Hatunen wrote:

Early Monday morning I told my wife I'd check weather conditions
outside, so I went down to the front door of our apartment
building to check the street. Damn! The street was completely
plowed; they ahd been plowing through the night.

My wife drove me down to Town of Mount Royal to catch a train
into downtown. Damned if the Town had not only plowed the snow
off the streets, they'd taken it away.

The sidewalks were probably cleaned off within a few hours to it. We do not consider snow
to be a disaster. It is a normal weather condition that you learn to deal with. Everyone
has a shovel or snow blower to clear off their driveways and sidewalks. If there is snow on
the road you drive a little slower. The snowplows clear the snow off the roads and
everything looks white and pretty. Once every 50 years of so we get a serious blizzard.
But even that is not a major problem. You stay home and miss a day or two of work until
the snow is cleaned up.

Hatunen wrote:

Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.

When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?

There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.

At the eastern end of Lake Erie around Buffalo they really get a lot of
snow dumped on them. All it does is slow people down a bit. They can get a
foot or two of snow overnight and the roads will be open and everything
keeps running. In other places they aren't bright enough to invest in a few
sanders and snow plows and an inch of snow is a disaster. That's like
getting flooded out in a light rain because you don't have a roof on your
house.

"Frank F. Matthews" wrote:


Well, snow usually means freezing & the OP didn't want freezing.

Wimps ;-)
I feel the same about extreme heat. I figure that if it drops below freezing you put on a
coat and some gloves to go out, or put on a sweater in the house. I find it easier to deal
with cold that extreme heat. That makes air conditioning mandatory.

"Dave Smith" wrote in message
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"Frank F. Matthews" wrote:


Well, snow usually means freezing & the OP didn't want freezing.

Wimps ;-)
I feel the same about extreme heat. I figure that if it drops below
freezing you put on a
coat and some gloves to go out, or put on a sweater in the house. I find
it easier to deal
with cold that extreme heat. That makes air conditioning mandatory.

Why put up with extreme heat or cold or humidity? I don't.

Robert

"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:34:26 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:26:28 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:05 -0700, Robert wrote:
Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.

When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?

There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.

Oh my god no! What do you do if you live in a 50 square foot shack and
only
have room in the pantry for one meal?

Eat snow. Actually, if someone wants very consistent temperatures year
round and a place that's safe, I suppose the islands of Lanai and Molokai
would be ideal as I don't recall they've ever been hit by hurricanes that
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sechumlib wrote:
On 2006-04-10 17:14:41 -0400, "Frank F. Matthews"
said:

Well, snow usually means freezing & the OP didn't want freezing.


If ALL of these varied views of what the OP meant are correct, I don't
think ANYWHERE in the US would be acceptable. Perhaps nothing short of
paradise would.



What he said was "When I say "safe" I mean the safest states from
dangers such as natural disasters like Hurricanes, Tornados,
Earthquakes, Floods, Wild Fires, Grapefruit sized hailstones, Severe
Weather etc, as well as from crime, gangs and things like that?

If for example I wanted to live in the USA, I don't think it would be
a good idea for me to choose Arizona because I have skin that easily
burns. I also wouldn't want to choose somewhere like Maine or
Minnesota where it might be freezing a lot of the time."

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:57:01 -0400, Dave Smith
wrote:

Hatunen wrote:

Early Monday morning I told my wife I'd check weather conditions
outside, so I went down to the front door of our apartment
building to check the street. Damn! The street was completely
plowed; they ahd been plowing through the night.

My wife drove me down to Town of Mount Royal to catch a train
into downtown. Damned if the Town had not only plowed the snow
off the streets, they'd taken it away.

The sidewalks were probably cleaned off within a few hours to it. We do not consider snow
to be a disaster. It is a normal weather condition that you learn to deal with. Everyone
has a shovel or snow blower to clear off their driveways and sidewalks. If there is snow on
the road you drive a little slower. The snowplows clear the snow off the roads and
everything looks white and pretty. Once every 50 years of so we get a serious blizzard.
But even that is not a major problem. You stay home and miss a day or two of work until
the snow is cleaned up.

That's what we were hoping for.

By the by, once the snow is piled up alongside the street,
payloaders and dump trucks come along later and haul it all away.
They take it to special gas burners wehre it is melted. And they
pile some of it in high piles in city parks to create sledding
hills. Remains of these hills can still be seen in the parks in
June.

Whatever the Canadians benign view of winter, we moved directly
to Tucson from Montreal and I enrolled in grad school at the
University of Arizona. There must be a number of like-minded
Canadians, given the large numbers of them to be found each
winter in Florida and Arizona.


************* DAVE HATUNEN ) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:00:22 -0400, Dave Smith
wrote:

Hatunen wrote:

Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.

When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?

There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.

At the eastern end of Lake Erie around Buffalo they really get a lot of
snow dumped on them. All it does is slow people down a bit. They can get a
foot or two of snow overnight and the roads will be open and everything
keeps running. In other places they aren't bright enough to invest in a few
sanders and snow plows and an inch of snow is a disaster. That's like
getting flooded out in a light rain because you don't have a roof on your
house.

I'm quite familiar with the lake effect snow in Buffalo. There's
a biiig diffrence between a built up area like Buffalo and the
wide open spaces of Montana and North Dakota. And let's face it,
someties a heavy snow actually does shut down Buffalo.

************* DAVE HATUNEN ) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Hatunen wrote:

Whatever the Canadians benign view of winter, we moved directly
to Tucson from Montreal and I enrolled in grad school at the
University of Arizona. There must be a number of like-minded
Canadians, given the large numbers of them to be found each
winter in Florida and Arizona.

True enough. It's more a matter of being fed up with cold weather than considering snow to be a
natural disaster.
Personally, I have never gone south for a winter vacation. I figure that if I go early in the
winter I still have to come back and face a few months of cold weather. If I go in the middle I
get a nice touch of summer with a winter before and a winter after, so that is two winters in
one year. If I wait until the end of winter it's almost spring anyway, so I might as well stick
it out. The trick is to get involved in a winter activity. If you like downhill or cross
country skiing you look forward to the snow.

Hatunen wrote:


At the eastern end of Lake Erie around Buffalo they really get a lot of
snow dumped on them. All it does is slow people down a bit. They can get a
foot or two of snow overnight and the roads will be open and everything
keeps running. In other places they aren't bright enough to invest in a few
sanders and snow plows and an inch of snow is a disaster. That's like
getting flooded out in a light rain because you don't have a roof on your
house.

I'm quite familiar with the lake effect snow in Buffalo. There's
a biiig diffrence between a built up area like Buffalo and the
wide open spaces of Montana and North Dakota. And let's face it,
someties a heavy snow actually does shut down Buffalo.

Yes. Once in a while it does happen. What is interesting is that it usually is
the result of 20-30 times more snow to shut down that city than it would some
other places. I saw news reports of "winter storms" in the US midwest thing
winter that didn't even look like winter. It would take about 3 feet of snow to
have the same effect on Buffalo.