On Sep 8, 1:57*am, wrote:

As far as mist, fog, drizzle or any other weather was present, you
would need to see the local weather observations at the time.

I noticed in Britain last year we got foggy weather commensurate with
tropical storms out east somewhere. It hasn't been so noticeable this
year, not by any means.

Or was it in 2005 that the coincidence was marked? I can't remember.

Something on it he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...ists+typhoons#

It's 3 am here and I am too tired to try and understand what my point
was in the thread. It looks like I was having a fit again. And I
hadn't any understanding of your tornado stuff.

And that Carolinas effect is a recent discovery too. So don't worry
over it.

A bunch of tornadoes from a large super cell is the equivalent of a
hurricane or a major earthquake a Mag 7 or so.

When the weathermen are right and I am wrong it will be a storm and
when I am right and they are wrong it will be a quake is a rule of
thumb you could watch for.

On Sep 8, 2:56*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

I noticed in Britain last year we got foggy weather commensurate with
tropical storms out east somewhere. It hasn't been so noticeable this
year, not by any means.

Or was it in 2005 that the coincidence was marked? I can't remember.

Something on it he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...m/thread/3447b...

From that link:

On Oct 5 2006, 3:18 am, "Weatherlawyer"
wrote:
Weatherlawyer wrote:
John Hall wrote:
In article .com,
Weatherlawyer writes:

I shall have to do these years:

Snow began to fall in January and then "it froze most days & every
night till February 16 ... February 2 when the Ice was thickest I found
it 11.5 In. thick in a pond ... The Effects of this frost were many &
destructive...".

how can I tell it wasn't a negative NAO?

Anticyclonic weather typically produces mist at morning and evening.
Deep cold in Britain requires what we call a Scandinavian High. Snow
needs that too plus an Icelandic Low.

Icelandic Lows are a normal course of events similar to the Azores /
Bermudan High.

Anything on the database for hurricanes that year? Or large mag
earthquakes?

These can change the way a spell performs. There is only so much force
in train on the planet at any one time. If it is being used by a super-
typhoon it isn't going to be holding the line in Britain the way it
should.

I suppose that the Admiralty might have records of hurricanes that
affected RN ships. I believe it was standard practice for naval vessels
to include weather info in their logs.

I don't think hurricanes were understood in the 18th century. I
believe the word used might have still been "tempest".

The Frost in the winter 1739-40 was remarkable, being both Long,
Severe, & Settled, but was made more remarkable by the very backward,
dry, & cold season which followed it, & was more destructive than the
Frost itself.

The Autumn 1739 was mostly cold, with frequent Rimy mornings. The wind
being mostly Northerly all October, but there was no settled frost till
November 7, when there came one for 10 days, which was sharp for the
time of year. It froze .9 of an inch in a whole day in this frost, &
the greatest thickness of the ice was 3.1 inches...

...at the end of December it grew colder and began to freeze December
25 at night, the wind being ENE ... December 30 in the day time it
froze an inch; & in night after 2.5 inches. and December 31 the
Thermometer was fallen to [-4 C°], which is far lower than I ever
before saw it, though if the Thermometer had been out of doors it would
probably have fallen still lower....

Snow began to fall in January and then "it froze most days & every
night till February 16 ... February 2 when the Ice was thickest I found
it 11.5 In. thick in a pond ... The Effects of this frost were many &
destructive...".

http://www.lyndon-estate.co.uk/04%20...20Figures/Thom...

