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18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock

And the last spell was based on the phase of the moon being somewhere
near 4 o'clock.

I get the idea that these spells are similar except that with the
first, the weathr is warm and a Low presents itself at the North Pole.
Tropical storms occur on the Norrth American coasts of the Pacific and
Atlantic.

With the coming spell I imagine the predominant spell ovr the North
Pole will be an High. Tropical storms will occur in the Asian oceans.
And we will have uch the same weather only it will be a lot colder.

Now then children, a little homework:

WTF is going on?
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On Jul 17, 2:36 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock

And the last spell was based on the phase of the moon being somewhere
near 4 o'clock.

I get the idea that these spells are similar except that with the
first, the weathr is warm and a Low presents itself at the North Pole.
Tropical storms occur on the Norrth American coasts of the Pacific and
Atlantic.

With the coming spell I imagine the predominant spell ovr the North
Pole will be an High. Tropical storms will occur in the Asian oceans.
And we will have uch the same weather only it will be a lot colder.

Now then children, a little homework:

WTF is going on?


Time to take a look at some simple geopodolatory.

Baer's Law declares that in Russia, the rivers bear to the right
because of the way the world turns:

Baer's law: Because of the rotation of the earth, in the northern
hemisphere, erosion occurs mostly on the right banks of rivers, and in
the southern hemisphere on the left banks. In 1926 Albert Einstein
wrote a paper explaining the causes of the phenomenon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baer's_law

There is precious little on the "Net" about the man. Maybe the Ruskis
are keeping him to themselves?

What Einstein had to say in agreement with him was that:
helical flow develops in a meandering river, and that because the
higher-velocity portions of the stream will be driven to the outside
portion of the river bend, erosion will be greater there.

He also noted that because the helical flow possesses inertia, the
circulation will be at their maximum beyond the inflection of the
curve. Hence, the wave-form of the river will migrate in a down-
current direction. Finally, Einstein explained that the larger the
cross-sectional area of a river, the slower the helical flow will be
absorbed by friction; which explains why larger rivers have meander
patterns with longer wavelengths.
http://www.searchanddiscovery.net/do...ein/albert.htm

Apart from the fact that rivers run fastest at top dead centre and
that deposition is greatest immediatley beneath that point, I can't
say much mor than the rest is obvious.

Einstein alluded to Coriolis' supposition that the motion of the earth
has force. It does not. Any science student from 13 years old on up is
aware of why not.

But geologists are not particularly good at physics in my not very
humble. So without appeal to acoustics, a finite but intangible get
out clause for all things planetary, we have to look at the bigger
picture above ground.

Which is that if the learned professor Baer was correct in his
advocacy, then the source of the river has to be examined.

Without a mountain range, you can not have a river. Your garden would
be marshy and its deluvial libations, decidedly biblical; -the rain
would be rare and the mists would be plentiful.

But with mountain ranges you get valley plains and fertile slopes. And
rivers. And weather from the west.

Which in the Northern Hemisphere is the same for both main landmasses
wth the exception of the Orient -which I can not comment on due to the
poor supply of weather information from Russia and China.

Starting the system at the Atlantic, we get moist air coming in from
the northern regions. This flow falls on the western coasts and drains
into rivers that according to Baer, tend to the south if they flow to
the east and to the north if they flow to the west.

Is this really so?

With Rusian rivers moving North and North American ones moving south,
one day the Mississippi and the Ob will only be separated by the Mid
Atlantic ridge.
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Surely someone will mention the "Hollow Earth".

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Surely someone will mention the "Hollow Earth".


No, it's turtles all the way down.




Jack


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On Jul 17, 4:03 pm, JPG wrote:
On 17 Jul, 15:48, "Jack )"

wrote:
Surely someone will mention the "Hollow Earth".


No, it's turtles all the way down.


I prefer to believe that we live on the surface of an ocean that we
have yet to penetrate. Meanwhile we live at the confluence of the two
oceans that barely a century ago, they too would have seemed as
inpenetrable.

These days we consider ourselves to be the masters of the universe
because we can now at great peril, plumb the depths of one and gain
temporary access to the top of the other.

All without a satisfactory description of the term "fluid".



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Weatherlawyer wrote:

On Jul 17, 4:03 pm, JPG wrote:
On 17 Jul, 15:48, "Jack )"

wrote:
Surely someone will mention the "Hollow Earth".


No, it's turtles all the way down.


I prefer to believe that we live on the surface of an ocean that we
have yet to penetrate. Meanwhile we live at the confluence of the two
oceans that barely a century ago, they too would have seemed as
inpenetrable.

These days we consider ourselves to be the masters of the universe
because we can now at great peril, plumb the depths of one and gain
temporary access to the top of the other.

All without a satisfactory description of the term "fluid".


