Well if his December prediction bears fruit then something very seasonable
looks possible :-

http://www.climaprog.de/website0905005.htm

Regards

Sean B

"Mr Blowfish" wrote in message
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Well if his December prediction bears fruit then something very seasonable
looks possible :-

http://www.climaprog.de/website0905005.htm


But that could equally well mean that the Atlantic lows are not
quite as intense as normal. Or it *could* mean that a Greenland
high forms for part of the time.
I've never been sure exactly how to interpret these Roeder charts

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

I can't grab Roeders page tonite ,whats the secret Mr Blowfish ?

RonB
"Mr Blowfish" wrote in message
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Well if his December prediction bears fruit then something very seasonable
looks possible :-

http://www.climaprog.de/website0905005.htm

Regards

Sean B

"Col" wrote in message
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"Mr Blowfish" wrote in message
...
Well if his December prediction bears fruit then something very
seasonable
looks possible :-

http://www.climaprog.de/website0905005.htm


But that could equally well mean that the Atlantic lows are not
quite as intense as normal. Or it *could* mean that a Greenland
high forms for part of the time.
I've never been sure exactly how to interpret these Roeder charts

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

If that came off for much of December there could be the severe frost of
weatherlore transposed too now! Can you imagine those frozen Thames
occasions of yesteryear or just London life come to that.

Ken Livingstone holds a "Gay Frost Fayre"
and to borrow from Shakespeare
"So cold the Tennents Super Lager, came home frozen in the can"

McDonalds fry Burgers on the frozen Thames and discarded chips (regular)
freeze and become dangerous missiles in the hands of yobs.

Or it's so bloody perishing that a man is mugged for his gloves whilst the
new super Nokia is overlooked.

or drunk man frozen to bus-stop as cheap very greasy Doner Kebab congeals
and entraps it's new owner. A policeman on the scene says "If it wasn't for
the extra chilli sauce this man could have died"

So cruelly cold that Glue Sniifers set fire to the stuff before
sniffing-just to stay warm.

..How about perverts and muggers demand warm weather payments during current
freezing crisis


Nah it won't happen. Roeder's not that good

"Mr Blowfish" wrote in message
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Well if his December prediction bears fruit then something very seasonable
looks possible :-

http://www.climaprog.de/website0905005.htm

Regards

Sean B
Mind you that's Roeder and UKMO that are going for this particular scenario.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research.../regional/nao/

I think I'm right.

In article ,
lawrence Jenkins writes:
If that came off for much of December there could be the severe frost of
weatherlore transposed too now! Can you imagine those frozen Thames
occasions of yesteryear or just London life come to that.
snip

Nah it won't happen. Roeder's not that good



That's not the only reason why it won't happen. 1962-3 was colder than
some winters in the past when the Thames had frozen in London, but it
didn't happen then. The embankment of the river meant that its flow was
more vigorous than it used to be. Also before the demolition of the old
London Bridge, its narrow arches used to tend to cause the jamming
together of ice floes, which helped the river ultimately to freeze
solid. Also in 1962-3 power stations pumped a lot of warm water into the
river. This may be less of a factor now that Battersea Power Station has
closed.
--
John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
pays off now." Anon

lawrence Jenkins wrote:

I think I'm right.

I think Roeder is not, like most of the time
By the way, I read some rumors earlier this year that he quit his
casino-weather-games. Not sure why we hear from him again.

/H, The Netherlands

"John Hall" wrote in message
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In article ,
lawrence Jenkins writes:
If that came off for much of December there could be the severe frost of
weatherlore transposed too now! Can you imagine those frozen Thames
occasions of yesteryear or just London life come to that.
snip

Nah it won't happen. Roeder's not that good



That's not the only reason why it won't happen. 1962-3 was colder than
some winters in the past when the Thames had frozen in London, but it
didn't happen then. The embankment of the river meant that its flow was
more vigorous than it used to be. Also before the demolition of the old
London Bridge, its narrow arches used to tend to cause the jamming
together of ice floes, which helped the river ultimately to freeze
solid. Also in 1962-3 power stations pumped a lot of warm water into the
river. This may be less of a factor now that Battersea Power Station has
closed.
--
John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
pays off now." Anon

Thanks John, but I did know all that.

In article ,
lawrence Jenkins writes:
Thanks John, but I did know all that.

Good. But there may be other readers of the group who didn't.
--
John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
pays off now." Anon

lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Mr Blowfish" wrote in message
...
Well if his December prediction bears fruit then something very seasonable
looks possible :-

http://www.climaprog.de/website0905005.htm

Regards

Sean B
Mind you that's Roeder and UKMO that are going for this particular scenario.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research.../regional/nao/

I think I'm right.

That UKMO page has a big blue "cold" area over the UK but then when you
click on more details it suggests warmer than average conditions till
the end of January (until October - welcome, November onwards - no
thanks...) So which one's right?

Nick