"Neil Bradley" wrote in message
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1) Air stinks and is yellow/orange (say what you want about LA and most
of California's big cities - LA, San Diego - having 'nice weather',
they're smelly & ugly)
Here's a hint: LA and San Diego aren't the only sunny places, and the
polution problem is geographical, not because of the sun.

Air usually stagnates because of heat, which is caused by the sun. Ever
wonder why clean air action days happen durring sunny periods?

Sunny does not equal heat, and the worst air inversions happen in the winter
when COLD air traps the pollution in a valley.

4) Having to hear 'Oh, it's such a wonderful day out' all the time
Man, what a grouch.

Not at all. I like sunny days. I like rainy days. I like a balance. But
when I hear mindless societal programming repeated in a
"rain=bad/sun=good" stance repeatedly from sun lemmings, that's irritating
to no end.

Oh, so someone enjoying sunny days is "societal programming" and enjoying
overcast days isn't? That's pretty paranoid, considering that it is known
that sunny days energize people and overcast days make them depressed and
prone to suicide (check the suicide rates, Portland is one of the highest).
Going against your own physiology and developing a taste for something that
is detrimental IS programming, so that actually describes people in the
northwest, not the southwest.



5) Dead/dying lawns and plants
Ever heard of sprinklers?

Which leads to increased water costs and use.

6) Increased pollen count/allergy problems
As opposed to the mold and mildew problem during the wet weather.

Funny, haven't had that problem - ever. But it sure beats suffering 6
months out of the year EVERY YEAR.

Well, you can be in denial all you want, but Portland is one of the worst
places for mold allergies. It doesn't mean everyone has them, but it also
means that not everyone has pollen allergies, so at best it is a wash.



7) Increased insect population (wasps already are appearing, folks)
Caused by a nice wet winter in most cases.

No, it's caused by weak winters that don't kill off the insect larvae, so
their numbers are much greater. I'm already getting wasps under my eaves.

Weak winters is all Portland pretty much has. All you did was call a "nice
wet winter" a "weak winter". Same thing.



The drought actually lowers the insect population because it decreases
theur food and habitat.

Yes, and I'm not having an issue with the drought.

8) Neighbor kids with loud car stereos with their windows down
Man, you are really stretching.

Come live on my block for a while. No stretching about it.

I never had that problem where I lived in Portland, so your claim is a
stretch as far as my experience goes.


9) More people outdoors late at night and keep others awake
Oh the horror! People having fun.

Inconsiderate people making enough noise to keep their neighbors awake is
OK, huh?

If it's before 10 pm, that's the way it goes. After 10 you can call the
police if you want, or ask them to turn it down.

Geez, that's stupid. Couple that with people who sit out on their decks and
smoke cigarettes, and the rest of the neighbors have to smell that horrid
smell.

People who don't smoke in their houses generally do so all year around.
Blaming your neighbor's smoke on sunny weather is pretty lame and thin
skinned.



10) Increased costs in electricity and water
Not exactly dependant on sunny weather.

The word is "dependent", and you will find a definite correlation between
extended periods of sunny weather and increase electricity and water
costs.

You will also find it on extended periods of cold weather. You are also
ignoring that cold weather brings more fireplace smoke, and you don't seem
to be able to handle smoke when it's warm.


If you like this kind of weather despite all of these reasons, kindly
STFU
about it publicly so as to not rub it in for those of us who hate it.
You guys even whine when it's plain sunny and it's not a drought so I say
nothing more annoying than those mindless people who gush on and on about
sunny days.
Man, you are one dreary little *******. Do the lights automatically dim
when you walk into the room?

Yet another mindless sun worshipping drone who has no mental ability to
fathom the possibility that not everyone in the universe thinks sunny
weather is overwhelmingly good.

No, I like breaks from all kinds of weather. I was reacting to an idiot that
was going into hystrionics over the thought of one year of drought and went
out of his way to come up with ridiculous examples on why he hates good
weather. Please make a note to your self that he didn't say one good thing
about sunny weather, and I was only pointing out how ridiculous he was
being. I never said that sunny weather was overwhelmingly good, but I guess
you and the other guy have to make dishonest exagerations to make it look
like you have anything going for you. You both need to get a little sun.

Dave Thompson wrote:
"Neil Bradley" wrote in message
...
Here's a hint: LA and San Diego aren't the only sunny places, and the
polution problem is geographical, not because of the sun.
Air usually stagnates because of heat, which is caused by the sun. Ever
wonder why clean air action days happen durring sunny periods?
Sunny does not equal heat,

True, but compared to cloudy days, it's more likely to be warmer/hotter.

4) Having to hear 'Oh, it's such a wonderful day out' all the time
Man, what a grouch.
Not at all. I like sunny days. I like rainy days. I like a balance. But
when I hear mindless societal programming repeated in a
"rain=bad/sun=good" stance repeatedly from sun lemmings, that's irritating
to no end.
Oh, so someone enjoying sunny days is "societal programming" and enjoying
overcast days isn't?

