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Hello All,
I'm confused over what Theta E is measuring. Does it measure the temperature of an airmass, or the temperature of a parcel of air that is rising? Joe Wolverhampton 175m asl |
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![]() "Joe Egginton" wrote in message ... Hello All, I'm confused over what Theta E is measuring. Does it measure the temperature of an airmass, or the temperature of a parcel of air that is rising? Joe Wolverhampton 175m asl T_e is the equivalent temperature. Effectively this the temperature that a parcel of moist air would achieve if it were lifted cooling at the saturated adiabatic lapse rate (SALR) until it is so cold that the vapour pressure is effectively zero and all water vapour is precipitated and then brought back down to the same level warming at the dry adiabatic lapse rate (DALR). For theta_e is potential equivalent temperature at a standard pressure level, usually 1000hPa, so assuming you began at a higher level than 1000hPa, you simply continue to warm the parcel at the DALR until you reach 1000hPa. The lapse rate of theta_e will tell you something about the stability of the atmosphere. Slightly simplistically, a decrease with height implies an unstable layer, an increase with height, a stable layer. Theta_e should be pretty much constant with height within a convective cloud. |
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Steve wrote:
"Joe Egginton" wrote in message ... Hello All, I'm confused over what Theta E is measuring. Does it measure the temperature of an airmass, or the temperature of a parcel of air that is rising? Joe Wolverhampton 175m asl T_e is the equivalent temperature. Effectively this the temperature that a parcel of moist air would achieve if it were lifted cooling at the saturated adiabatic lapse rate (SALR) until it is so cold that the vapour pressure is effectively zero and all water vapour is precipitated and then brought back down to the same level warming at the dry adiabatic lapse rate (DALR). For theta_e is potential equivalent temperature at a standard pressure level, usually 1000hPa, so assuming you began at a higher level than 1000hPa, you simply continue to warm the parcel at the DALR until you reach 1000hPa. The lapse rate of theta_e will tell you something about the stability of the atmosphere. Slightly simplistically, a decrease with height implies an unstable layer, an increase with height, a stable layer. Theta_e should be pretty much constant with height within a convective cloud. Thanks Steve, I've noticed in my studies that in an unstable atmosphere the Theta E temp decreases with height, while vica versa with a stable atmosphere. Though so far my artificial neural network hasn't learned the above, on the other hand, my Knowledge Based System works a treat with the rules of: ThetaE x mb ThetaE y mb = unstability ThetaE x mb ThetaE y mb = stability Joe Wolverhampton 175m asl |
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