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FUD.
Don't be put off by it in any of its forms. What is the worst that could happen? In 2004, the Boxing Day disaster that started with an earthquake at Banda Atjeh swept the Indian Ocean as far as Africa. 10 years before, a certain manager in the Indonesian Meteorological department was removed from office for making a mistake and issuing a Tsunami alert. Pity. However those that remained alert were able to take appropriate steps and save both themselves and their families. The odd thing was that those most at variance with the sophisticated academic vision of elementary geophysics fared better that those too wrapped up in their own cleverness to do anything about it. Meanwhile, for the next spell: April 20th to 28th the lunar phase occurs at 10:25. And that puts it into the same league as the spell for 14th to 21st Mar 10:46. So more of the same, which IIRC stated last time with a storm east of Australia. I believe that faded when an stronger one on the other side started. And all sorts of nasty things occurred in the south eastern states of the US&A. Look out for a large High confluence in the NE Pacific. It could extend to the North Pole but is likely to be cut through by a trough of low pressure. So... Here's to interesting times. And always remember: You are on your own. |
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On Apr 19, 2:26 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
FUD. Don't be put off by it in any of its forms. What is the worst that could happen? In 2004, the Boxing Day disaster that started with an earthquake at Banda Atjeh swept the Indian Ocean as far as Africa. 10 years before, a certain manager in the Indonesian Meteorological department was removed from office for making a mistake and issuing a Tsunami alert. Pity. However those that remained alert were able to take appropriate steps and save both themselves and their families. The odd thing was that those most at variance with the sophisticated academic vision of elementary geophysics fared better that those too wrapped up in their own cleverness to do anything about it. Meanwhile, for the next spell: April 20th to 28th the lunar phase occurs at 10:25. And that puts it into the same league as the spell for 14th to 21st Mar 10:46. So more of the same, which IIRC stated last time with a storm east of Australia. I believe that faded when an stronger one on the other side started. And all sorts of nasty things occurred in the south eastern states of the US&A. Look out for a large High confluence in the NE Pacific. It could extend to the North Pole but is likely to be cut through by a trough of low pressure. So... Here's to interesting times. And always remember: You are on your own. Here is one I prepared earlier: On Mar 14, 12:30 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote: On Mar 13, 11:11 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote: 14th to 21st March 2008. The time of the phase is 10:46. Which is similar to the last phase, in that it should provide anticyclonic weather. However things are not working out that way so far. So here we are 5 minutes into a new spell and things are looking exactly the same as they did at the start of the last: http://weather.unisys.com/images/sat_sfc_map_loop.html I don't know what's going on over Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas and Louisiana. There is nothing on this site to compare to the yellow squares on the above site: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/ But there is a lot of cyclogenesis (stormy weather) there. Points to watch out for: On the NEIC board that lists the dates of recent earthquakes with a magnitude over 5: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php Look out for a day that reports no such quakes. This is a new thing learned so it might contain errors but it seems that when there are violent storms due whose potential inner pressures at sea level are likely to be as low as the 960's millibars, .....there is always an hiatus in the list. I have noticed the hiatus in times past but never made the connection until looking at the Aussie site he http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/nmoc/l...DCODE=IDX0033&... And following this warning is a much less gentle one where there will be two or three consecutive earthquakes on that list that are in almost the same place. I am not sure where the first series takes place but the same recurs when the storm is over and the following seems to apply: For storms in the South West Indian Ocean, this series seems to be Vanuatu some 120 degrees distant. I expect yet more tropical storms and there is still the residue of the storm that passed through Britain last Monday to fade into the background too. That one is at present over Estonia and Latvia, with the one that crossed Britain a day or so later about to approach Norway both at 990 millibars. I believe that when they reach 1000 to 1005 mb there will be a large, maybe a very large earthquake. (As a warning the prelude will be some uncertain or plain wrong weather forecasting from the various national agencies.) Well that's the best I can do so far. Good luck to all involved and god help the victims. Maybe once the one laptop per child thing gets going, they might have a fighting chance. Maybe even grow up to respect their environment and stop the illegal logging. Let's hope they are not subverted with the hopeless inanity of global warming whatever else. |
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I just found the Australian data archive:
http://www.bom.gov.au/nmoc/MSL/ All I need now is China or Siberia and/or both would be even nicer. Not content with criminal characteristics towards humanity, the enticing culture of communiteeism seems radically hostile to all forms of pressure. Perhaps if we started calling them The People's Liberation of National Weather Data instead of Synoptics... Or perhaps if we stopped calling them ******s? The *******! |
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On Apr 20, 7:14 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
I just found the Australian data archive:http://www.bom.gov.au/nmoc/MSL/ All I need now is China or Siberia and/or both would be even nicer. Not content with criminal characteristics towards humanity, the enticing culture of communiteeism seems radically hostile to all forms of pressure. Perhaps if we started calling them The People's Liberation of National Weather Data instead of Synoptics... Forgot to add: 27P has gone. |