No, gushing on and on about it like mindless dolts *IS* societal programming.
Like I said, I like sunny day, I also like rainy days. But our society is so
screwed up that people can't just accept the weather the way it is - they have
to walk around like zombies and say "Oh, what a great day it is today!" all the
friggin' time, yet they don't say anything about rainy days and/or whine about it.

You watch. When this unusual spell ends, everyone is going to whine like a bunch
of dolts about "no more sunny weather". Can't they just shut up about it? Go
enjoy the sunny weather. Just don't make me have to enjoy you enjoying it.

Going against your own physiology and developing a taste for something that
is detrimental IS programming, so that actually describes people in the
northwest, not the southwest.

I'm not going against my physiology. Like I've said several times already, I
like sunny days, and I like rainy days. But I don't go around gushing like an
idiot about sunny days and denying the rainy days exist. In fact, I'm more
likely to like rainy days because I value the things it brings more than the
sun. But I don't have to make everyone else endure droning on about 'how nice'
or 'how bad' the weather is.

months out of the year EVERY YEAR.
Well, you can be in denial all you want, but Portland is one of the worst
places for mold allergies. It doesn't mean everyone has them, but it also
means that not everyone has pollen allergies, so at best it is a wash.

Most people have pollen allergies - me included. Alderwood is NASTY right now
and I've been suffering for the last 2 weeks.

8) Neighbor kids with loud car stereos with their windows down
Man, you are really stretching.
Come live on my block for a while. No stretching about it.
I never had that problem where I lived in Portland, so your claim is a
stretch as far as my experience goes.

I guess you must've lived in neighborhoods where teens couldn't afford cars.
I've lived here for 35 years and in many, many neighborhoods since the 80s.
Again, these dolts will go outside to wash their cars and turn their stereos up
to the point where I can hear it clearly through closed windows. I don't get
that when it's cold.

9) More people outdoors late at night and keep others awake
Oh the horror! People having fun.
Inconsiderate people making enough noise to keep their neighbors awake is
OK, huh?
If it's before 10 pm, that's the way it goes. After 10 you can call the
police if you want, or ask them to turn it down.

Yeah, but if it were raining I wouldn't have to be woken up by drunken partiers
on their back deck at 2AM, now, would I?

People who don't smoke in their houses generally do so all year around.
Blaming your neighbor's smoke on sunny weather is pretty lame and thin
skinned.

Not at all. Sunny weather == more likely to be outside == I can't open my
windows without smelling that horrid crap. Same thing with lawnmower exhaust.

10) Increased costs in electricity and water
Not exactly dependant on sunny weather.
The word is "dependent", and you will find a definite correlation between
extended periods of sunny weather and increase electricity and water
costs.
You will also find it on extended periods of cold weather. You are also
ignoring that cold weather brings more fireplace smoke, and you don't seem
to be able to handle smoke when it's warm.

I can't handle cigarette smoke (and I don't like fireplace smoke, either). Most
everyone in the neighborhood I live in have gas fireplaces (read that, no
smoke). 4th Of July is horrible, too...

Man, you are one dreary little *******. Do the lights automatically dim
when you walk into the room?
Yet another mindless sun worshipping drone who has no mental ability to
fathom the possibility that not everyone in the universe thinks sunny
weather is overwhelmingly good.
No, I like breaks from all kinds of weather. I was reacting to an idiot that
was going into hystrionics over the thought of one year of drought and went
out of his way to come up with ridiculous examples on why he hates good
weather.

"good" Is a subjective term. My issue is the way people react to it, not sunny
weather itself.

Please make a note to your self that he didn't say one good thing
about sunny weather, and I was only pointing out how ridiculous he was
being. I never said that sunny weather was overwhelmingly good, but I guess
you and the other guy have to make dishonest exagerations to make it look
like you have anything going for you. You both need to get a little sun.

I just don't understand the overwhelming urge for people to have to mention it
all the time.

--Neil

Neil Bradley wrote:

Look on the bright side. Eventually you'll die.

Dave Thompson wrote:
"Neil Bradley" wrote in message
...
Here's a hint: LA and San Diego aren't the only sunny places, and
the polution problem is geographical, not because of the sun.
Air usually stagnates because of heat, which is caused by the sun.
Ever wonder why clean air action days happen durring sunny periods?
Sunny does not equal heat,

True, but compared to cloudy days, it's more likely to be
warmer/hotter.

4) Having to hear 'Oh, it's such a wonderful day out' all the time
Man, what a grouch.
Not at all. I like sunny days. I like rainy days. I like a balance.
But when I hear mindless societal programming repeated in a
"rain=bad/sun=good" stance repeatedly from sun lemmings, that's
irritating to no end.
Oh, so someone enjoying sunny days is "societal programming" and
enjoying overcast days isn't?

