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wrote:
It has appeared on mine (Demon) too in the last week
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Do you see any of Brian's posts in it (or anyone else's, for
that matter)?
If so, what is the most recent post you see in the group?

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--
Aidan Karley, FGS
Aberdeen, Scotland
Message written at Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:34 GMT, now I'm back
on shore.

Thanks Aiden. I'm going to have to report this to my ISP, because I'm not
getting any messages through except my own.

George

Weatherlawyer wrote:

This one has finally produced an anticyclone: Dec 12 14:32
So this one: Dec 20 14:01, is likely to grow into one of the sunniest
spells of the month, except that anticyclonic weather is cold at night
it would add to the statistics beloved of metofficers everywhere,
record temperatures.

Dec 27th's spell at 14:48, is likely to provide quite a bit of thunder
all else being equal, so to speak:

On the 31st of December, the declination of the moon is around the 23
degrees north. Counterbalancing the angle of the sun.

That could do it. I'm not saying it will of course. I'm just happy the
typhoons have blown out for the moment.

Time to start preparing next years hurricane forecasts.

It looks like this week's phase, that is remarkably similar to that of
the 20th December, is another bust. Bear in mind we did have some
thunder as mooted and even got one or two tornadoes, so this unsettled
or "weak" spell is anyone's guess.
The MetO looks like it knows what it is doing, despite several lurid
reports of national disaster in the red press.

So that means more supercyclones in the tropics.

Does It?

I feel there is some potential he
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_all.php
What structural forces may have been dissipated with a few mag 6
pluses, has had to make do with 5.2s and 3s (one 5.7 at best.)

And of course no shortage of vulcanicity.

Count LeChance VonShnaps wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
oups.com...
I just noticed this run:
Nov 28 06:29 Dec 5 00:25 Dec 12 14:32
http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclips...hases2001.html

For the unwashed this is the code:

(I have to repeat this every so often as the more knowledgeable among
you tend to lack insight and find the idea of new ideas far from
ideal.)

OK, the wet weather in the NW Atlantic basin occurs off the UK with a
Low at the appropriate longitude and latitude off Iceland or points
south to Spain. Where the Low is is governed by the harmonic set up by
the astrometry that also times the phases of the moon.

And for the above appears to be when the phase is around 1:30 am or pm.
A little earlier and the weather is still wet but not so intense. A
little earlier still it is more like drizzle or mist, and yet earlier
still and it is fine.

The code goes roughly like this:

5 am or pm and it is anticyclonic.
1:30 am or pm very wet.
6 or 12 am or pm misty.

And this run of spells is for misty. Or rather they all just miss that
spell by 30 minutes. (Well last weeks and this weeks does. !4:32 is
more like an hour out. Except it is a weak spell in my not
inconsiderable opinion.)

Looks interesting is what I mean. What it is is something like half way
to another severe typhoon and the typhoons seem to drag with them a
series of large mag quakes. If that happens, the cyclones in the North
Atlantic will go north again and not break on Norway and dissipate. A
situation akin to a negative NAO.

So we have two half past misties and a half way to thunder coming up.

I would like to stay up and discuss this further but one has work on
the morrow and thus needs to retire and cogitate as there is no longer
time to do the thing properly and vegetate.


One must always allow time to vegetate although I hardly consider feeding
the mind a waste of time. I have learned more on the internet over the past
10 years about weather, history and many other subjects than I did attending
college and obtaining a degree, including all school prior to that. I would
have liked to gone into meteorology but the classes required to become a
true meteorologist are not something I would have enjoyed in the least, in
fact, I would have hated most of them. Ironically, I find weather to be the
most interesting of all my hobies, it's unfortunate that so much **** is
involved and one must learn so much useless drivel to become a
meteorologist. I am convinced that with a 3 month training course, I could
do the job as well as or better than many of those clowns I see on TV every
night, it's the guys behind the scene that have the tough job. If an
individual has internet access, there is simply no reason to pay any
attention to the local weather man as the NOAA forcast discussions go well
beyond anything that is convered on TV. In short, the Weather Channel is a
joke, although their storm stories can be interesting.

Speaking of the UK, what is the single worst storm you recall? It seems
that UK weather, for lack of a better word, is quite boring. I mean, that's
certainly not a bad thing but it seems rather predictable, where as the
Upper Midwest, where I grew up, is quite the opposite. I mean, the highest
point in England in just shy of 1,000 meters so I can't imagine the
topograhy plays a big role and you are too close to the ocean to receive any
severe winter weather. You are too far north to get what would be
considered a bad tropical cyclone.

