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On Apr 21, 11:28 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:39 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Almost forgot to look what's kookin:
19th April 2008
5.3 M. @14:53; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia.
6.0 M. @10:21; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia.


Always happens at the end of a storm.
How about that?


There is anther pair of matching quakes on tha NEIC list at the
moment:

5.5 M. 2008/04/21 @05:33, 7.1 S. 129.8 E. Kepulauan Barat Daya,
Indonesia.
5.6 M. 2008/04/20 @13:01; 7.8 S.125.7 E. Kepulauan Barat Daya,
Indonesia.


Looks like this spate of quakes has taken over from the spate in the
Loyalty Islands that stopped dead on the 12th:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/125_-10.php
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/170_-20.php

45 degrees apart, that little lot. Not that I can explain any
rational.


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On Apr 21, 4:19 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Apr 21, 11:28 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:



On Apr 21, 4:39 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


Almost forgot to look what's kookin:
19th April 2008
5.3 M. @14:53; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia.
6.0 M. @10:21; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia.


Always happens at the end of a storm.
How about that?


There is anther pair of matching quakes on tha NEIC list at the
moment:


5.5 M. 2008/04/21 @05:33, 7.1 S. 129.8 E. Kepulauan Barat Daya,
Indonesia.
5.6 M. 2008/04/20 @13:01; 7.8 S.125.7 E. Kepulauan Barat Daya,
Indonesia.


Looks like this spate of quakes has taken over from the spate in the
Loyalty Islands that stopped dead on the 12th:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/170_-20.php


45 degrees apart, that little lot. Not that I can explain any rational.


Furthermore there is that unexplained hiatus between what might be
quite an active seismic situation and the next storm systems:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php

Which link is -at the time of writing, showing no reports of quakes of
5M or more since: 2008/04/21 05:33:37
That is; some 36 hour ago.

There is a tropical storm warning out for Indonesia. However the FNMOC
WXMAP site put that into perspective:

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap_cgi... d=thk&tau=000

The pressure would appear as a mere "col" on UK weather maps, however
TC 28S has wind speeds of 48 knots:
http://205.85.40.22/jtwc/warnings/sh2808.gif

So there you have it. Next spell starts around the 28th. There is a
massive shift with that, I believe.
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On Apr 22, 11:50 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:19 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:



On Apr 21, 11:28 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


On Apr 21, 4:39 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


Almost forgot to look what's kookin:
19th April 2008
5.3 M. @14:53; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia.
6.0 M. @10:21; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia.


Always happens at the end of a storm.
How about that?


There is anther pair of matching quakes on tha NEIC list at the
moment:


5.5 M. 2008/04/21 @05:33, 7.1 S. 129.8 E. Kepulauan Barat Daya,
Indonesia.
5.6 M. 2008/04/20 @13:01; 7.8 S.125.7 E. Kepulauan Barat Daya,
Indonesia.


Looks like this spate of quakes has taken over from the spate in the
Loyalty Islands that stopped dead on the 12th:


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/.../125_-10.phpht...


45 degrees apart, that little lot. Not that I can explain any rational.


Furthermore there is that unexplained hiatus between what might be
quite an active seismic situation and the next storm systems:http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php

Which link is -at the time of writing, showing no reports of quakes of
5M or more since: 2008/04/21 05:33:37
That is; some 36 hour ago.


An opportunity exists with this phenomenon that enables deeper
analysis of the relationship of quakes to fronts:


4.1 08:08 37.268 71.583 Tajikistan
2.5 07:03 37.470 -118.832 central California
2.5 07:02 61.616 -149.965 southern Alaska
3.7 06:41 43.116 -126.561 off the coast of Oregon
2.8 06:32 33.788 -116.102 southern California
3.9 05:35 43.311 -126.444 off the coast of Oregon
4.0 03:58 43.212 -126.223 off the coast of Oregon
2.5 03:46 60.100 -151.850 kenai peninsula, Alaska
4.1 03:17 42.967 -126.748 off the coast of Oreon
4.9 03:09 -4.393 101.046 southern sumatra, Indonesia
4.6 02:10 13.406 146.281 Mariana Islands region
3.0 01:59 59.461 -152.464 southern Alaska
2.5 01:55 64.717 -146.576 central Alaska
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...uakes_all.html

With so few quakes it should be possible to guess which storms they
are related to. Note, there could well be a multiplicity of parts.

