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Default Sunday's 6 day model interpretation (given: 27/07/08)

On Jul 27, 6:00 am, "Darren Prescott"
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By next weekend there'll be cooler and fresher conditions across the UK, as
low pressure moves in from the west. All areas are at risk of rain, the
heaviest of which will be in the north and west.


Which won't happen I presume until Fung Wang runs out of pressure. It
is slated to reach 100 knots tomorrow. Signs of its demise will come
10 knots at a time from the NEIC list at:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_big.php

(Where coincidentally, even now the demise of another storm is being
signalled.)

Here is a summary of the latest NWP output for noon (GMT) on Thursday.
Issued 0456z, 27th July 2008.

ECMWF:http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/da...mwf/ecmwf.html
SE'lies cover the UK, with low pressure to the SW and a secondary low to the
south. Low pressure persists to the SW on day 6 with further SE'lies. On day
7 the low deepens to the west of Scotland, leading to stronger SSW'lies and
SW'lies.


This Low has built up out of the standard Newfounlander and of Bertha
I take it? Or am I right it went west on Wodin's day? (I see some odd
signals for that on NEIC's list.)

Did it come back from crossing Iceland? Anyone know?

MetO:http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/da...ukmo/pslv.html
MetO shows a trough over Ireland and a mixture of light SSE'lies and SE'lies
as a result. The winds become lighter on day 6 as low pressure fills to the
west of Ireland.

GFS:http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/pslv_frame.htm
GFS has a low to the SW and SE'lies across the UK as a result. The low
deepens to the north of Scotland on day 6, leading to gusty SW'lies for all.
Southerlies cover the UK on day 7 as another low moves over Ireland.

GEM:http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/da.../gem/pslv.html
The Canadian run brings SSE'lies with low pressure west of Scotland.

JMA:http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rjma1201.gif
The Japanese run shows southerlies and SSE'lies as the result of a low to
the west.


Measures of agreement denote an understanding of the planet's state of
fluidity. Much digression means discrepancies will be resolved
elsewhere.
(Weatherlawyer's lore.)

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Default Sunday's 6 day model interpretation (given: 27/07/08)

On Jul 27, 8:31 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

This Low has built up out of the standard Newfounlander and of Bertha
I take it? Or am I right it went west on Wodin's day? (I see some odd
signals for that on NEIC's list.)


993 mb and not much of a dartboard after all this time.
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Default Sunday's 6 day model interpretation (given: 27/07/08)

On Jul 28, 6:45 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

This Low has built up out of the standard Newfounlander and of Bertha
I take it? Or am I right it went west on Wodin's day? (I see some odd
signals for that on NEIC's list.)


993 mb and not much of a dartboard after all this time.


I've just been looking at a recording of Countryfile from Yesterday.
Bill Giles was on it so the daggers were not as deep as one might have
supposed?

I noticed the graphics display is just as atrocious as ever with the
blend in from the Atlantic chart to the UK view giving the impression
of the Low moving in.

It is still holding steady and is not growing, or intensifying
rather.

It beats me why the dropped Mr Giles. I got the impression he was all
for making weather programmes interesting and informative. I would
have thought it was cheap TV for the masses but they still only allow
a few minutes for a forecast.

Fung Wong is crossing Taiwan at 75 knots. Quite a stormer, there will
be fatalities no doubt. The thing could have been even worse though.
For some reason it was cut down.

Deep in the oceans, something stirs:

He is stretching out the north over the empty place, hanging the earth
upon nothing; wrapping up the waters in his clouds, so that the cloud
mass is not split under them; enclosing the face of heaven, spreading
out over it his cloud.

He has described a circle upon the face of the waters, to where light
ends in darkness.

The very pillars of heaven shake and they are amazed because of his
rebuke. By his power he has stirred up the sea and by his
understanding he has broken the stormer to pieces. By his wind he has
polished up heaven itself, his hand has pierced the gliding serpent.

These are the fringes of his ways, just a whisper has been heard of
him!
But of his mighty thunder who can show an understanding?”

Job Chapter 26

Not me. Cyclogenesis defies logic:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.g...7df9a63d5f0800
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Default Sunday's 6 day model interpretation (given: 27/07/08)

On Jul 28, 10:45 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

But of his mighty thunder who can show an understanding?”

Job Chapter 26

Not me. Cyclogenesis defies logic: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.g.../browse_frm/th...


But that won't stop me trying.

If you want to know where a double headed Low comes from, take a look
at this baby. A little slip of a Low sneaked up along the west coast
of Britain via France:
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm

What WILL make it interesting is watching to see if it will pass
straight through the singularity as though they were both a couple of
ocean waves.

Which now I come to think of it, they are. Too bad there isn't going
to be a lot of time to see. New spell on Friday. The USA will be
making a start on it tomorrow, if they have not already opened the
wrappers.
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Default Wave trains in the North Atlantic.

On Jul 30, 8:14 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

If you want to know where a double headed Low comes from, take a look
at this baby. A little slip of a Low sneaked up along the west coast
of Britain via France: http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm

What WILL make it interesting is watching to see if it will pass
straight through the singularity as though they were both a couple of
ocean waves.

Which now I come to think of it, they are.


Yup!

It is a wave passing through. Just as I thought.

Troughs are probably caused by Lows that pass in the night. To coin an
aphorism. What on earth did I mean probably? I am certain of it.

And Ridges are antyclones that do much the same thing.

When Lows and Highs collide -which isn't as often as one might expect,
they tend to cancel each other out for much the same reason that like
adds to like.

And the rotations produces either increased wind speeds or
precipitation. Or do they?

I don't know that anticyclones have much in the way of wind speeds to
increase. But they cover a vast area instead. Perhaps that is the key
to their extensions?

Well it is something to think about when the surge troopers are not
shooting your kids.


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