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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:26:28 GMT, AZ Nomad
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:05 -0700, Robert wrote:


Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.


When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?


There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.

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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:34:26 -0700, Hatunen wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:26:28 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:05 -0700, Robert wrote:


Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.


When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?


There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.


Oh my god no! What do you do if you live in a 50 square foot shack and only
have room in the pantry for one meal?

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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:08:26 GMT, AZ Nomad
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:34:26 -0700, Hatunen wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:26:28 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:05 -0700, Robert wrote:


Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.

When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?


There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.


Oh my god no! What do you do if you live in a 50 square foot shack and only
have room in the pantry for one meal?


Uh. What would you think?

Plan ahead.

next question, please.

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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:39:50 -0700, Hatunen wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:08:26 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:34:26 -0700, Hatunen wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:26:28 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:05 -0700, Robert wrote:


Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.

When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?


There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.


Oh my god no! What do you do if you live in a 50 square foot shack and only
have room in the pantry for one meal?


Uh. What would you think?


Plan ahead.


no **** sherlock. That perhaps is why being snowed in for a couple of
days isn't a big deal.


next question, please.

What is sarcasm?


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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:02:31 GMT, AZ Nomad
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:39:50 -0700, Hatunen wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:08:26 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:34:26 -0700, Hatunen wrote:


On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:26:28 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:05 -0700, Robert wrote:

Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.

When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?

There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.

Oh my god no! What do you do if you live in a 50 square foot shack and only
have room in the pantry for one meal?


Uh. What would you think?


Plan ahead.


no **** sherlock. That perhaps is why being snowed in for a couple of
days isn't a big deal.


I suspect that if even you were cooped up in a 50 sq ft cabin for
several days if would be a big deal.

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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:34:26 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:26:28 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:05 -0700, Robert wrote:
Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.

When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?


There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.


Oh my god no! What do you do if you live in a 50 square foot shack and
only
have room in the pantry for one meal?

Eat snow. Actually, if someone wants very consistent temperatures year
round and a place that's safe, I suppose the islands of Lanai and Molokai
would be ideal as I don't recall they've ever been hit by hurricanes that
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Hatunen wrote:

Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.


When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?


There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.


At the eastern end of Lake Erie around Buffalo they really get a lot of
snow dumped on them. All it does is slow people down a bit. They can get a
foot or two of snow overnight and the roads will be open and everything
keeps running. In other places they aren't bright enough to invest in a few
sanders and snow plows and an inch of snow is a disaster. That's like
getting flooded out in a light rain because you don't have a roof on your
house.


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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:00:22 -0400, Dave Smith
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Hatunen wrote:

Speak for yourself. I grew up in Montana and snow IS a major problem.

When was that? Right at the dawn of the automobile age before they'd
figured out how to plow roads?


There are times when it can take several days to even get
Interstates open up across the tier of northern plains states.
Minor back roads may stay closed for days and days and never get
plowed.


At the eastern end of Lake Erie around Buffalo they really get a lot of
snow dumped on them. All it does is slow people down a bit. They can get a
foot or two of snow overnight and the roads will be open and everything
keeps running. In other places they aren't bright enough to invest in a few
sanders and snow plows and an inch of snow is a disaster. That's like
getting flooded out in a light rain because you don't have a roof on your
house.


I'm quite familiar with the lake effect snow in Buffalo. There's
a biiig diffrence between a built up area like Buffalo and the
wide open spaces of Montana and North Dakota. And let's face it,
someties a heavy snow actually does shut down Buffalo.

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Hatunen wrote:


At the eastern end of Lake Erie around Buffalo they really get a lot of
snow dumped on them. All it does is slow people down a bit. They can get a
foot or two of snow overnight and the roads will be open and everything
keeps running. In other places they aren't bright enough to invest in a few
sanders and snow plows and an inch of snow is a disaster. That's like
getting flooded out in a light rain because you don't have a roof on your
house.


I'm quite familiar with the lake effect snow in Buffalo. There's
a biiig diffrence between a built up area like Buffalo and the
wide open spaces of Montana and North Dakota. And let's face it,
someties a heavy snow actually does shut down Buffalo.


Yes. Once in a while it does happen. What is interesting is that it usually is
the result of 20-30 times more snow to shut down that city than it would some
other places. I saw news reports of "winter storms" in the US midwest thing
winter that didn't even look like winter. It would take about 3 feet of snow to
have the same effect on Buffalo.


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Dave Smith wrote:

Hatunen wrote:


At the eastern end of Lake Erie around Buffalo they really get a lot of
snow dumped on them. All it does is slow people down a bit. They can get a
foot or two of snow overnight and the roads will be open and everything
keeps running. In other places they aren't bright enough to invest in a few
sanders and snow plows and an inch of snow is a disaster. That's like
getting flooded out in a light rain because you don't have a roof on your
house.


I'm quite familiar with the lake effect snow in Buffalo. There's
a biiig diffrence between a built up area like Buffalo and the
wide open spaces of Montana and North Dakota. And let's face it,
someties a heavy snow actually does shut down Buffalo.



Yes. Once in a while it does happen. What is interesting is that it usually is
the result of 20-30 times more snow to shut down that city than it would some
other places. I saw news reports of "winter storms" in the US midwest thing
winter that didn't even look like winter. It would take about 3 feet of snow to
have the same effect on Buffalo.




The problem out on the planes is that there is little to keep the snow
from blowing. Anything that sticks up may generate a large pile even if
the total fall is moderate.



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