Weatherlawyer wrote:
Here is where you CAN make a difference:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/me...ate=2005-09-07

I doubt anyone would have the effrontery to try and stop them with a
few forms.

....answers the question of what the bloody hell you've been smoking...

Bob Harrington wrote:

snip

Hiya Bobby.

Here are some more goodies for you:

"I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees."
-President Bush, on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days
after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected
from Hurricane Katrina

"What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay
in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many
of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway
so this (chuckle) - this is working very well for them." -Former
First Lady Barbara Bush, on the Hurricane flood evacuees in the Houston
Astrodome, Sept. 5, 2005

"We've got a lot of rebuilding to do ... The good news is - and it's
hard for some to see it now - that out of this chaos is going to come
a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubble of Trent
Lott's house - he's lost his entire house - there's going to be a
fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch."
-President Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2,
2005 (Source)

"Considering the dire circumstances that we have in New Orleans,
virtually a city that has been destroyed, things are going relatively
well." -FEMA Director Michael Brown, Sept. 1, 2005 (My favourite.)

"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." -President Bush, to FEMA
director Michael Brown, while touring Hurricane-ravaged Mississippi,
Sept. 2, 2005

"I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the convention
center who don't have food and water." -Homeland Security Secretary
Michael Chertoff, on NPR's "All Things Considered," Sept. 1, 2005

"You simply get chills every time you see these poor individuals...many
of these people, almost all of them that we see are so poor and they
are so black." -CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on New Orleans' hurricane
evacuees, Sept. 1, 2005

"Steve Scott" wrote in message
...
On 12 Sep 2005 05:11:35 -0700, "Weatherlawyer"
wrote:


On 12 Sep 2005 01:11:37 -0700, "Weatherlawyer"
wrote:

The President put at the head of FEMA, a man who stopped the busses
running apparently.

Steve Scott wrote:
Got any responsible sources for this? What I've seen shows the mayor
never got them started and that the LA state government stopped the
Red Cross from delivering food and water to the Super Dome.

Hard to believe that anyone could or would do that isn't it?

What I heard on the news on either the BBC or ITV's Channel Three was
that when the busses were started they had some jobsworth ordering them
stopped.

You're saying the head of FEMA ordered someone to stop the buses from
evacuating those in NO before the hurricane struck? Hardly, Bush
called Blanco trying to get her to declare a state of emergency
beforehand. The director of the National Hurricane Center personally
called Nagin and Blanco pleading with them to declare a manatory
evacuation.

The erstwhile head of FEMA no longer has to cover his arse, so I dare
say that once he sticks his head up, someone can ask him what the hell
happened.

Personally I think he should slit his wrists and forget about it all.
If he makes a fortune writing his memoirs one day....

Get your news from someone/place other than Michael Moore.


Im beginning to think Im onna bus with nothing but bozos. here....

To get to the root.......twasnt the hurricane at all, fact is the
"catastrophe" here was that the levee done broke....

IOW: The lake Ponchartrain got too high was all........

Federal money went to fix it, Billy Bob gave a cut to his cousin Billy Bob
III, who gave a cut to Bobby Joe, and so it
went........Meanwhile.........dike construyction was halted, any federal
admin woulda done that....Democrat, Republican or otherwise...why did the
pumps all get submerged in floodwaters.....cause all the money was given to
Billy Bob, and his buddies thats why.

And big question is why is Cheny and Halliburton Et al getting tons of high
$$$ contracts here and abroad, under no-bid conditions ???

Liberal or Conservative platform, they all are notihng but ****ing money
grubbing pigs--live and learn, I say.

All water under the bridge now, the current task is to prevent it's
re-occurance.

--

SVL

amcwill417 wrote:

And, by the way, where was God? Why not go the the very top?

He was hardly likely to affiliate himself with people who treat the
weapon upon which his son was murdered as of as much importance as his
boy was he?

Now, was he going to be shepeherding world leaders that are conniving
liars?

(That's assuming you are referring to that particular God.)

But if you are really interested in knowing more about this
quasi-mythological figurehead you must be prepared to reason more on
the subject.

And jump to fewer conclusions.

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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amcwill417 wrote:

And, by the way, where was God? Why not go the the very top?

He was hardly likely to affiliate himself with people who treat the
weapon upon which his son was murdered as of as much importance as his
boy was he?

Now, was he going to be shepeherding world leaders that are conniving
liars?

