On May 9, 5:21*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On May 9, 3:47 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:



Complex problems with complex low and the Low Complex:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/..._pressure.html

That has just GOT to be a major volcanic eruption late saturday most
of Sunday and early Monday. Just like it shows on the model run I
posted about on this thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...m/thread/f7644....

This is from the NEIC: 5.5 Magnitude earthquake at 23:21 on 8th May
2008.
!8 hours since the last one, therefore a storm brewing maybe. It is
certainly heading that way.

"a storm" what's that supposed to mean?

In article cff8a1a5-f7fd-4656-8bee-f80f10f37ca8
@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, says...
On May 9, 3:47 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Complex problems with complex low and the Low Complex:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/..._pressure.html

That has just GOT to be a major volcanic eruption late saturday most
of Sunday and early Monday. Just like it shows on the model run I
posted about on this thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...m/thread/f7644...

This is from the NEIC: 5.5 Magnitude earthquake at 23:21 on 8th May
2008.
!8 hours since the last one, therefore a storm brewing maybe. It is
certainly heading that way.


From NEIC, based on the ~1500 M5+ earthquakes per year, there are about
480 M5.5+ earthquakes per year, or about 1 every 18 hours. (There have
been 43 5.5 or larger quakes in the last 30 days.)

Harold
--
Harold Brooks

On 9 May, 18:47, Harold Brooks wrote:
In article cff8a1a5-f7fd-4656-8bee-f80f10f37ca8
@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, says...



On May 9, 3:47 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Complex problems with complex low and the Low Complex:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/..._pressure.html

That has just GOT to be a major volcanic eruption late saturday most
of Sunday and early Monday. Just like it shows on the model run I
posted about on this thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...m/thread/f7644...

This is from the NEIC: 5.5 Magnitude earthquake at 23:21 on 8th May
2008.
!8 hours since the last one, therefore a storm brewing maybe. It is
certainly heading that way.

From NEIC, based on the ~1500 M5+ earthquakes per year, there are about
480 M5.5+ earthquakes per year, or about 1 every 18 hours. (There have
been 43 5.5 or larger quakes in the last 30 days.)

Harold
--
Harold Brooks


It would now seem as if a complex low pressure at 55N 30W is being
used to predict a major volcanic eruption anywhere in the world.

But, why the Northern Atlantic? There are plenty of vigorous areas of
low pressure in the Southern Ocean between Antarctic and S. America,
S. Africa, New Zealand etc. Are these never able to contribute to
earthquakes/volcanoes?

Or is this an "upmarket, decadent, Western standard of living" theory?

On May 9, 6:47 pm, Harold Brooks wrote:
In article cff8a1a5-f7fd-4656-8bee-f80f10f37ca8
@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, says...

This is from the NEIC: 5.5 Magnitude earthquake at 23:21 on 8th May
2008.

!8 hours since the last one, therefore a storm brewing maybe. It is
certainly heading that way.

From NEIC, based on the ~1500 M5+ earthquakes per year, there are about
480 M5.5+ earthquakes per year, or about 1 every 18 hours. (There have
been 43 5.5 or larger quakes in the last 30 days.)

What did you make of the facts I pointed out to you earlier? A series
of years with less than 8 quakes of 7 M and over per annum.

As for the lower magnitude quakes there does seem to be a relationship
between mascons, high pressure areas and said quakes. If you look at
the world list of quakes greater than 2 M., the relationship is even
more striking.

Please don't make the mistake that some of the dunces on
uk.sci.weather tend to make, that I am insisting one is the cause of
the other.

My take on the matter is more in the nature of harmonics that might be
engendered in the three body problem, where the orbit perturbations
cause a lapse in the system. A sphere of several billion tons, moving
at thousands of miles an hour must have a special problem dealing with
inertia.

Consider what might happen with a gyro-compass were it 2 thousand
miles wide and on an armature 1/4 million miles long.

The mere orbit of the moon is impossibly complex.

On top of that, It has huge mass-concentrations the like of which make
earth's mascons -which as yet are still to be explored; pale into
insignificance.

Which in turn means that the ideas I have put forward should not be
ruled out without some consideration.

May I take it that you would agree that all the earth's weather in
intimately interlinked?

Logically then, a shower in North Wales affects the wind in Barra.
Which is only a small step away from my claim that a severe storm in
the Philippines can affect the weather here in Britain.

It is axiomatic that floods in Britain following long spells of wet
weather here coincide with reports of forest fires in the arid climes
of North America. You have noticed that?

Did you know that the mascon we call the Mid Atlantic Ridge runs
friction a close second in the cause of the failure of man made
satellites?

When I first started looking at these things, one of the first put
downs I received was that there are some 3 million earthquakes each
year. I don't know what parameters the person was using, some quote
from a TV show I imagine. But that merely means they are as common as
waves on the sea shore.