From the catalogue of the moon phases by Fred Espenak:

1739 00h00m

Jan 3 02:04
Jan 9 17:21 Jan 16 18:04 Jan 24 23:06 p Feb 1 12:53
Feb 8 04:49 T Feb 15 13:18 Feb 23 16:24 Mar 2 21:03
Mar 9 16:49 Mar 17 09:35 Mar 25 06:31 Apr 1 03:40
Apr 8 05:24 Apr 16 05:13 Apr 23 17:24 Apr 30 09:54
May 7 18:46 May 15 22:41 May 23 01:54 May 29 16:48
Jun 6 09:07 Jun 14 13:03 Jun 21 09:07 Jun 28 01:20
Jul 6 00:21 Jul 14 00:12 Jul 20 16:04 t Jul 27 12:22
Aug 4 15:52 A Aug 12 08:48 Aug 18 23:40 Aug 26 02:35
Sep 3 06:51 Sep 10 15:48 Sep 17 08:41 Sep 24 20:06
Oct 2 20:47 Oct 9 22:20 Oct 16 19:54 Oct 24 16:12
Nov 1 09:35 Nov 8 05:26 Nov 15 10:01 Nov 23 13:07
Nov 30 21:37 Dec 7 14:03 Dec 15 03:12 Dec 23 08:45
Dec 30 09:09 P

http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclips...hases1701.html

[I have no idea what the letters mean, nor the time "subheading":
00h00m -in this case.

00h00m indicates a degree of accuracy. Inaccuracy being measured in
hours and minutes. (I think.)

3 Jan 02:04 A. (Anticyclonic)
9 Jan 17:21 A.
Also the possibility of mists.

Therefore the likelihood of tropical storms having occurred in which
case the local weather would have been affected.

However what has turned this into something interesting is that the
repetition is similar to those of the phases we are having from this
year to the middle of 2010.

16 Jan 18:04 C. (Col)
24 Jan 23:06 A.
1 Feb 12:53 L. (Low)
8 Feb 04:49 A.
15 Feb 13:18 L.
23 Feb 16:24 R. (Ridge of high pressure or the A to the west of the
UK.*)
Also the possibility of mists.

I was trying to use a shorthand code to indicate what I thought the
weather would do according to the phase. Today, instead of using the
term "Col" which is accurate enough in some places, I'd use the term
instability or Unstable Spell.

I think I believed that the times of 4~ and 10~ were the same as or
closely similar to 2~ and 8~ of the clock.

TBH, I'm not sure what I think now.

2 Mar 21:03
9 Mar 16:49
17 Mar 09:35
Also the possibility of mists.

25 Mar 06:31
Also the possibility of mists.

1 Apr 03:40
Also the possibility of mists.

8 Apr 05:24
Also the possibility of mists.

16 Apr 05:13
23 Apr 17:24
Also the possibility of mists.

30 Apr 09:54
7 May 18:46
15 May 22:41
Also the possibility of mists.

23 May 01:54
29 May 16:48
6 Jun 09:07
14 Jun 13:03
21 Jun 09:07
28 Jun 01:20
Also the possibility of mists.

6 Jul 00:21
14 Jul 00:12
20 Jul 16:04
27 Jul 12:22
Also the possibility of mists.

4 Aug 15:52
12 Aug 08:48
Also the possibility of mists.

18 Aug 23:40
Also the possibility of mists.

26 Aug 02:35
Also the possibility of mists.

3 Sep 06:51
10 Sep 15:48
Also the possibility of mists.

17 Sep 08:41
24 Sep 20:06
2 Oct 20:47
9 Oct 22:20
Also the possibility of mists.

16 Oct 19:54
24 Oct 16:12
Also the possibility of mists.

1 Nov 09:35
8 Nov 05:26
Also the possibility of mists.

15 Nov 10:01
23 Nov 13:07
30 Nov 21:37
Also the possibility of mists.

7 Dec 14:03
15 Dec 03:12
23 Dec 08:45
30 Dec 09:09

I obviously never bothered filling all the spells in just the ones
that gave rise to mists. 3~ and 9~ o'clock phase times normally bring
thundery weather. Or at least humid stuff.

*This could mean dry weather depending on the declination of the moon.
But the SE of England tends to get wet weather from France in these
conditions.

The North Atlantic was extremely negative that year and there would
have been a number of serious volcanic eruptions along with a late
start to the Hurricane season. (Which hurricanes would have tended to
divert through the Azores to the Barents Sea.)

