Paul Johnson wrote:

Lobby Dosser wrote:

"gatt" wrote:


"Gene" wrote in message

Who needs clear dry days with "rainy" ones like this.The
continued
incapacity of this winter sky to yield anything more than mist or
sprinkle is bizarre and
certainly unprecedented in recorded history.

You have not lived in Oregon very long

Well, we don't very often see our ski resorts closed down in the
middle of February for lack of snow. It's definately going to be a
brutally dry summer.

Or a cool wet one, or ...

When we don't have winter, we have uninhabitably hot, dry summers. We
didn't have winter at the beginning of 1977, 1997, 2000 or 2002, and
each of those summers melted my shoes to manhole covers. 1997 was a
*really* bad summer, I ended up so tanned and sunburned I had to get a
new driver's license because everybody thought I had stolen some
Mexican immigrant's license from the photo and was peeling until
Thanksgiving.

Where are you living? The only really hot summers I remember are 1977
(mid valley) and 1992 (here).


This year will probably be bad, as we're still waiting for winter (and
no, that 40 hours of ice we had counts as fall weather, not winter).

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:54:27 -0800, Paul Johnson
wrote:

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When we don't have winter, we have uninhabitably hot, dry summers. We
didn't have winter at the beginning of 1977, 1997, 2000 or 2002, and each
of those summers melted my shoes to manhole covers. 1997 was a *really*
bad summer, I ended up so tanned and sunburned I had to get a new driver's
license because everybody thought I had stolen some Mexican immigrant's
license from the photo and was peeling until Thanksgiving.

Not always.

I remember at least one El Nino summer in the 80s where we started
with about 40 hours of ice, then nothing more.

jrw

This year will probably be bad, as we're still waiting for winter (and no,
that 40 hours of ice we had counts as fall weather, not winter).

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:39:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

"gatt" wrote:


"Gene" wrote in message

Who needs clear dry days with "rainy" ones like this.The
continued
incapacity of this winter sky to yield anything more than mist or
sprinkle is bizarre and
certainly unprecedented in recorded history.

You have not lived in Oregon very long

Well, we don't very often see our ski resorts closed down in the
middle of February for lack of snow. It's definately going to be a
brutally dry summer.

Or a cool wet one, or ...

My money's on an El Nino summer--cool, wet, and useless for growing
tomatoes.

jrw

Joyce Reynolds-Ward wrote:

My money's on an El Nino summer--cool, wet, and useless for growing
tomatoes.



It's only February and folks are starting to Blame El Nino!

"Joyce Reynolds-Ward" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:39:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

"gatt" wrote:


"Gene" wrote in message

Who needs clear dry days with "rainy" ones like this.The
continued
incapacity of this winter sky to yield anything more than mist or
sprinkle is bizarre and
certainly unprecedented in recorded history.

You have not lived in Oregon very long

Well, we don't very often see our ski resorts closed down in the
middle of February for lack of snow. It's definately going to be a
brutally dry summer.

Or a cool wet one, or ...

My money's on an El Nino summer--cool, wet, and useless for growing
tomatoes.

When we moved from Portland to Phoenix we left a whole garden full of green
tomatoes getting ready to ripen. Knowing that I was going to miss fresh
tomatoes I bought a vine here and put it in a big pot. The sucker survived
the winter and has buds on it now.

Man, is it weird here.

"gatt" wrote in message
...

"Gene" wrote in message

Who needs clear dry days with "rainy" ones like this.The continued
incapacity of this winter sky to yield anything more than mist or
sprinkle is bizarre and
certainly unprecedented in recorded history.

You have not lived in Oregon very long

Well, we don't very often see our ski resorts closed down in the middle of
February for lack of snow.

If anyone misses Oregon weather, come to Arizona. The ski resorts have thick
bases of snow and it's been rainy steady for the last two days here in
Phoenix, with more to come. We've had so much rain that the muddy water
flowing into the city is beyond the ability of the water purification plants
to handle it and we couldn't drink tap water here for almost a week.


It's definately going to be a brutally dry
summer.

Right now it's probably more like summer in Portland than winter. I am
enjoying it though.

"D Thompson" wrote:

We've had so much rain that the muddy water
flowing into the city is beyond the ability of the water purification
plants to handle it and we couldn't drink tap water here for almost a
week.


Poor baby!

"Lobby Dosser" wrote in message
news:C38Pd.1740$uc.9@trnddc01...
"D Thompson" wrote:

We've had so much rain that the muddy water
flowing into the city is beyond the ability of the water purification
plants to handle it and we couldn't drink tap water here for almost a
week.


Poor baby!

It's not like anyone drinks the tap water here anyway.

D Thompson wrote:

Right now it's probably more like summer in Portland than winter. I am
enjoying it though.

Nope. Portland usually gets hotter than LA for a couple weeks this summer,
usually late July through early August. I'm thinking probably late June to
mid-October this year, one of those years when it really pays off to get a
Sauvie Island parking permit.

--
Paul Johnson

http://ursine.ca/~baloo/

"Paul Johnson" wrote in message
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D Thompson wrote:

Right now it's probably more like summer in Portland than winter. I am
enjoying it though.

Nope. Portland usually gets hotter than LA for a couple weeks this
summer,
usually late July through early August. I'm thinking probably late June
to
mid-October this year, one of those years when it really pays off to get a
Sauvie Island parking permit.

I was being facetious. I know what the weather is like in Portland. My point
was that I didn't mean that Phoenix now was like Portland in the winter.

We have had over a third of our normal yearly rainfall as L.A. has. At least
we don't get mudslides like they do, but the flash floods can be just as
bad.

I do remember how hot it was in 2000. Lots of ninety degree days. Portland
summers are worsened by the humidity, but they still don't get anywhere near
as bad here.