There are some excellent graphics on he
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/dynam...atl_gale_0.gif
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/dynam...pac_gale_0.gif
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/dynam...aus_gale_0.gif
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/dynam...ocn_gale_0.gif

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On Apr 22, 12:13 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Apr 22, 11:50 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:



On Apr 21, 4:19 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:


On Apr 21, 11:28 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


On Apr 21, 4:39 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


Almost forgot to look what's kookin:
19th April 2008
5.3 M. @14:53; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia.
6.0 M. @10:21; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia.


Always happens at the end of a storm.
How about that?


There is anther pair of matching quakes on tha NEIC list at the
moment:


5.5 M. 2008/04/21 @05:33, 7.1 S. 129.8 E. Kepulauan Barat Daya,
Indonesia.
5.6 M. 2008/04/20 @13:01; 7.8 S.125.7 E. Kepulauan Barat Daya,
Indonesia.


Looks like this spate of quakes has taken over from the spate in the
Loyalty Islands that stopped dead on the 12th:


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/.../125_-10.phpht...


45 degrees apart, that little lot. Not that I can explain any rational.


Furthermore there is that unexplained hiatus between what might be
quite an active seismic situation and the next storm systems:http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php


Which link is -at the time of writing, showing no reports of quakes of
5M or more since: 2008/04/21 05:33:37
That is; some 36 hour ago.


An opportunity exists with this phenomenon that enables deeper
analysis of the relationship of quakes to fronts:

4.1 08:08 37.268 71.583 Tajikistan
2.5 07:03 37.470 -118.832 central California
2.5 07:02 61.616 -149.965 southern Alaska
3.7 06:41 43.116 -126.561 off the coast of Oregon
2.8 06:32 33.788 -116.102 southern California
3.9 05:35 43.311 -126.444 off the coast of Oregon
4.0 03:58 43.212 -126.223 off the coast of Oregon
2.5 03:46 60.100 -151.850 kenai peninsula, Alaska
4.1 03:17 42.967 -126.748 off the coast of Oreon
4.9 03:09 -4.393 101.046 southern sumatra, Indonesia
4.6 02:10 13.406 146.281 Mariana Islands region
3.0 01:59 59.461 -152.464 southern Alaska
2.5 01:55 64.717 -146.576 central Alaska
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...uakes_all.html

With so few quakes it should be possible to guess which storms they
are related to. Note, there could well be a multiplicity of parts.


The other problem of course is that there are two time sequences to
beware of. First of all, initial data from seismographs is almost
instantaneous. Meteorological data requires collation and analysis as
well as being rigidly time stamped.

And it seems to me that the seismic events follow the storm, that is
they occur as the storm dissipates. (Thereafter, in the absence of
storm fronts, there are sequences of aftersahocks. Some of them much
larger than the initial events and not necessarily in the same place.

(There may be a lot of error in our perception of the phenomenon known
as aftershocks.))

There are some excellent graphics on he

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/dynam....EFS.no_atl_ga...
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/dynam....EFS.no_pac_ga...
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/dynam....EFS.sw_aus_ga...
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/dynam....EFS.no_ind_oc...


I had to prefix the links with as a Google mangles a list of such
links otherwise. I wonder if any character would do as well? Or would
that just become a suffix to the preceding link?
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On Apr 20, 4:46 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Apr 19, 2:26 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

FUD.
Don't be put off by it in any of its forms. What is the worst that
could happen? In 2004, the Boxing Day disaster that started with an
earthquake at Banda Atjeh swept the Indian Ocean as far as Africa.


