the BBC pay for this package? £1 million quid :-O I would have
thought that for that price we could have better graphics for wind than paper
aeroplanes.

Full marks to the Met Office presenters again though, keeping smiling.

Will.
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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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20/5/05

Just watched the 1330 national forecast right through. It has been quite
windy
this morning here in the SW and I was wondering if it would die down this
afternoon (I know really but you see what I mean !).
Not one mention of wind throughout the entire forecast, the only clue was
the
mention of blustery showers. Come on BBC don't be shy :-)
Then later we had David Braine he did show the paper aeroplanes and
mentioned
gales tomorrow, but if he had not mentioned gales the paper aeroplanes
would not
have indicated that. I consider this a very serious issue now if potential
gales
either do not get mentioned or are not shown properly on a forecast.
How much did the BBC pay for this package? £1 million quid :-O I would
have
thought that for that price we could have better graphics for wind than
paper
aeroplanes.

Full marks to the Met Office presenters again though, keeping smiling.

Will.
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Will,

The wind dropped quickly here following the trough which crossed us around
09:00 (and dropped 4mm rain in around 10 minutes).

Now just a moderate westerly breeze, good sunny spells, 17 degrees & rising,
so a very nice afternoon.
Still looks generally cloudy inland.

Graham

"Will Hand" wrote in message
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20/5/05

Just watched the 1330 national forecast right through. It has been quite
windy
this morning here in the SW and I was wondering if it would die down this
afternoon (I know really but you see what I mean !).
Not one mention of wind throughout the entire forecast, the only clue was
the
mention of blustery showers. Come on BBC don't be shy :-)
Then later we had David Braine he did show the paper aeroplanes and
mentioned
gales tomorrow, but if he had not mentioned gales the paper aeroplanes
would not
have indicated that. I consider this a very serious issue now if potential
gales
either do not get mentioned or are not shown properly on a forecast.
How much did the BBC pay for this package? £1 million quid :-O I would
have
thought that for that price we could have better graphics for wind than
paper
aeroplanes.

Full marks to the Met Office presenters again though, keeping smiling.

Will.
--

Will,

The wind dropped quickly here following the trough which crossed us around
09:00 (and dropped 4mm rain in around 10 minutes).

Now just a moderate westerly breeze, good sunny spells, 17 degrees & rising,
so a very nice afternoon.
Still looks generally cloudy inland.

Graham

"Will Hand" wrote in message
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20/5/05

Just watched the 1330 national forecast right through. It has been quite
windy
this morning here in the SW and I was wondering if it would die down this
afternoon (I know really but you see what I mean !).
Not one mention of wind throughout the entire forecast, the only clue was
the
mention of blustery showers. Come on BBC don't be shy :-)
Then later we had David Braine he did show the paper aeroplanes and
mentioned
gales tomorrow, but if he had not mentioned gales the paper aeroplanes
would not
have indicated that. I consider this a very serious issue now if potential
gales
either do not get mentioned or are not shown properly on a forecast.
How much did the BBC pay for this package? £1 million quid :-O I would
have
thought that for that price we could have better graphics for wind than
paper
aeroplanes.

Full marks to the Met Office presenters again though, keeping smiling.

Will.
--

Will,

The wind dropped quickly here following the trough which crossed us around
09:00 (and dropped 4mm rain in around 10 minutes).

Now just a moderate westerly breeze, good sunny spells, 17 degrees & rising,
so a very nice afternoon.
Still looks generally cloudy inland.

Graham

On Fri, 20 May 2005 13:50:51 +0100, "Will Hand"
wrote:

Then later we had David Braine he did show the paper aeroplanes and mentioned
gales tomorrow, but if he had not mentioned gales the paper aeroplanes would not
have indicated that. I consider this a very serious issue now if potential gales
either do not get mentioned or are not shown properly on a forecast.
How much did the BBC pay for this package? £1 million quid :-O I would have
thought that for that price we could have better graphics for wind than paper
aeroplanes.

And it's not just about gales: I've seen it suggested that winds are
somehow of little interest to Joe Public but I don't think that's
right. Looking outside now, here, the most noticeable thing is how
breezy it is. It's certainly windy enough to make you think twice
about taking a child out for a bike ride and there are many other
activities ("will the grass dry in time for a cut after the rain
stops?") where windspeed is at least as important as, say, amount of
sunshine.

Full marks to the Met Office presenters again though, keeping smiling.

Especially as they are probably still wrestling with the system
intricacies. For example, I'd be loathe to show the wind arrow
diagrams onscreen until I'd found a way to stop them looking silly -
which is how they look to me at the moment. Francis's wind arrows on
Sky News are about 10 times bigger and inspite of having only two or
three wind "streams" over the UK, they give much more useful
information, easy to absorb, than the BBC's wriggling tiddlers.

I'm looking for one or two small improvements every week now, as the
presenters learn how to handle what they, too, must see as problems to
be solved.

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Dave

On Fri, 20 May 2005 13:50:51 +0100, "Will Hand"
wrote:

Then later we had David Braine he did show the paper aeroplanes and mentioned
gales tomorrow, but if he had not mentioned gales the paper aeroplanes would not
have indicated that. I consider this a very serious issue now if potential gales
either do not get mentioned or are not shown properly on a forecast.
How much did the BBC pay for this package? £1 million quid :-O I would have
thought that for that price we could have better graphics for wind than paper
aeroplanes.