30 million seconds in a year; one wave hitting every shore in ten of
those -every ten of those; on average...

And the waves are intimately linked to the weather are they not?

OK, that is a non sequitur. Merely saying such and such is caused by
so and so does not prove anything.

Saying silly things about a fellow poster for instance, instead of
reasoning with him, is not the way to prove him wrong, even if he says
he agrees with you that he is a kook for example, it merely shows a
paucity of respect for both people and for science.

Ah well, I have said my piece. One thing I have learned whilst airing
my views is that it is a thankless task trying to disabuse an expert
of his fallacies.

Believe what you like. Stay in the dark. Be the master of the cul-de-
sac.
Much good may it do you.
It would be a shame to wake some people.

Or:

It's 21 hours now since the last one:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php

Stop thinking in terms of averages and do the actual observations. And
while you are at it, ponder on the weight of the moon.
3.5 x 1 Kilo per litre. What is that for a spheroid some 3.5 million
metres across?

A lot.
And it doesn't roll around the earth on averages.
Please do not berate me with statistics in future. They all add up to
proof positive for my argument not yours.

I hope you realise that I am paying you a compliment in writing to you
of these things. I wouldn't even consider it were your name Dawlish or
that other plonker.

On May 9, 8:41 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

It's 21 hours now since the last one:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php

And Rammasun is at hurricane force. It is slated to become a cat. 2.
Coincidence?

Perhaps.
If you care to look, you will find plenty of them.

On May 9, 8:52 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On May 9, 8:41 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:



It's 21 hours now since the last one:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php

And Rammasun is at hurricane force. It is slated to become a cat. 2.
Coincidence?

Perhaps.
If you care to look, you will find plenty of them.

And here is another one:
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/cgi-b...ntic%20Bas in)

Pay attention to Friday 12 Z 9th May through to
Monday 00 Z 12th May 2008.

When a couple of coincidents point to me being right, does it make you
think?

In article abadbb16-3d4a-4d3a-982c-2e9ffe16d985
@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, says...
On May 9, 6:47 pm, Harold Brooks wrote:
In article cff8a1a5-f7fd-4656-8bee-f80f10f37ca8
@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, says...

This is from the NEIC: 5.5 Magnitude earthquake at 23:21 on 8th May
2008.

!8 hours since the last one, therefore a storm brewing maybe. It is
certainly heading that way.

From NEIC, based on the ~1500 M5+ earthquakes per year, there are about
480 M5.5+ earthquakes per year, or about 1 every 18 hours. (There have
been 43 5.5 or larger quakes in the last 30 days.)

What did you make of the facts I pointed out to you earlier? A series
of years with less than 8 quakes of 7 M and over per annum.


I made of it that you didn't know how to do the search on the NEIC
website. The NOAA catalog of significant earthquakes, which is what you
searched, has less than half of the earthquakes that the NEIC database
has. For 1990-2, from your search, NOAA had 9, 6, and 13, respectively.
Searching the NEIC database gives 18, 18, and 24. If you had looked at
"USGS/NEIC (PDE) 1973 - Present", instead of "Significant Worldwide
Earthquakes (2150 B.C. - 1994 A.D.)", you'd have gotten a very different
answer.

Harold
--
Harold Brooks

On May 9, 10:34 pm, Harold Brooks wrote:
In article abadbb16-3d4a-4d3a-982c-2e9ffe16d985
@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, says...

This is from the NEIC: 5.5 Magnitude earthquake at 23:21 on 8th May
2008.

18 hours since the last one, therefore a storm brewing maybe. It is
certainly heading that way.

From NEIC, based on the ~1500 M5+ earthquakes per year, there are about
480 M5.5+ earthquakes per year, or about 1 every 18 hours. (There have
been 43 5.5 or larger quakes in the last 30 days.)

What did you make of the facts I pointed out to you earlier? A series
of years with less than 8 quakes of 7 M and over per annum.

I made of it that you didn't know how to do the search on the NEIC
website. The NOAA catalog of significant earthquakes, which is what you
searched, has less than half of the earthquakes that the NEIC database
has. For 1990-2, from your search, NOAA had 9, 6, and 13, respectively.
Searching the NEIC database gives 18, 18, and 24. If you had looked at
"USGS/NEIC (PDE) 1973 - Present", instead of "Significant Worldwide
Earthquakes (2150 B.C. - 1994 A.D.)", you'd have gotten a very different
answer.