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On Apr 19, 2:26 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
FUD. Don't be put off by it in any of its forms. What is the worst that could happen? In 2004, the Boxing Day disaster that started with an earthquake at Banda Atjeh swept the Indian Ocean as far as Africa. 10 years before, a certain manager in the Indonesian Meteorological department was removed from office for making a mistake and issuing a Tsunami alert. I wonder how the people irresponsible for that catastrophe were treated? If they sacked a man for not killing hundreds of thousands of people, what could they possibly have done about those that did? Funny thing in all the follow ups, there were little or no recriminations. I imagine in the good old days when the law demanded and eye for an eye, they'd round up all their families, even the most distant relatives, all his friends and their families, all the people they did business with and all their families and execute all them. And they'd still have come up short. |
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The Canadian chart is showing a Low over the mid-western USA:
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensem...me=00&Type=pnm It's pretty much a “col“ over the rest of the eastern States, as far as about 100 degrees west, maybe. Most of Canada is sitting under an High and there are large Highs either side of the continent. Their Northern Hemisphere chart is looking slightly different, with a Low menacing the NE USA: http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/analysis/947_50.gif That chart also shows a High and a Low suitably situated in the northern North Atlantic just right for a spell full of cold weather this week, never mind what the better educated may think. The UK has one half decent TV show that deals with agricultural interests. Mostly it is geared to a children's style magazine hence the intake for presenters coming from Blue Peter. But what would one expect from a self contained quango with a penchant for jessies and drug abusers? It's the only place on TV -not counting the regional newscasts which are lax enough in some areas to allow a view of the North Atlantic chart. Which almost hardly gets used. For non UK residents, one can get a glimmer of what it used to be like before modern technology gave us massive improvements: http://satellite.ehabich.info/hurricane2nc.htm Allow me to draw your attention to the writing on the screen, Notice it is in brown and green? And the predominant colours of the background? Well the BBC in its majesty has solved such problems as illegibility by doing away with all things graphic except the background. Instead it makes do with us having to believe whatever the presenters tell us to believe whilst they are waving at what looks like spilled porridge. They won't tell us how much that set up cost. I do not wonder why. And since there is obviously no money in it, the independent services don't even offer what the BBC does. The Met Office must be demanding outrageous prices for its services. So why doesn't someone approach the Canucks? Or even the Chimpistanians? They are their satellites, after all. Still I suppose nothing better from a government made up of sock puppets. And one with a leader who has a tatty, large hole in it at that, darn it! Meanwhile: http://www.westwind.ch/?link=ukmb,ht...racknell+13 2 has a deepening Low situated in the middle of the Atlantic until March the 8th. So that should prove interesting, as once March the 8th is past the Low is scheduled to return.. Or is it? |
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On Apr 20, 5:44 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
The Canadian chart is showing a Low over the mid-western USA: http://www..weatheroffice.gc.ca/ense...our=0&Day=0&Ru... It's pretty much a “col“ over the rest of the eastern States, as far as about 100 degrees west, maybe. Most of Canada is sitting under an High and there are large Highs either side of the continent. Their Northern Hemisphere chart is looking slightly different, with a Low menacing the NE USA: http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/analysis/947_50.gif That chart also shows a High and a Low suitably situated in the northern North Atlantic just right for a spell full of cold weather this week, never mind what the better educated may think. This map was interesting as of the date posted: http://www.weather.gov/largemap.php Red flag. That means fire warnings. Right over the longitude where that met-man drew the lines. Well done him (or her.) And floods for the NE States and all along the Misisssssiisiisiispppsi. More to come yet. A lot! Time that monkey spoke to god again I imagine? |
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On Apr 20, 11:30 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
This map was interesting as of the date posted: http://www.weather.gov/largemap.php Red flag. That means fire warnings. Right over the longitude where that met-man drew the lines. Well done him (or her.) I think that when the data is analysed the actual distances apart will be more like 15 degrees. That would put it in the same keep as the Lows that miss Britain by 15 degrees. The region around the Irish Sea, for instance, will experience far nicer weather whilst a Low goes past to the north by 15 degrees. Some other parts of the kingdom will of course be inundated. Just like in the USA. I find that sort of thing interesting. Must be because I am a kook. |
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Almost forgot to look what's kookin:
19th April 2008 5.3 M. @14:53; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia. 6.0 M. @10:21; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia. Always happens at the end of a storm. How about that? |
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On Apr 21, 4:39 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Almost forgot to look what's kookin: 19th April 2008 5.3 M. @14:53; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia. 6.0 M. @10:21; 7.9 S 125.6 E Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia. Always happens at the end of a storm. How about that? There is anther pair of matching quakes on tha NEIC list at the moment: 5.5 M. 2008/04/21 @05:33, 7.1 S. 129.8 E. Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia. 5.6 M. 2008/04/20 @13:01; 7.8 S.125.7 E. Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia. Same place. The storm watchers initially gave that hurricane as two almost identical Tropical Storms. Kudos for that bravery to whomever. |
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