10 years before, a certain manager in the Indonesian Meteorological
department was removed from office for making a mistake and issuing a
Tsunami alert.


I wonder how the people irresponsible for that catastrophe were
treated? If they sacked a man for not killing hundreds of thousands of
people, what could they possibly have done about those that did?

Funny thing in all the follow ups, there were little or no
recriminations.
I imagine in the good old days when the law demanded and eye for an
eye, they'd round up all their families, even the most distant
relatives, all his friends and their families, all the people they did
business with and all their families and execute all them.

And they'd still have come up short.


Here comes that high again
Filling in the sky like a memory
Filling over-head in the North Pacific
Want to talk about that stalled depression?
Would you rather ignore this session?
Prefer to live in oblivion
Give abrogation to all discussion?
What is it like for you?

http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/analysis/947_50.gif


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Another set of twin cyclones.:
Qhttp://satellite.ehabich.info/hurricane-watch.htm

I wonder what is going on. Is it a more common phenomenon than
previously realised or is there a glitch in the apparatus?

"The Dvorak technique (developed in 1974 by Vernon Dvorak) is a widely
used system to subjectively estimate tropical cyclone intensity based
solely on visible and infrared satellite images.

Several agencies issue Dvorak intensity numbers for cyclones of
sufficient intensity. These include the National Hurricane Center's
Tropical Analysis and Forecast Branch (TAFB), the NOAA/NESDIS
Satellite Analysis Branch (SAB), the Joint Typhoon Warning Center at
the Naval Pacific Meteorology and Oceanography Center in Pearl Harbor,
Hawaii, and the Air Force Weather Agency (AFWA).

In a developing cyclone, the technique takes advantage of the fact
that cyclones of similar intensity tend to have certain characteristic
features, and as they strengthen, they tend to change in appearance in
a predictable manner.

The structure and organization of the tropical cyclone are tracked
over 24 hours to determine if the storm has weakened, maintained its
intensity, or strengthened. Various central cloud and banding features
are compared with templates that show typical storm patterns and their
associated intensity.

If infrared satellite imagery is available for a cyclone with a
visible eye pattern, then the technique utilizes the difference
between the temperature of the warm eye and the surrounding cold cloud
tops to determine intensity (colder cloud tops generally indicate a
more intense storm).

In each case a "T-number" and a Current Intensity (CI) value are
assigned to the storm. These measurements range between 1 (minimum
intensity) and 8 (maximum intensity). The T-number and CI value are
the same except for weakening storms, in which case the CI is higher.

the list shows:
the Dvorak Number, wind speed in Knots; Pressure Millibars and the two
different ocean basins considered: the Atlantic and the North West
Pacific.

1.0 25 ---- ----
2.0 30 1009 1000
2.5 35 1005 997
3.0 45 1000 991
3.5 55 994 984
4.0 65 987 976
4.5 77 979 966
5.0 90 970 954
5.5 102 960 941
6.0 115 948 927
6.5 127 935 914
7.0 140 921 898
7.5 155 906 879
8.0 170 890 858

The National Hurricane Center will often quote Dvorak T-numbers e.g.

DVORAK SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATE OF T2.5/35 KT.