No, gushing on and on about it like mindless dolts *IS* societal
programming. Like I said, I like sunny day, I also like rainy days.
But our society is so screwed up that people can't just accept the
weather the way it is - they have to walk around like zombies and say
"Oh, what a great day it is today!" all the friggin' time, yet they
don't say anything about rainy days and/or whine about it.

You watch. When this unusual spell ends, everyone is going to whine
like a bunch of dolts about "no more sunny weather". Can't they just
shut up about it? Go enjoy the sunny weather. Just don't make me have
to enjoy you enjoying it.

Going against your own physiology and developing a taste for
something that is detrimental IS programming, so that actually
describes people in the northwest, not the southwest.

I'm not going against my physiology. Like I've said several times
already, I like sunny days, and I like rainy days. But I don't go
around gushing like an idiot about sunny days and denying the rainy
days exist. In fact, I'm more likely to like rainy days because I
value the things it brings more than the sun. But I don't have to make
everyone else endure droning on about 'how nice' or 'how bad' the
weather is.

months out of the year EVERY YEAR.
Well, you can be in denial all you want, but Portland is one of the
worst places for mold allergies. It doesn't mean everyone has them,
but it also means that not everyone has pollen allergies, so at best
it is a wash.

Most people have pollen allergies - me included. Alderwood is NASTY
right now and I've been suffering for the last 2 weeks.

8) Neighbor kids with loud car stereos with their windows down
Man, you are really stretching.
Come live on my block for a while. No stretching about it.
I never had that problem where I lived in Portland, so your claim is
a stretch as far as my experience goes.

I guess you must've lived in neighborhoods where teens couldn't afford
cars. I've lived here for 35 years and in many, many neighborhoods
since the 80s. Again, these dolts will go outside to wash their cars
and turn their stereos up to the point where I can hear it clearly
through closed windows. I don't get that when it's cold.

9) More people outdoors late at night and keep others awake
Oh the horror! People having fun.
Inconsiderate people making enough noise to keep their neighbors
awake is OK, huh?
If it's before 10 pm, that's the way it goes. After 10 you can call
the police if you want, or ask them to turn it down.

Yeah, but if it were raining I wouldn't have to be woken up by drunken
partiers on their back deck at 2AM, now, would I?

People who don't smoke in their houses generally do so all year
around. Blaming your neighbor's smoke on sunny weather is pretty lame
and thin skinned.

Not at all. Sunny weather == more likely to be outside == I can't open
my windows without smelling that horrid crap. Same thing with
lawnmower exhaust.

10) Increased costs in electricity and water
Not exactly dependant on sunny weather.
The word is "dependent", and you will find a definite correlation
between extended periods of sunny weather and increase electricity
and water costs.
You will also find it on extended periods of cold weather. You are
also ignoring that cold weather brings more fireplace smoke, and you
don't seem to be able to handle smoke when it's warm.

I can't handle cigarette smoke (and I don't like fireplace smoke,
either). Most everyone in the neighborhood I live in have gas
fireplaces (read that, no smoke). 4th Of July is horrible, too...

Man, you are one dreary little *******. Do the lights automatically
dim when you walk into the room?
Yet another mindless sun worshipping drone who has no mental ability
to fathom the possibility that not everyone in the universe thinks
sunny weather is overwhelmingly good.
No, I like breaks from all kinds of weather. I was reacting to an
idiot that was going into hystrionics over the thought of one year of
drought and went out of his way to come up with ridiculous examples
on why he hates good weather.

"good" Is a subjective term. My issue is the way people react to it,
not sunny weather itself.

Please make a note to your self that he didn't say one good thing
about sunny weather, and I was only pointing out how ridiculous he
was being. I never said that sunny weather was overwhelmingly good,
but I guess you and the other guy have to make dishonest exagerations
to make it look like you have anything going for you. You both need
to get a little sun.

I just don't understand the overwhelming urge for people to have to
mention it all the time.

--Neil

Lobby Dosser wrote:
Neil Bradley wrote:

Look on the bright side. Eventually you'll die.

I'm looking on the bright side - eventually it'll rain. ;-)

--Neil

Neil Bradley wrote:

Lobby Dosser wrote:
Neil Bradley wrote:

Look on the bright side. Eventually you'll die.

I'm looking on the bright side - eventually it'll rain. ;-)

--Neil


That too. )

Portland weather is perfect this year. Hopefully we will get many more
years like this. There is more than enough water to go around many times.
"777thSector" wrote in message
oups.com...

Those useless gnomes oughta find some more
meaningful employment b/c their ain't no
weather folks.
Just remember this:
Nature offers no free lunch.If you all would
love the "beautiful weather" to continue on
and on,then prepare yourself for limits on your
water use.
I,for one,hate global warming-you will too.