I feel fortunate that I grew up in an area where we experienced all kinds of
weather, from blistering heat during the summer, as high as 40+ centigrade
to bitter cold, -45 centigrade. Not to mention the severe thunderstorms
during the summer which are the result of being close enough to Canada to
get the occasional shot of cold air, even in late June. The real severe
weather season starts in March though, I've seen temps of 30 degrees
centigrade on March 30th followed by terrible blizzards, no more than 2 or 3
days later. You get everything in the Upper Midwest, except Hurricanes of
course and I can certainly do without those! Only a complete buffoon would
want to experience a hurricane and we've seen plenty of those here in the
states, some of them have traded their large egos for their lives.

This might be an interesting link for you, learning what a harsh climate is
all about. The other side to this is I've been to London in July and found
the weather to be absolutely wondeful, temps in the low 20's, no wind and a
nice soft breeze. Something you normally don't get where I live in July! I
am in Kentucky now and the average high temperature in July is 31 degrees
with humidity levels around 50 percent, on a good day. On a bad day, 40
degrees with humidity levels in the 70's. As for British weather in the
winter, it stinks. I wouldn't mind your summers though, even all the
overcast days would be better than the heat!


http://climate.umn.edu/doc/historical/winter_storms.htm

I believe the UK to be one of the most interesting places on the planet
to study the weather. It is certainly the most beneficial for all
interested parties including eccentrics such as myself.

Not that the USA is short of them having no few with the ability to be
struck by lightning and stirring the nation up in arms about aliens and
flying saucers.

Your records such as they were in those days starting with that storm
of 1830 for example, has a marked similarity to what can be found in
the records of the UK. Of course since we were colonised considerably
earlier, they go back considerably further.

Of course had you paid more attention to the lore of the people you
exterminated...

But who can say aught about that now?

The UK is like the North American continent writ small. Although the
database due to blockades by it's warships has made it a master of the
Atlantic.

Where you have a massive data base examining a wide field of study, we
have very small meteorological regions exhibiting the same effects. Of
course whilst it does mean that any knowledge gained from such studies
is fruitful, the chances of them occurring during a time set by some
college course to study them could well relegate it to the province of
the amateur.

But here are plenty of them and few reports of spacemen to go with
them.

Now both countries have a massive infrastructure capable of serving the
planet and it does, as far as the internet extends to them. But sifting
out the duds form the good stuff can be a bore.

You get to recognise those whose input is negative and those who are
mere copy and pasters and those who have insight. And those who you
wish to follow.

And those you get tired of PDQ.

Now down to our respective physics.

Yes there are few large hills and nothing worth note that we call
mountains. But what we do have has some notable weather effects here is
one example:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...37e6df8 f45cd

What makes the UK special as far as I am concerned is that almost all
of the phases of the moon answer to it, or do I mean that the other way
around?

I get the impression that fairly few parts of the USA that respond to
all of them. And those phases inducing the strongest/most remarkable
effects are restricted to few of them; though there again they react
large.

Take Florida for example. When due to a run of similar phases, the
spell in Britain is a long wet one, Florida too will have some regions
that are rather damp.

On the other hand parts of California would be experiencing phenomenal
heat -even drought, for those same spells and almost invariably just
before the spells end, wildfires.

YMWV.

I can't recall any single storm. A chapel a mile up the street from me
had its roof lifted off when I was sleeping one time. Another occasion
I saw a singularly smelly red tide.

I don't remember uch about the storm that washed out the sea wall that
caused the flods I do remember. As far as I know it wasn't that much
different form the usual run.

Perhaps the swell was at just the right angle in just the rght harmonic
for just the rightr amount of time to do the damage.

Some of the carpenters working for the firm I was with about then were
working the beach shelters on the sea front when the tide came in and
washed over all their tools. I missed that one too.

The lad I worked with was driving the firm's van at the time. When he
got back to them the tide had turned and all the lads were gathered on
the embankment opposite on the promenade where they were working.

Just sitting there stunned apparently.

But boring? I suppose it was just one of those "you had to be there"
moments. That prom is always a good place to be in a swell, as the
waves smash into the wall and throw pebbles over it. Quite a lot of
debris gets left there on occasion.

