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24th November 14:30


This could be the site of note for this coming spell:
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/

Of course there are other countries in the world that suffer from
tornadoes. It's just that the USA is particularly well endowed with
them and with such freebies as above

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On Nov 23, 3:31 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
24th November 14:30

This could be the site of note for this coming spell:http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/

Of course there are other countries in the world that suffer from
tornadoes. It's just that the USA is particularly well endowed with
them and with such freebies as above.


Oh oh!

If Bongwe doesn't petre out for this spell I am not going to be an
happy chappie:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/south-i...bulletins.html

I forsee a bad moon rising. Aaaawwh baaaad.

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Well here we are then.

I have to admit things have made a nice start. I believe that this is
due to Mitag, which at the moment is a Cat 2 (almost 3) storm on the
Saffir Simpson scale.

Western North Pacific area (180 to Malay peninsula):

Hagibis) was located near 11.7 N. 110.9 E., approximately 100 nautical
miles ESE of Nha Trang, VietNam. Maximum SSW were estimated at 75
knots gusting to 90 knots.

Mitag was located near 13.6 N. 126.5 E., approximately 325 nautical
miles E of Manila, Philippines, Maximum SSW were estimated at 95 knots
gusting to 115 knots.

So as long as that situation persists, means that the spell is
(ah...hem...) errrmm..
22:30.

If you are following this from the alt.support.arthritis newsgroup,
you'll not be aware how squeamish I was admitting that...

But then, you will soon catch on, or not as the case may be.
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On Nov 24, 2:07 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

I have to admit things have made a nice start. I believe that this is
due to Mitag, which at the moment is a Cat 2 (almost 3) storm on the
Saffir Simpson scale.

Western North Pacific area (180 to Malay peninsula):


The forecast on he
http://www.hurricanezone.net/tcgraphics/wp2407.gif
reads:
24th = 85 knots.
25th = 90 then 85 knots.
26th = 70 then 60
27th = 40 knots.
28th = 30 knots and
29th = 25 knots.

We are experiencing drizzle here and not the forecast cold.
It will be interesting to see when the quake that occurs at its demise
comes. They are in the 5 ro 5.5 range ATM.

So as long as that situation persists, it means that the spell is 22:30.


I worked out that a point of 1 Saffir Simpson force or category
changes the value that I give each spell (according to the time of its
phase) is something like an half hour to an hour difference.

I can't remember which thread it was but it wasn't long ago.

Yesterday: Maximum SSW were estimated at 95 knots so it's dropped 5
knots and got wetter. A bit of algebra he

23:00 means a fine spell and 22:00 an indeterminate one. But 21:00 is
a thundery spell (not that different from 03:00 which is similar to
the true time of the phase -see title.)

So it is moving toward the wet end of the spectrum.

Of course YMMV. ...Will vary. But the tenet will still hold true.

Some small twinges of cramp noted.

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On Nov 24, 3:38 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

The forecast for Mitag read:

24th = 85 knots.
25th = 90 then 85 knots.
26th = 70 then 60
27th = 40 knots.
28th = 30 knots and
29th = 25 knots.

We are experiencing drizzle here and not the forecast cold.
It will be interesting to see when the quake that occurs at its demise
comes. They are in the 5 ro 5.5 range ATM.

Yesterday: Maximum SSW were estimated at 95 knots so it's dropped 5
knots.

So it is moving toward the wet end of the spectrum.


Global weather models will show a breakdown as all the storms
currently extant fall apart. If you care to peruse uk.sci.weather, one
or two threads are actually spotting it. (Local models and the ones
with the least human input to correct them will continue to show a
more stable progression.)

2007/11/25
Another Mag. 6.1 quake has struck the same region as the one a few
days back.
2.9 S., 100.9E., Kepulauan Mentawai region, Indonesia: That will have
been the demise of Bongwe no doubt.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/.../10/100_-5.php
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...ps/10/95_5.php


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On Nov 25, 10:44 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Nov 24, 3:38 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

The forecast for Mitag read:

24th = 85 knots.
25th = 90 then 85 knots.
26th = 70 then 60
27th = 40 knots.
28th = 30 knots and
29th = 25 knots.


We are experiencing drizzle here and not the forecast cold.
It will be interesting to see when the quake that occurs at its demise
comes. They are in the 5 ro 5.5 range ATM.


Yesterday: Maximum SSW were estimated at 95 knots so it's dropped 5
knots.


So it is moving toward the wet end of the spectrum.


Global weather models will show a breakdown as all the storms
currently extant fall apart. If you care to peruse uk.sci.weather, one
or two threads are actually spotting it. (Local models and the ones
with the least human input to correct them will continue to show a
more stable progression.)