(That's assuming you are referring to that particular God.)

But if you are really interested in knowing more about this
quasi-mythological figurehead you must be prepared to reason more on
the subject.

And jump to fewer conclusions.


Well, He could have parted the waters just like some expected George W. Bush
to do. But if all has to come from the top then start at the very top with
all the nasty invective.

Alex

amcwill417 wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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amcwill417 wrote:

And, by the way, where was God? Why not go the the very top?

He was hardly likely to affiliate himself with people who treat the
weapon upon which his son was murdered as of as much importance as
his boy was he?

Now, was he going to be shepeherding world leaders that are conniving
liars?

(That's assuming you are referring to that particular God.)

But if you are really interested in knowing more about this
quasi-mythological figurehead you must be prepared to reason more on
the subject.

And jump to fewer conclusions.


Well, He could have parted the waters just like some expected George
W. Bush to do. But if all has to come from the top then start at the
very top with all the nasty invective.

If President Bush ~had~ parted the waters, the kookloon left would have
just shrieked yet louder about mixing religion and government...

This is alt.talk.weather not your stupid thoughts on politics ..... get off
jerk .... PLONK !!
"Steve Scott" wrote in message
...
He is CIC of the armed forces. However the governor has to call in
the National Guard unless the President invokes the Insurrection Act.
What would your response have been if he had done that? Never mind, I
already know.

BTW, did you hear the one about the Red Cross having food at the
SuperDome almost immediately and being rebuffed by the LA state
Homeland Security? That's probably Bush's fault as well.

On 10 Sep 2005 07:26:06 -0700, "Weatherlawyer"
wrote:


Steve Scott wrote:
On 8 Sep 2005 23:04:39 -0700, "Weatherlawyer"
wrote:

Isn't the President of the United States being paid to look after the
people who need to be defended?

No, that's NOT his job

Well it's not my fault I am ignorant of the social mores of the
politics of the USA. I was given to understand that your President was
the commander in chief of the armed forces there.

Thank you for the correction.


--
Beatings will continue until morale
improves.

amcwill417 wrote:

Well, He could have parted the waters just like some expected George W. Bush
to do. But if all has to come from the top then start at the very top with
all the nasty invective.

Do you mean that God was a ijut for giving the control of the planet to
such miscreants?

Excerpt from Life on the Mississippi:

Considering the Missouri its main branch, it is the longest river in
the world -four thousand three hundred miles. It seems safe to say that
it is also the crookedest river in the world, since in one part of its
journey it uses up one thousand three hundred miles to cover the same
ground that the crow would fly over in six hundred and seventy-five.

It discharges three times as much water as the St. Lawrence,
twenty-five times as much as the Rhine, and three hundred and
thirty-eight times as much as the Thames.

No other river has so vast a drainage-basin: it draws its water supply
from twenty-eight States and Territories; from Delaware, on the
Atlantic seaboard, and from all the country between that and Idaho on
the Pacific slope--a spread of forty-five degrees of longitude.

The Mississippi receives and carries to the Gulf, water from fifty-four
subordinate rivers that are navigable by steamboats, and from some
hundreds that are navigable by flats and keels.

The area of its drainage-basin is as great as the combined areas of
England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France, Spain, Portugal, Germany,
Austria, Italy, and Turkey; and almost all this wide region is fertile;
the Mississippi valley, proper, is exceptionally so.

http://docsouth.unc.edu/twainlife/twain.html

Excerpt from the Open University, a BBC education service; quote from
an officer of the United States Fish and Wild Life Service:

"What's happened to the Mississippi in the last 100 to 150 years is
that it's flood plain has been restricted to about 10% of what it used
to be.

It used to wonder over 25 million acres in the 954 miles that it ran to
the Gulf of Mexico but now that has been reduced to 2.5 million acres
and what this has done is reduce the number of biological species.

But if you restrict that flood plain like we have, to 10% of what it
used to be, now you start to see animals become extinct or threatened
with extinction because you've got a much smaller area."

Quote from Michael Robinson, an expert on the Missisippi on the same
programme:

(Speaking about the flooding of 1927) "It was a true holocaust that
drove more than 700,000 people from their homes and covered more than
26,000 square miles.

It is in fact the worst natural disaster that ever occurred in the
United States."