The Cooperative Institute for Meteorological Satellite Studies (CIMSS)
at the University of Wisconsin-Madison has developed the Objective
Dvorak Technique (ODT). This is a modified version of the Dvorak
technique which uses computer algorithms rather than subjective human
interpretation to arrive at a CI number. This is generally not
implemented for tropical depressions or weak tropical storms."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_techniqu"
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The 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens at 08:32. on May 18, was was
preceded by a two-month series of earthquakes and steam-venting
episodes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_er...unt_St._Helens

17 Jan 21:19
24 Jan 13:58
1 Feb 02:21
9 Feb 07:35
16 Feb 08:51
23 Feb 00:14
1 Mar 21:00
9 Mar 23:49
16 Mar 18:56
23 Mar 12:31
31 Mar 15:14
8 Apr 12:06
15 Apr 03:46
22 Apr 02:59
30 Apr 07:35
7 May 20:51
14 May 12:00
21 May 19:16
29 May 21:28
6 Jun 02:53
12 Jun 20:38
20 Jun 12:32
28 Jun 09:02
5 Jul 07:27
12 Jul 06:46
20 Jul 05:51
27 Jul 18:54
3 Aug 12:00
10 Aug 19:09
18 Aug 22:28
26 Aug 03:42
1 Sep 18:08
9 Sep 10:00
17 Sep 13:54
24 Sep 12:08
1 Oct 03:18
9 Oct 02:50
17 Oct 03:47
23 Oct 20:52
30 Oct 16:33
7 Nov 20:43
15 Nov 15:47
22 Nov 06:39
29 Nov 09:59
7 Dec 14:35
15 Dec 01:47
21 Dec 18:08
29 Dec 06:32

The crucial dates are the two phases prior to the eruption on the 18th
May and the phase that broke the spell
May 7 20:51 May 14 12 May 21 19:16.
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phases1901.html
The importance of which are that they reflect a certain similarity to
recent dates and more importantly, times.

I included the whole set of dates and times so that anyone interested
enough can make more comparisons.
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It looks like the Andreanof Islands are kicking off again. Still
nothing over 4.9 M. in two days and more.

I suspect that the large high on the North American eastern seaboard
will bleed slowly into the Atlantic via Cape Hatteras and the south
eastern States rather than the Davis Strait, thus leaving the strait
open for that low to the south of Greenland to pass through.

It beats the hell out of me why I am the only person on god's earth
who can see that these highs and lows are interference patterns, the
product of acoustic pressures we are yet to examine.
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/analysis/947_50.gif

What the hell else could they be?

If it were anything the like of what Cleveland Abbe "The Weather Man",
surmised all those years ago, the two pressure areas described above
would interact with each other directly. Would they not?

I hope the one true god sees fit to provide gifts in men in the coming
generations. I'd tear the present load of ******* new arse-holes for
the good it would do scientific enquiry.

What they believe beggars belief.
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On Apr 22, 8:28 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

The crucial dates are the two phases prior to the eruption on the 18th
May and the phase that broke the spell
May 7 20:51 May 14 12 May 21 19:16.
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phases1901.html
The importance of which are that they reflect a certain similarity to
recent dates and more importantly, times.

I included the whole set of dates and times so that anyone interested
enough can make more comparisons.


A pointless exercise given that there is conclusive argument to adjust
the times of these phases for storms. I dare say there are well
documented records of all tropical cyclones for 1980, it's just that
methods are so much different in this century.

Bloody hell! It was nearly 30 years ago.
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On Apr 23, 12:48 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
It looks like the Andreanof Islands are kicking off again. Still
nothing over 4.9 M. in two days and more.

I suspect that the large high on the North American eastern seaboard
will bleed slowly into the Atlantic via Cape Hatteras and the south
eastern States rather than the Davis Strait, thus leaving the strait
open for that low to the south of Greenland to pass through.

It beats the hell out of me why I am the only person on god's earth
who can see that these highs and lows are interference patterns, the
product of acoustic pressures we are yet to examine.http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/analysis/947_50.gif

What the hell else could they be?

If it were anything the like of what Cleveland Abbe "The Weather Man",
surmised all those years ago, the two pressure areas described above
would interact with each other directly. Would they not?

I hope the one true god sees fit to provide gifts in men in the coming
generations. I'd tear the present load of ******* new arse-holes for
the good it would do scientific enquiry.

What they believe beggars belief.


Close but no cigar:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...041726580.html


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