Count LeChance VonShnaps wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
oups.com...
I just noticed this run:
Nov 28 06:29 Dec 5 00:25 Dec 12 14:32
http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclips...hases2001.html

For the unwashed this is the code:

(I have to repeat this every so often as the more knowledgeable among
you tend to lack insight and find the idea of new ideas far from
ideal.)

OK, the wet weather in the NW Atlantic basin occurs off the UK with a
Low at the appropriate longitude and latitude off Iceland or points
south to Spain. Where the Low is is governed by the harmonic set up by
the astrometry that also times the phases of the moon.

And for the above appears to be when the phase is around 1:30 am or pm.
A little earlier and the weather is still wet but not so intense. A
little earlier still it is more like drizzle or mist, and yet earlier
still and it is fine.

The code goes roughly like this:

5 am or pm and it is anticyclonic.
1:30 am or pm very wet.
6 or 12 am or pm misty.

And this run of spells is for misty. Or rather they all just miss that
spell by 30 minutes. (Well last weeks and this weeks does. !4:32 is
more like an hour out. Except it is a weak spell in my not
inconsiderable opinion.)

Looks interesting is what I mean. What it is is something like half way
to another severe typhoon and the typhoons seem to drag with them a
series of large mag quakes. If that happens, the cyclones in the North
Atlantic will go north again and not break on Norway and dissipate. A
situation akin to a negative NAO.

So we have two half past misties and a half way to thunder coming up.

I would like to stay up and discuss this further but one has work on
the morrow and thus needs to retire and cogitate as there is no longer
time to do the thing properly and vegetate.


One must always allow time to vegetate although I hardly consider feeding
the mind a waste of time. I have learned more on the internet over the past
10 years about weather, history and many other subjects than I did attending
college and obtaining a degree, including all school prior to that. I would
have liked to gone into meteorology but the classes required to become a
true meteorologist are not something I would have enjoyed in the least, in
fact, I would have hated most of them. Ironically, I find weather to be the
most interesting of all my hobies, it's unfortunate that so much **** is
involved and one must learn so much useless drivel to become a
meteorologist. I am convinced that with a 3 month training course, I could
do the job as well as or better than many of those clowns I see on TV every
night, it's the guys behind the scene that have the tough job. If an
individual has internet access, there is simply no reason to pay any
attention to the local weather man as the NOAA forcast discussions go well
beyond anything that is convered on TV. In short, the Weather Channel is a
joke, although their storm stories can be interesting.

Speaking of the UK, what is the single worst storm you recall? It seems
that UK weather, for lack of a better word, is quite boring. I mean, that's
certainly not a bad thing but it seems rather predictable, where as the
Upper Midwest, where I grew up, is quite the opposite. I mean, the highest
point in England in just shy of 1,000 meters so I can't imagine the
topograhy plays a big role and you are too close to the ocean to receive any
severe winter weather. You are too far north to get what would be
considered a bad tropical cyclone.

I feel fortunate that I grew up in an area where we experienced all kinds of
weather, from blistering heat during the summer, as high as 40+ centigrade
to bitter cold, -45 centigrade. Not to mention the severe thunderstorms
during the summer which are the result of being close enough to Canada to
get the occasional shot of cold air, even in late June. The real severe
weather season starts in March though, I've seen temps of 30 degrees
centigrade on March 30th followed by terrible blizzards, no more than 2 or 3
days later. You get everything in the Upper Midwest, except Hurricanes of
course and I can certainly do without those! Only a complete buffoon would
want to experience a hurricane and we've seen plenty of those here in the
states, some of them have traded their large egos for their lives.

This might be an interesting link for you, learning what a harsh climate is
all about. The other side to this is I've been to London in July and found
the weather to be absolutely wondeful, temps in the low 20's, no wind and a
nice soft breeze. Something you normally don't get where I live in July! I
am in Kentucky now and the average high temperature in July is 31 degrees
with humidity levels around 50 percent, on a good day. On a bad day, 40
degrees with humidity levels in the 70's. As for British weather in the
winter, it stinks. I wouldn't mind your summers though, even all the
overcast days would be better than the heat!


http://climate.umn.edu/doc/historical/winter_storms.htm

I believe the UK to be one of the most interesting places on the planet
to study the weather. It is certainly the most beneficial for all
interested parties including eccentrics such as myself.

Not that the USA is short of them having no few with the ability to be
struck by lightning and stir the nation up in arms about aliens and
flying saucers.