There would have been a lot of activity in the Aleutians. It is semi
desert these days but then would have been virtually uninhabited I
imagine. Unless the place was populated by people who had no defence
against influenza.

Early contact with them might have given them avian~ or Spanish~ flu.
So who knows?

Seriously devastating storms would have struck the Philippines and
Vietnam as well as China and various other places susceptible to typhoons-
as has been noted this year.)

This year was 2006.

Now I have realised what causes the negativity of the NAO, I shall not
be able to sleep tonight. Thanks John!

I hadn't got it quite right then but I was getting there.

I'll do the actual forecast some other time. But it won't be anywhere
near accurate if I am correct about the NAO. But at least that will
show up in the records. Of course if the blighter lived in the SE of
England his records will not fit the code which is based on the North
West of England and North Wales's weather tendencies.

It will now.

Perhaps if I just have a stab at placing the air masses....

...Oh Bloody Hell!

He lived near Peterborough.
:http://www.lyndon-estate.co.uk/

Peterborough is in the Fenns -our version of the Mississippi Delta.
Mostly drained now and suffering from erosion, the region was once a
controlled water margin with housing built on jetties, the people
living on fish.

Drained from Roman times it became a peat marsh. Then with powered
mills, a low lying area. Windmills were in use in the 18th century.
Electrical pumps are used today. They grow tulips and crocuses the


http://maps.google.com/maps?q=saffro...num=1&ct=image

It is a region of mists still. In the good old days, things would have
been a lot mistier.

Ass long as I have the net, I'll be watching radar...

Fievel.. :-)



"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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On Sep 8, 1:57 am, wrote:

As far as mist, fog, drizzle or any other weather was present, you
would need to see the local weather observations at the time.

I noticed in Britain last year we got foggy weather commensurate with
tropical storms out east somewhere. It hasn't been so noticeable this
year, not by any means.

Or was it in 2005 that the coincidence was marked? I can't remember.

Something on it he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...ists+typhoons#

It's 3 am here and I am too tired to try and understand what my point
was in the thread. It looks like I was having a fit again. And I
hadn't any understanding of your tornado stuff.

And that Carolinas effect is a recent discovery too. So don't worry
over it.

A bunch of tornadoes from a large super cell is the equivalent of a
hurricane or a major earthquake a Mag 7 or so.

When the weathermen are right and I am wrong it will be a storm and
when I am right and they are wrong it will be a quake is a rule of
thumb you could watch for.

http://www.met.inf.cu/asp/genesis.as...csbMaxw01a.gif

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
...
http://www.met.inf.cu/asp/genesis.as...csbMaxw01a.gif

Ty, but it didn't load.
Could you please give me the English page?

Ty Much..

Fievel.

On Sep 11, 12:24*am, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"
wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

...

http://www.met.inf.cu/asp/genesis.as...TB1=RADAR&TB2=.....

Ty, but it didn't load.

It looks like an expired link.

Could you please give me the English page?

It doesn't appear to have one.

I take it you tried deleting sections of the URL until you got as far
back in the server as you could go? And tried the Home Page? There are
some good links on there but again they are in Spanish.

Perhaps if you found a useful phrase that you could plug into Google
or a search engine of your choice you could find a translation of the
page required?

Something like this:
"Aviso de Ciclón Tropical"

For Google, you need to include the quotation marks as the search
parameters will hold together better that way. Exempli gratia:

http://gulf-coast-hurricanes.blogspo...an-gustav.html

On Sep 11, 12:24 am, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"
wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

...

http://www.met.inf.cu/asp/genesis.as...TB1=RADAR&TB2=.....

Ty, but it didn't load.
Could you please give me the English page?

You might consider using K-Meleon. It has a built in set of
translation tools:

Tools Translation Spanish (Choose language from list.)

On Sep 8, 7:05*pm, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"
wrote:

As long as I have the net, I'll be watching radar...

http://www.cma.gov.cn/en/

China by darklight.