This was a NOAA site?
NEIC: Earthquake Search Results

U. S. G E O L O G I C A L S U R V E Y

E A R T H Q U A K E D A T A B A S E



FILE CREATED: Fri May 9 10:00:11 2008
Global Search Earthquakes= 12
Catalog Used: NOAA
Date Range: Year: 1971 - 1971 Month: 01/Day: 01 Month: 12/
Day: 31
Magnitude Range: 7.0 - 10.0
Data Selection: Significant Earthquakes World Wide (NOAA)


CAT YEAR MO DA ORIG TIME LAT LONG DEP MAGNITUDE IEFM
DTSVNWG DIST

NFPO km
TFS

NOAA 1971 01 10 0717 -3.20 139.70 34 8.10 MsNOAA
9D.. .......
NOAA 1971 02 04 1533 0.50 98.70 40 7.10 MsNOAA
9D.. .......
NOAA 1971 05 22 1643 38.80 40.50 3 7.00
MsNOAA .C.. .......
NOAA 1971 06 17 21 -25.40 -69.40 76 7.00 MsNOAA
5C.. .......
NOAA 1971 07 09 0303 -32.50 -71.30 58 7.50 MsNOAA
9C.. .T.....
NOAA 1971 07 14 0611 -5.50 153.90 47 7.90 MsNOAA
7C.. .T.....
NOAA 1971 07 26 0123 -4.90 153.20 43 7.90 MsNOAA
6D.. .T.....
NOAA 1971 07 27 0203 -2.70 -77.40 135 7.50 MsNOAA
7C.. .......
NOAA 1971 09 05 1835 46.80 141.20 9 7.70 MsNOAA
9D.. .T.....
NOAA 1971 10 27 1758 -15.60 167.20 49 7.10 MsNOAA
7C.. .......
NOAA 1971 11 24 1935 52.90 159.20 106 7.50
MsNOAA .... .......
NOAA 1971 12 15 0829 55.90 163.40 30 7.80 MsNOAA
XF.. .......

Why would the NEIC be using a NOAA database if it were in error?

I was wondering, too, why the National oceans and Atmosphere people
were storing seismic tables. It turns out they are chargeds with the
responsibility of storing most of the USA's geophysics data:

"Welcome to the World Data Center for Solid Earth Geophysics, Boulder.
The WDC for SEG is maintained by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration (NOAA), National Geophysical Data Center (NGDC) in
Boulder, Colorado.

The WDC SEG maintains extensive data and documentation compilations in
a number of geophysical and environmental disciplines, including
historic tsunamis, significant earthquakes, Earth magnetism,
paleomagnetism, topography, gravity, and ecosystems.

Data come from surface, aircraft and satellite platforms. See our list
of datasets held by the WDC for SEG."
http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/wdc/

It's not my problem whatever you think. Here is the search from a
different catalogue:
Global CMT Catalog
Search criteria:

Start date: 1976/1/1 End date: 1977/1/1
-90 =lat= 90 -180 =lon= 180
0 =depth= 1000 -9999 =time shift= 9999
0 =mb= 10 0=Ms= 10 7=Mw= 10
0 =tension plunge= 90 0 =null plunge= 90

Results
010176A KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION

Date: 1976/ 1/ 1 Centroid Time: 1:29:53.4 GMT
Lat= -29.25 Lon=-176.96
Depth= 47.8 Half duration= 9.4
Centroid time minus hypocenter time: 13.8
Moment Tensor: Expo=26 7.680 0.090 -7.770 1.390 4.520 -3.260
Mw = 7.3 mb = 6.2 Ms = 0.0 Scalar Moment = 9.56e+26
Fault plane: strike=202 dip=30 slip=93
Fault plane: strike=18 dip=60 slip=88

011476A KERMADEC ISLANDS

Date: 1976/ 1/14 Centroid Time: 15:56: 7.5 GMT
Lat= -29.69 Lon=-177.04
Depth= 46.7 Half duration=20.0
Centroid time minus hypocenter time: 32.6
Moment Tensor: Expo=27 4.780 -0.490 -4.300 0.830 3.620 -1.320
Mw = 7.8 mb = 6.3 Ms = 0.0 Scalar Moment = 6.02e+27
Fault plane: strike=200 dip=26 slip=95
Fault plane: strike=15 dip=64 slip=88

011476B KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION

Date: 1976/ 1/14 Centroid Time: 16:47:44.8 GMT
Lat= -28.72 Lon=-176.75
Depth= 17.7 Half duration=20.5
Centroid time minus hypocenter time: 11.3
Moment Tensor: Expo=27 2.560 0.180 -2.740 3.580 6.770 -1.230
Mw = 7.9 mb = 6.5 Ms = 8.0 Scalar Moment = 8.18e+27
Fault plane: strike=189 dip=11 slip=71
Fault plane: strike=28 dip=80 slip=93