Your records such as they were in those days starting with that storm
of 1830 for example, has a marked similarity to what can be found in
the records of the UK. Of course since we were colonised considerably
earlier, they go back considerably further.

....had you paid more attention to the lore of the people you
exterminated...

But who can say aught about that now?

The UK is like the North American continent writ small. Although the
database due to blockades by it's empire's warships has made it a
master of the Atlantic.

Where you have a massive data base examining a wide field of study, we
have very small meteorological regions exhibiting the same effects. Of
course whilst it does mean that any knowledge gained from such studies
is fruitful, the chances of them occurring during a time set by some
college course to study them could well relegate it to the province of
the amateur.

But here are plenty of them and few reports of spacemen to go with
them.

Now both countries have a massive infrastructure capable of serving the
planet and it does, as far as the internet extends to them. But sifting
out the duds form the good stuff can be a bore.

You get to recognise those whose input is negative and those who are
mere copy and pasters and those who have insight. And those who you
wish to follow.

And those you get tired of PDQ.

Now down to our respective physics.

Yes there are few large hills and nothing worth note that we call
mountains. But what we do have has some notable weather effects. Here
is one example:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...37e6df8 f45cd

What makes the UK special as far as I am concerned is that almost all
of the phases of the moon answer to it, or do I mean that the other way
around?

I get the impression that fairly few parts of the USA that respond to
all of them. And those phases inducing the strongest/most remarkable
effects are restricted to few of them; though there again they react
large.

Take Florida for example. When due to a run of similar phases, the
spell in Britain is a long wet one, Florida too will have some regions
that are rather damp.

On the other hand parts of California would be experiencing phenomenal
heat -even drought, for those same spells and almost invariably just
before the spells end, wildfires.

YMWV.

I can't recall any single storm. A chapel a mile up the street from me
had its roof lifted off when I was sleeping one time. Another occasion
I saw a singularly smelly red tide.

I don't remember much about the storm that washed out the sea wall that
caused the floods I do remember. As far as I know it wasn't that much
different form the usual run.

Perhaps the swell was at just the right angle in just the right
harmonic for just the right amount of time to do the damage.

Some of the carpenters working for the firm I was with about then were
working the beach shelters on the sea front when the tide came in and
washed over all their tools. I missed that one too.

The lad I worked with was driving the firm's van at the time. When he
got back to them the tide had turned and all the lads were gathered on
the embankment opposite on the promenade where they were working.

Just sitting there stunned apparently.

But boring? I suppose it was just one of those "you had to be there"
moments. That prom is always a good place to be in a swell, as the
waves can smash into the wall and throw pebbles over it. Quite a lot of
debris gets left there on occasion.

"Count LeChance VonShnaps" wrote in message
...

all the overcast days would be better than the heat!


http://climate.umn.edu/doc/historical/winter_storms.htm

Hey Asshole (Weather Dork) why don't you read my thread, you might learn a
thing or two about real weather.

He upset me, calling British weather boring! It's a great way to start a
conversation over here as we all like to talk about it as we cannot cope
with extremes.

I got caught in "The Fog" on the 21st December having to rebook again and
again and go three times round the security checks in Edinburgh when trying
to get to London City Airport, finally being rescued by an international
Boing 777 which managed to get through to Gatwick. Six or more intrepid
British wheelchair travellers went first class and I met lots of interesting
people.

Boring indeed!

Happy New Year.

Fizz
BTW London City Airport to Edinburgh flight is great. Only six passengers
on return and I actually had to chase my case as it got to the carousel
before me!

Some fool wrote:

Hey Asshole (Weather Dork) why don't you read my thread, you might learn a
thing or two about real weather.

I can't imagine why whomever you are referring to might want to read
anything by you you cheap little boy.

I got caught in "The Fog" on the 21st December.

You obviously don't know that much about the weather here.

Getting back to the OP's post (not included here) he made some
reference to the heat island effect IIRC.

Supposing that each car is a 12 or a 2.4 litre engined vehicle; that
means that in a couple or four revolutions it has ingested something
like a gallon of air.

In a large city, at peak motoring times that means a considerable
number of vehicles are recycling used air. All of this is superheated
at some point -maybe several times. And that's not counting the 37 or
so degrees Centigrade that each pedestrian leaves it at when they have
finished with it.