What do you make of the fact that some materials pass P-waves and
S-waves, but others pass only P-waves?

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emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
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On Jul 17, 4:03 pm, JPG wrote:
On 17 Jul, 15:48, "Jack )"

wrote:
Surely someone will mention the "Hollow Earth".


No, it's turtles all the way down.


But on the inside we get a lot of sulphur products with the
intfraoceanic estuarine-type stuff.

And with sulphur salts we can introduce photon mechanisms.

Hmm...

Put me down for a fiver on the hollow earth one.

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Default Appealing to the inner lizard.

On Jul 21, 10:34 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Put me down for a fiver on the hollow earth one.


Which theory is evidentally suspect in that creatures of the black
lagoon will not have eyes in the way we would understand them.

Of course with translucent skin....

Better make that a tenner.
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On Jul 17, 2:36*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock

And the last spell was based on the phase of the moon being somewhere
near 4 o'clock.

I get the idea that these spells are similar except that with the
first, the weathr is warm and a Low presents itself at the North Pole.
Tropical storms occur on the Norrth American coasts of the Pacific and
Atlantic.

With the coming spell I imagine the predominant spell ovr the North
Pole will be an High. Tropical storms will occur in the Asian oceans.
And we will have uch the same weather only it will be a lot colder.

Now then children, a little homework:

WTF is going on?


But W, any theory such as this would have its proof measured in
practice. Times, dates and strengths. You are very willing to do this
via where the moon is in the sky at a certain time, but completely
unwilling to do this for outcomes. If it is not possible to predict
with any accuracy, whatsoever, with your ideas.....what is there use?

So many deeply held ideas (by small minorities, usually) cannot be
proven in practice; astrology is still one, phrenology was another. It
is possible to predict from neither. Unless you, or others, can use
your theories to predict; it has to be consigned to the same dustbin.

"With the coming spell I imagine the predominant spell ovr the North
Pole will be an High. Tropical storms will occur in the Asian oceans.
And we will have uch the same weather only it will be a lot colder."

So; where, when and to what degree? Same with earthquakes and
volcanoes, which, since I've been monitoring, your theories failed
miserably to predict. You propound these things, but never, ever,
return to analyse them, or keep records of your accuracy.
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On Jul 18, 6:27 am, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 17, 2:36 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:



18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock


And the last spell was based on the phase of the moon being somewhere
near 4 o'clock.


I get the idea that these spells are similar except that with the
first, the weathr is warm and a Low presents itself at the North Pole.
Tropical storms occur on the Norrth American coasts of the Pacific and
Atlantic.


With the coming spell I imagine the predominant spell ovr the North
Pole will be an High. Tropical storms will occur in the Asian oceans.
And we will have uch the same weather only it will be a lot colder.


Now then children, a little homework:


WTF is going on?


But W, any theory such as this would have its proof measured in
practice. Times, dates and strengths. You are very willing to do this
via where the moon is in the sky at a certain time, but completely
unwilling to do this for outcomes. If it is not possible to predict
with any accuracy, whatsoever, with your ideas.....what is there use?

So many deeply held ideas (by small minorities, usually) cannot be
proven in practice; astrology is still one, phrenology was another. It
is possible to predict from neither. Unless you, or others, can use
your theories to predict; it has to be consigned to the same dustbin.

"With the coming spell I imagine the predominant spell ovr the North
Pole will be an High. Tropical storms will occur in the Asian oceans.
And we will have uch the same weather only it will be a lot colder."

So; where, when and to what degree? Same with earthquakes and
volcanoes, which, since I've been monitoring, your theories failed
miserably to predict. You propound these things, but never, ever,
return to analyse them, or keep records of your accuracy.



18th to 25th July: 07:59. This spell is an 8 o'clock one.
For the duration of the spell.

And the last spell was based on the phase of the moon being somewhere
near 4 o'clock.

Fot its duration. 3rd rock from the sun, as usual. (The one right next
to the moon that is.)

I get the idea that these spells are similar except that with the
first, the weather was warm and a Low presented itself at the North
Pole.

That's the astronomical one which appears on the relevant weather
charts. Same 90 degree north location as was.

Tropical storms occurred on the North American coasts of the Pacific
and Atlantic.

As predicted.

With the coming spell, I imagine the predominant weather mass over the
North Pole will be an High, such tropical storms as will occur during
the run, will tend to occur in the Indian and West Pacific oceans. As
opposed to the ones that occurred with the previous spell, which were
located near North America.

And we will have much the same weather in Britain as with the
preceding phase with the exception that it will be a lot colder.

Which is a matter of degree depending on the previous experience. Your
mileage will vary from mine.

But Your Majesty, any theory such as this would have its proof measured in
practice.


And you really need the practice, so get cracking.


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