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24th November 14:30
This could be the site of note for this coming spell: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ Of course there are other countries in the world that suffer from tornadoes. It's just that the USA is particularly well endowed with them and with such freebies as above |
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On Nov 23, 3:31 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
24th November 14:30 This could be the site of note for this coming spell:http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ Of course there are other countries in the world that suffer from tornadoes. It's just that the USA is particularly well endowed with them and with such freebies as above. Oh oh! If Bongwe doesn't petre out for this spell I am not going to be an happy chappie: http://www.hurricanezone.net/south-i...bulletins.html I forsee a bad moon rising. Aaaawwh baaaad. |
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Well here we are then.
I have to admit things have made a nice start. I believe that this is due to Mitag, which at the moment is a Cat 2 (almost 3) storm on the Saffir Simpson scale. Western North Pacific area (180 to Malay peninsula): Hagibis) was located near 11.7 N. 110.9 E., approximately 100 nautical miles ESE of Nha Trang, VietNam. Maximum SSW were estimated at 75 knots gusting to 90 knots. Mitag was located near 13.6 N. 126.5 E., approximately 325 nautical miles E of Manila, Philippines, Maximum SSW were estimated at 95 knots gusting to 115 knots. So as long as that situation persists, means that the spell is (ah...hem...) errrmm.. 22:30. If you are following this from the alt.support.arthritis newsgroup, you'll not be aware how squeamish I was admitting that... But then, you will soon catch on, or not as the case may be. |
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On Nov 24, 2:07 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
I have to admit things have made a nice start. I believe that this is due to Mitag, which at the moment is a Cat 2 (almost 3) storm on the Saffir Simpson scale. Western North Pacific area (180 to Malay peninsula): The forecast on he http://www.hurricanezone.net/tcgraphics/wp2407.gif reads: 24th = 85 knots. 25th = 90 then 85 knots. 26th = 70 then 60 27th = 40 knots. 28th = 30 knots and 29th = 25 knots. We are experiencing drizzle here and not the forecast cold. It will be interesting to see when the quake that occurs at its demise comes. They are in the 5 ro 5.5 range ATM. So as long as that situation persists, it means that the spell is 22:30. I worked out that a point of 1 Saffir Simpson force or category changes the value that I give each spell (according to the time of its phase) is something like an half hour to an hour difference. I can't remember which thread it was but it wasn't long ago. Yesterday: Maximum SSW were estimated at 95 knots so it's dropped 5 knots and got wetter. A bit of algebra he 23:00 means a fine spell and 22:00 an indeterminate one. But 21:00 is a thundery spell (not that different from 03:00 which is similar to the true time of the phase -see title.) So it is moving toward the wet end of the spectrum. Of course YMMV. ...Will vary. But the tenet will still hold true. Some small twinges of cramp noted. |
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On Nov 24, 3:38 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
The forecast for Mitag read: 24th = 85 knots. 25th = 90 then 85 knots. 26th = 70 then 60 27th = 40 knots. 28th = 30 knots and 29th = 25 knots. We are experiencing drizzle here and not the forecast cold. It will be interesting to see when the quake that occurs at its demise comes. They are in the 5 ro 5.5 range ATM. Yesterday: Maximum SSW were estimated at 95 knots so it's dropped 5 knots. So it is moving toward the wet end of the spectrum. Global weather models will show a breakdown as all the storms currently extant fall apart. If you care to peruse uk.sci.weather, one or two threads are actually spotting it. (Local models and the ones with the least human input to correct them will continue to show a more stable progression.) 2007/11/25 Another Mag. 6.1 quake has struck the same region as the one a few days back. 2.9 S., 100.9E., Kepulauan Mentawai region, Indonesia: That will have been the demise of Bongwe no doubt. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/.../10/100_-5.php http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...ps/10/95_5.php |
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On Nov 25, 10:44 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Nov 24, 3:38 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote: The forecast for Mitag read: 24th = 85 knots. 25th = 90 then 85 knots. 26th = 70 then 60 27th = 40 knots. 28th = 30 knots and 29th = 25 knots. We are experiencing drizzle here and not the forecast cold. It will be interesting to see when the quake that occurs at its demise comes. They are in the 5 ro 5.5 range ATM. Yesterday: Maximum SSW were estimated at 95 knots so it's dropped 5 knots. So it is moving toward the wet end of the spectrum. Global weather models will show a breakdown as all the storms currently extant fall apart. If you care to peruse uk.sci.weather, one or two threads are actually spotting it. (Local models and the ones with the least human input to correct them will continue to show a more stable progression.) 2007/11/25 Another Mag. 6.1 quake has struck the same region as the one a few days back. 2.9 S., 100.9E., Kepulauan Mentawai region, Indonesia: That will have been the demise of Bongwe no doubt. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...ps/10/95_5.php New anti-hurricane technology PCT/SK2006/000003 (WO/2006/085830) A METHOD OF AND A DEVICE FOR THE REDUCTION OF TROPICAL CYCLONES DESTRUCTIVE FORCE documents - http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006085830 THE INVENTION relates to a method of suppressing the tropical cyclones' destructive force characterised in that the ascendant speed of wind in a tropical cyclone's eyewall is reduced by sea water pumped on-site from under the sea surface above the sea surface and diffused in the wind at the bottom of such tropical cyclone in/near its eyewall. The invention also describes a facility for the application of said method. |