Most of the rest of the time most of the rest of the inhabitants of a
city are insensible to the conditions in the open.

"Count LeChance VonShnaps" wrote in message
...

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
oups.com...
I just noticed this run:
Nov 28 06:29 Dec 5 00:25 Dec 12 14:32
http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclips...hases2001.html

For the unwashed this is the code:

(I have to repeat this every so often as the more knowledgeable among
you tend to lack insight and find the idea of new ideas far from
ideal.)

OK, the wet weather in the NW Atlantic basin occurs off the UK with a
Low at the appropriate longitude and latitude off Iceland or points
south to Spain. Where the Low is is governed by the harmonic set up by
the astrometry that also times the phases of the moon.

And for the above appears to be when the phase is around 1:30 am or pm.
A little earlier and the weather is still wet but not so intense. A
little earlier still it is more like drizzle or mist, and yet earlier
still and it is fine.

The code goes roughly like this:

5 am or pm and it is anticyclonic.
1:30 am or pm very wet.
6 or 12 am or pm misty.

And this run of spells is for misty. Or rather they all just miss that
spell by 30 minutes. (Well last weeks and this weeks does. !4:32 is
more like an hour out. Except it is a weak spell in my not
inconsiderable opinion.)

Looks interesting is what I mean. What it is is something like half way
to another severe typhoon and the typhoons seem to drag with them a
series of large mag quakes. If that happens, the cyclones in the North
Atlantic will go north again and not break on Norway and dissipate. A
situation akin to a negative NAO.

So we have two half past misties and a half way to thunder coming up.

I would like to stay up and discuss this further but one has work on
the morrow and thus needs to retire and cogitate as there is no longer
time to do the thing properly and vegetate.


One must always allow time to vegetate although I hardly consider feeding
the mind a waste of time. I have learned more on the internet over the
past 10 years about weather, history and many other subjects than I did
attending college and obtaining a degree, including all school prior to
that. I would have liked to gone into meteorology but the classes
required to become a true meteorologist are not something I would have
enjoyed in the least, in fact, I would have hated most of them.
Ironically, I find weather to be the most interesting of all my hobies,
it's unfortunate that so much **** is involved and one must learn so much
useless drivel to become a meteorologist. I am convinced that with a 3
month training course, I could do the job as well as or better than many
of those clowns I see on TV every night, it's the guys behind the scene
that have the tough job. If an individual has internet access, there is
simply no reason to pay any attention to the local weather man as the NOAA
forcast discussions go well beyond anything that is convered on TV. In
short, the Weather Channel is a joke, although their storm stories can be
interesting.

Speaking of the UK, what is the single worst storm you recall? It seems
that UK weather, for lack of a better word, is quite boring. I mean,
that's certainly not a bad thing but it seems rather predictable, where as
the Upper Midwest, where I grew up, is quite the opposite. I mean, the
highest point in England in just shy of 1,000 meters so I can't imagine
the topograhy plays a big role and you are too close to the ocean to
receive any severe winter weather. You are too far north to get what
would be considered a bad tropical cyclone.

I feel fortunate that I grew up in an area where we experienced all kinds
of weather, from blistering heat during the summer, as high as 40+
centigrade to bitter cold, -45 centigrade. Not to mention the severe
thunderstorms during the summer which are the result of being close enough
to Canada to get the occasional shot of cold air, even in late June. The
real severe weather season starts in March though, I've seen temps of 30
degrees centigrade on March 30th followed by terrible blizzards, no more
than 2 or 3 days later. You get everything in the Upper Midwest, except
Hurricanes of course and I can certainly do without those! Only a
complete buffoon would want to experience a hurricane and we've seen
plenty of those here in the states, some of them have traded their large
egos for their lives.

This might be an interesting link for you, learning what a harsh climate
is all about. The other side to this is I've been to London in July and
found the weather to be absolutely wondeful, temps in the low 20's, no
wind and a nice soft breeze. Something you normally don't get where I
live in July! I am in Kentucky now and the average high temperature in
July is 31 degrees with humidity levels around 50 percent, on a good day.
On a bad day, 40 degrees with humidity levels in the 70's. As for British
weather in the winter, it stinks. I wouldn't mind your summers though,
even all the overcast days would be better than the heat!


http://climate.umn.edu/doc/historical/winter_storms.htm

Hey Asshole (Weather Dork) why don't you read my thread, you might learn a
thing or two about real weather.



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