And it's not just about gales: I've seen it suggested that winds are
somehow of little interest to Joe Public but I don't think that's
right. Looking outside now, here, the most noticeable thing is how
breezy it is. It's certainly windy enough to make you think twice
about taking a child out for a bike ride and there are many other
activities ("will the grass dry in time for a cut after the rain
stops?") where windspeed is at least as important as, say, amount of
sunshine.

Full marks to the Met Office presenters again though, keeping smiling.

Especially as they are probably still wrestling with the system
intricacies. For example, I'd be loathe to show the wind arrow
diagrams onscreen until I'd found a way to stop them looking silly -
which is how they look to me at the moment. Francis's wind arrows on
Sky News are about 10 times bigger and inspite of having only two or
three wind "streams" over the UK, they give much more useful
information, easy to absorb, than the BBC's wriggling tiddlers.

I'm looking for one or two small improvements every week now, as the
presenters learn how to handle what they, too, must see as problems to
be solved.

--
Dave

On Fri, 20 May 2005 13:50:51 +0100, "Will Hand"
wrote:

Then later we had David Braine he did show the paper aeroplanes and mentioned
gales tomorrow, but if he had not mentioned gales the paper aeroplanes would not
have indicated that. I consider this a very serious issue now if potential gales
either do not get mentioned or are not shown properly on a forecast.
How much did the BBC pay for this package? £1 million quid :-O I would have
thought that for that price we could have better graphics for wind than paper
aeroplanes.

And it's not just about gales: I've seen it suggested that winds are
somehow of little interest to Joe Public but I don't think that's
right. Looking outside now, here, the most noticeable thing is how
breezy it is. It's certainly windy enough to make you think twice
about taking a child out for a bike ride and there are many other
activities ("will the grass dry in time for a cut after the rain
stops?") where windspeed is at least as important as, say, amount of
sunshine.

Full marks to the Met Office presenters again though, keeping smiling.

Especially as they are probably still wrestling with the system
intricacies. For example, I'd be loathe to show the wind arrow
diagrams onscreen until I'd found a way to stop them looking silly -
which is how they look to me at the moment. Francis's wind arrows on
Sky News are about 10 times bigger and inspite of having only two or
three wind "streams" over the UK, they give much more useful
information, easy to absorb, than the BBC's wriggling tiddlers.

I'm looking for one or two small improvements every week now, as the
presenters learn how to handle what they, too, must see as problems to
be solved.

--
Dave

"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message
And it's not just about gales: I've seen it suggested that winds are
somehow of little interest to Joe Public but I don't think that's
right. Looking outside now, here, the most noticeable thing is how
breezy it is. snip
For example, I'd be loathe to show the wind arrow
diagrams onscreen until I'd found a way to stop them looking silly -
which is how they look to me at the moment. Francis's wind arrows on
Sky News are about 10 times bigger and inspite of having only two or
three wind "streams" over the UK, they give much more useful
information, easy to absorb, than the BBC's wriggling tiddlers.

.... this was one of the facets I complained about in my submission to
the BBC; in fact, the *previous* wind-flow output was quite adequate and
gave a useful indication (coupled with voice-over) of the change in the
wind field during the forecast period.

Of all the aspects of the changes, I can't understand how this one has
slipped through; *if* it is based on NZ experience, I know for a fact
that they are just as interested in such data as we are - so I suspect
that someone made a decision based on little or no knowledge, and is now
desperately digging their heels in (if still in post) to deny us the
information.

Martin.


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"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message
And it's not just about gales: I've seen it suggested that winds are
somehow of little interest to Joe Public but I don't think that's
right. Looking outside now, here, the most noticeable thing is how
breezy it is. snip
For example, I'd be loathe to show the wind arrow
diagrams onscreen until I'd found a way to stop them looking silly -
which is how they look to me at the moment. Francis's wind arrows on
Sky News are about 10 times bigger and inspite of having only two or
three wind "streams" over the UK, they give much more useful
information, easy to absorb, than the BBC's wriggling tiddlers.

.... this was one of the facets I complained about in my submission to
the BBC; in fact, the *previous* wind-flow output was quite adequate and
gave a useful indication (coupled with voice-over) of the change in the
wind field during the forecast period.

Of all the aspects of the changes, I can't understand how this one has
slipped through; *if* it is based on NZ experience, I know for a fact
that they are just as interested in such data as we are - so I suspect
that someone made a decision based on little or no knowledge, and is now
desperately digging their heels in (if still in post) to deny us the
information.

Martin.


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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm

"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message
And it's not just about gales: I've seen it suggested that winds are
somehow of little interest to Joe Public but I don't think that's
right. Looking outside now, here, the most noticeable thing is how
breezy it is. snip
For example, I'd be loathe to show the wind arrow
diagrams onscreen until I'd found a way to stop them looking silly -
which is how they look to me at the moment. Francis's wind arrows on
Sky News are about 10 times bigger and inspite of having only two or
three wind "streams" over the UK, they give much more useful
information, easy to absorb, than the BBC's wriggling tiddlers.

.... this was one of the facets I complained about in my submission to
the BBC; in fact, the *previous* wind-flow output was quite adequate and
gave a useful indication (coupled with voice-over) of the change in the
wind field during the forecast period.

Of all the aspects of the changes, I can't understand how this one has
slipped through; *if* it is based on NZ experience, I know for a fact
that they are just as interested in such data as we are - so I suspect
that someone made a decision based on little or no knowledge, and is now
desperately digging their heels in (if still in post) to deny us the
information.

Martin.


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