One might have expected an history student to have considered that fact
when he was considering tax cuts that might impinge on such a
watershed. In ancient Rome, a man responsible for such a disaster might
well be expected to take his own life in return for the state sparing
his family full retribution.

I wonder how many people are at this moment contemplating adding GW to
the list of assassinated US Presidents. Apparently your people have a
trigger happy attitude to regicide.

One not entirely without its merits.

Just exactly what should God be blamed for?

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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amcwill417 wrote:

Well, He could have parted the waters just like some expected George W.
Bush
to do. But if all has to come from the top then start at the very top
with
all the nasty invective.

Do you mean that God was a ijut for giving the control of the planet to
such miscreants?

Excerpt from Life on the Mississippi:

Considering the Missouri its main branch, it is the longest river in
the world -four thousand three hundred miles. It seems safe to say that
it is also the crookedest river in the world, since in one part of its
journey it uses up one thousand three hundred miles to cover the same
ground that the crow would fly over in six hundred and seventy-five.

It discharges three times as much water as the St. Lawrence,
twenty-five times as much as the Rhine, and three hundred and
thirty-eight times as much as the Thames.

No other river has so vast a drainage-basin: it draws its water supply
from twenty-eight States and Territories; from Delaware, on the
Atlantic seaboard, and from all the country between that and Idaho on
the Pacific slope--a spread of forty-five degrees of longitude.

The Mississippi receives and carries to the Gulf, water from fifty-four
subordinate rivers that are navigable by steamboats, and from some
hundreds that are navigable by flats and keels.

The area of its drainage-basin is as great as the combined areas of
England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France, Spain, Portugal, Germany,
Austria, Italy, and Turkey; and almost all this wide region is fertile;
the Mississippi valley, proper, is exceptionally so.

http://docsouth.unc.edu/twainlife/twain.html

Excerpt from the Open University, a BBC education service; quote from
an officer of the United States Fish and Wild Life Service:

"What's happened to the Mississippi in the last 100 to 150 years is
that it's flood plain has been restricted to about 10% of what it used
to be.

It used to wonder over 25 million acres in the 954 miles that it ran to
the Gulf of Mexico but now that has been reduced to 2.5 million acres
and what this has done is reduce the number of biological species.

But if you restrict that flood plain like we have, to 10% of what it
used to be, now you start to see animals become extinct or threatened
with extinction because you've got a much smaller area."

Quote from Michael Robinson, an expert on the Missisippi on the same
programme:

(Speaking about the flooding of 1927) "It was a true holocaust that
drove more than 700,000 people from their homes and covered more than
26,000 square miles.

It is in fact the worst natural disaster that ever occurred in the
United States."

One might have expected an history student to have considered that fact
when he was considering tax cuts that might impinge on such a
watershed. In ancient Rome, a man responsible for such a disaster might
well be expected to take his own life in return for the state sparing
his family full retribution.

I wonder how many people are at this moment contemplating adding GW to
the list of assassinated US Presidents. Apparently your people have a
trigger happy attitude to regicide.

One not entirely without its merits.

Just exactly what should God be blamed for?


I doubt that I belong to "your people" , whatever they are. If you are so
disposed God can be blamed for anything you want to blame Him for. I suppose
you can say the same about GW. Natural disasters happen. New Orleans was a
predicted disaster waiting to happen and much may have been avoided if the
proper measures were taken years ago - such as improving the levee system.
The area will be rebuilt but one wonders what will happen if a hurricane
moves into the Gulf region in 2006. Will people freak out every time this
happens? Perhaps not so if "your people" are in charge.

Alex
But then one wonders - how does an elephant peel a banana?

..

"Bob Harrington" wrote in message
...
amcwill417 wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
oups.com...

amcwill417 wrote:

And, by the way, where was God? Why not go the the very top?

He was hardly likely to affiliate himself with people who treat the
weapon upon which his son was murdered as of as much importance as
his boy was he?

Now, was he going to be shepeherding world leaders that are conniving
liars?

(That's assuming you are referring to that particular God.)

But if you are really interested in knowing more about this
quasi-mythological figurehead you must be prepared to reason more on
the subject.

And jump to fewer conclusions.


Well, He could have parted the waters just like some expected George
W. Bush to do. But if all has to come from the top then start at the
very top with all the nasty invective.

If President Bush ~had~ parted the waters, the kookloon left would have
just shrieked yet louder about mixing religion and government...

And that is most likely the reason why he did not part the waters.

Alex