2007/11/25
Another Mag. 6.1 quake has struck the same region as the one a few
days back.
2.9 S., 100.9E., Kepulauan Mentawai region, Indonesia: That will have
been the demise of Bongwe no doubt.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...ps/10/95_5.php


New anti-hurricane technology

PCT/SK2006/000003 (WO/2006/085830) A METHOD OF AND A DEVICE FOR THE
REDUCTION OF TROPICAL CYCLONES DESTRUCTIVE FORCE
documents - http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006085830

THE INVENTION relates to a method of suppressing the tropical
cyclones' destructive force characterised in that the ascendant speed
of wind in a tropical cyclone's eyewall is reduced by sea water pumped
on-site from under the sea surface above the sea surface and diffused
in the wind at the bottom of such tropical cyclone in/near its
eyewall. The invention also describes a facility for the application
of said method.
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On Nov 25, 10:22 am, antihurricane wrote:

New anti-hurricane technology


This dckweed is incapable of starting his own thread in order to
promulgate spam. Evidently his research has failed to inform him
anything of Nettiquette.
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Now there are three. None of them especially powerful but obviously
they are in concert, able to change the spell from cold, clear and
frosty to warm, thick gloom

abpw10 pgtw 262300
msgid/genadmin/navpacmetoccen pearl harbor hi/jtwc//
subj/significant tropical weather advisory for the western and
/south pacific oceans reissued/262300z-270600znov2007//
ref/a/msg/navpacmetoccen pearl harbor hi/261951znov2007//
ref/b/msg/navpacmetoccen pearl harbor hi/261952znov2007//
ref/c/msg/navpacmetoccen pearl harbor hi/261953znov2007//
narr/refs a, b and c are tropical cyclone warnings.//
rmks/
1. western north pacific area (180 to malay peninsula):
a. tropical cyclone summary:
(1) at 261800z, tropical depression 23w (hagibis) was located
near 11.8n 118.0e, approximately 240 nm southwest of manila
philippines, and had tracked eastward at 12 knots over the past six
hours. maximum sustained surface winds were estimated at 25 knots
gusting to 35 knots. see ref a (wtpn31 pgtw 262100) for further
details.
(2) at 261800z, tropical storm 24w (mitag) was located near
21.1n 121.0e, approximately 95 nm south-southeast of kaohsiung
taiwan, and had tracked north-northeastward at 09 knots over the
past six hours. maximum sustained surface winds were estimated at 55
knots gusting to 70 knots. see ref b (wtpn32 pgtw 262100) for
further details.
(3) at 261800z, tropical depression 25w was located near 17.0n
130.5e, approximately 575 nm south-southeast of naha okinawa, and
had tracked northwestward at 13 knots over the past six hours.
maximum sustained surface winds were estimated at 25 knots gusting
to 35 knots. see ref c (wtpn33 pgtw 262100) for further details.
(4) no other tropical cyclones.
b. tropical disturbance summary:
(1) the area of convection previously located near 7.5n
142.5e, is now located near 10.1n 139.1e, approximately 70 nm east-
northeast of yap island. animated infrared satellite imagery depicts
poorly-organized deep convection. a 261907z amsu image depicted
developing (but weak) convective banding over the western semi-
circle supporting the current position of the low-level circulation
center (llcc). surface observations from yap (914130) indicate
sustained northwesterly winds at 12-15 knots and slp near 1003.5 mb
with noteworthy 24-hour pressure falls of about 5 mb. overall, the
environment is favorable with a developing anticyclone north of the
center and weak to moderate vertical wind shear. maximum sustained
surface winds are estimated at 15 to 20 knots. minimum sea level
pressure is estimated to be near 1003 mb. the potential for the
development of a significant tropical cyclone within the next 24
hours remains fair.
(2) no other suspect areas.
2. south pacific area (west coast of south america to 135 east):
a. tropical cyclone summary: none.
b. tropical disturbance summary: none.
3. justification for reissue: upgraded area in para 1.a.(3) to
warning status and updated fair area in para 1.b.(1).
forecast team: bravo//

http://205.85.40.22/jtwc/ab/abpwweb.txt

If the alternative is serious quakes again, then the global weather
models will start to fall apart. No matter how your mileage varies,
this will show up at a weather centre near you.
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On Nov 25, 10:53 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Nov 25, 10:22 am, antihurricane wrote:

New anti-hurricane technology


This dckweed is incapable of starting his own thread in order to
promulgate spam. Evidently his research has failed to inform him
anything of Nettiquette.


He may even be genuine:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=who...ient=firefox-a

I gather he or she is Slovakian. I don't know what to make of that. I
posted something about Thomas Gold on sci.geo.earthquakes some time
back and drew a lot of fire from people more knowledgeable than I
about how Prof Gold had stolen his ideas from the Ruskis.

Not one of his detractors realised they were crediting the basic
science involved. Russian science is pretty good. In fact in all of
the communist states, schooling was very good.

I wonder what went wrong.

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On Nov 27, 1:41 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Now there are three. None of them especially powerful but obviously
they are in concert, able to change the spell from cold, clear and
frosty to warm, thick gloom


Oh man, I screwed that up.

This afternoon about 3-ish I saw a massive cloud that reminded me that
this spell is supposed to produce long billows of piscene black
clouds. This spell is what it would be if super-typhoons and their ilk
were not present.

They aren't:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/

Several earthquakes are due, especially in the South Pacific and
Indian Ocean border:
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/FM/
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php


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