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On Nov 25, 10:22 am, antihurricane wrote:
New anti-hurricane technology This dckweed is incapable of starting his own thread in order to promulgate spam. Evidently his research has failed to inform him anything of Nettiquette. |
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Now there are three. None of them especially powerful but obviously
they are in concert, able to change the spell from cold, clear and frosty to warm, thick gloom abpw10 pgtw 262300 msgid/genadmin/navpacmetoccen pearl harbor hi/jtwc// subj/significant tropical weather advisory for the western and /south pacific oceans reissued/262300z-270600znov2007// ref/a/msg/navpacmetoccen pearl harbor hi/261951znov2007// ref/b/msg/navpacmetoccen pearl harbor hi/261952znov2007// ref/c/msg/navpacmetoccen pearl harbor hi/261953znov2007// narr/refs a, b and c are tropical cyclone warnings.// rmks/ 1. western north pacific area (180 to malay peninsula): a. tropical cyclone summary: (1) at 261800z, tropical depression 23w (hagibis) was located near 11.8n 118.0e, approximately 240 nm southwest of manila philippines, and had tracked eastward at 12 knots over the past six hours. maximum sustained surface winds were estimated at 25 knots gusting to 35 knots. see ref a (wtpn31 pgtw 262100) for further details. (2) at 261800z, tropical storm 24w (mitag) was located near 21.1n 121.0e, approximately 95 nm south-southeast of kaohsiung taiwan, and had tracked north-northeastward at 09 knots over the past six hours. maximum sustained surface winds were estimated at 55 knots gusting to 70 knots. see ref b (wtpn32 pgtw 262100) for further details. (3) at 261800z, tropical depression 25w was located near 17.0n 130.5e, approximately 575 nm south-southeast of naha okinawa, and had tracked northwestward at 13 knots over the past six hours. maximum sustained surface winds were estimated at 25 knots gusting to 35 knots. see ref c (wtpn33 pgtw 262100) for further details. (4) no other tropical cyclones. b. tropical disturbance summary: (1) the area of convection previously located near 7.5n 142.5e, is now located near 10.1n 139.1e, approximately 70 nm east- northeast of yap island. animated infrared satellite imagery depicts poorly-organized deep convection. a 261907z amsu image depicted developing (but weak) convective banding over the western semi- circle supporting the current position of the low-level circulation center (llcc). surface observations from yap (914130) indicate sustained northwesterly winds at 12-15 knots and slp near 1003.5 mb with noteworthy 24-hour pressure falls of about 5 mb. overall, the environment is favorable with a developing anticyclone north of the center and weak to moderate vertical wind shear. maximum sustained surface winds are estimated at 15 to 20 knots. minimum sea level pressure is estimated to be near 1003 mb. the potential for the development of a significant tropical cyclone within the next 24 hours remains fair. (2) no other suspect areas. 2. south pacific area (west coast of south america to 135 east): a. tropical cyclone summary: none. b. tropical disturbance summary: none. 3. justification for reissue: upgraded area in para 1.a.(3) to warning status and updated fair area in para 1.b.(1). forecast team: bravo// http://205.85.40.22/jtwc/ab/abpwweb.txt If the alternative is serious quakes again, then the global weather models will start to fall apart. No matter how your mileage varies, this will show up at a weather centre near you. |
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On Nov 25, 10:53 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Nov 25, 10:22 am, antihurricane wrote: New anti-hurricane technology This dckweed is incapable of starting his own thread in order to promulgate spam. Evidently his research has failed to inform him anything of Nettiquette. He may even be genuine: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=who...ient=firefox-a I gather he or she is Slovakian. I don't know what to make of that. I posted something about Thomas Gold on sci.geo.earthquakes some time back and drew a lot of fire from people more knowledgeable than I about how Prof Gold had stolen his ideas from the Ruskis. Not one of his detractors realised they were crediting the basic science involved. Russian science is pretty good. In fact in all of the communist states, schooling was very good. I wonder what went wrong. |
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On Nov 27, 1:41 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Now there are three. None of them especially powerful but obviously they are in concert, able to change the spell from cold, clear and frosty to warm, thick gloom Oh man, I screwed that up. This afternoon about 3-ish I saw a massive cloud that reminded me that this spell is supposed to produce long billows of piscene black clouds. This spell is what it would be if super-typhoons and their ilk were not present. They aren't: http://www.hurricanezone.net/ Several earthquakes are due, especially in the South Pacific and Indian Ocean border: http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/FM/ http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php |