012176A KURIL ISLANDS

Date: 1976/ 1/21 Centroid Time: 10: 5:33.6 GMT
Lat= 44.58 Lon= 149.49
Depth= 26.5 Half duration= 9.3
Centroid time minus hypocenter time: 9.5
Moment Tensor: Expo=26 3.210 -1.490 -1.720 2.870 5.330 -1.840
Mw = 7.2 mb = 6.3 Ms = 7.0 Scalar Moment = 6.91e+26
Fault plane: strike=237 dip=16 slip=116
Fault plane: strike=30 dip=76 slip=83

020476A GUATEMALA

Date: 1976/ 2/ 4 Centroid Time: 9: 1: 7.2 GMT
Lat= 15.14 Lon= -89.78
Depth= 16.3 Half duration=13.8
Centroid time minus hypocenter time: 23.8
Moment Tensor: Expo=27 -0.350 -0.780 1.120 0.380 -0.470 1.670
Mw = 7.5 mb = 6.2 Ms = 7.5 Scalar Moment = 2.04e+27
Fault plane: strike=254 dip=73 slip=-10
Fault plane: strike=347 dip=80 slip=-162

032476A KERMADEC ISLANDS

Date: 1976/ 3/24 Centroid Time: 4:46:16.4 GMT
Lat= -29.99 Lon=-177.51
Depth= 54.1 Half duration= 8.1
Centroid time minus hypocenter time: 12.0
Moment Tensor: Expo=26 3.670 0.120 -3.780 0.070 1.780 -1.410
Mw = 7.0 mb = 6.4 Ms = 6.8 Scalar Moment = 4.34e+26
Fault plane: strike=206 dip=34 slip=103
Fault plane: strike=11 dip=57 slip=81

050576A KERMADEC ISLANDS

Date: 1976/ 5/ 5 Centroid Time: 4:52: 2.6 GMT
Lat= -29.84 Lon=-177.43
Depth= 41.8 Half duration= 7.9
Centroid time minus hypocenter time: 11.6
Moment Tensor: Expo=26 3.630 0.040 -3.660 0.150 1.800 -1.750
Mw = 7.0 mb = 6.2 Ms = 6.8 Scalar Moment = 4.39e+26
Fault plane: strike=211 dip=34 slip=105
Fault plane: strike=13 dip=57 slip=80

060376A NEW IRELAND REGION

Date: 1976/ 6/ 3 Centroid Time: 16:44:53.1 GMT
Lat= -4.75 Lon= 153.47
Depth= 85.9 Half duration= 8.7
Centroid time minus hypocenter time: 14.3
Moment Tensor: Expo=26 5.110 -1.330 -3.780 -1.270 2.650 2.710
Mw = 7.1 mb = 6.2 Ms = 0.0 Scalar Moment = 6.08e+26
Fault plane: strike=143 dip=31 slip=83
Fault plane: strike=331 dip=59 slip=94

062076A NORTHERN SUMATERA

Date: 1976/ 6/20 Centroid Time: 20:53:23.5 GMT
Lat= 3.18 Lon= 96.24
Depth= 19.1 Half duration= 7.5
Centroid time minus hypocenter time: 10.1
Moment Tensor: Expo=26 2.430 -0.020 -2.410 1.120 -1.680 1.840
Mw = 7.0 mb = 6.3 Ms = 7.0 Scalar Moment = 3.55e+26
Fault plane: strike=338 dip=28 slip=99
Fault plane: strike=147 dip=62 slip=85
http://www.globalcmt.org/cgi-bin/glo...upe2=90&list=0

Perhaps you would care to put me right and give me a link to a search
of a catalogue more to your tastes? Maybe include the parameters?

I can't seem to find the details in your previous posts. A bit dense I
know, so what am I going to do?

* catalog=ANSS
* start_time=1990/01/01,00:00:00
* end_time=1991/01/01,00:00:00
* minimum_latitude=-90
* maximum_latitude=90
* minimum_longitude=-180
* maximum_longitude=180
* minimum_magnitude=7.0
* maximum_magnitude=10
* event_type=E

Date Time Lat Lon Depth Mag Nst Gap Clo RMS
SRC
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1990/03/03 12:16:27.96 -22.12 175.16 33.20 7.40 322 1.32
NEI
1990/03/05 16:38:12.57 -18.32 168.06 20.70 7.00 335 1.24
NEI
1990/05/30 10:40:06.14 45.84 26.67 89.30 7.10 648 1.03
NEI

http://www.ncedc.org/cgi-bin/catalog-search2.pl

On May 9, 9:26 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On May 9, 8:52 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

On May 9, 8:41 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

It's 21 hours now since the last one:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php

And Rammasun is at hurricane force. It is slated to become a cat. 2.
Coincidence?

Perhaps.
If you care to look, you will find plenty of them.

When a couple of coincidents point to me being right, does it make you
think?

A 6.7 and smack on time too. You know what?

I am bloody good I am.
2008/05/09. 21:51. Guam region.