Wow. Look at the Hurricane Palin "floater"...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html

Coffee in Guantanamo Bay

On Nov 8, 3:42*pm, Coffee in Madrid wrote:
Wow. Look at the Hurricane Palin "floater"...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html

Coffee in Guantanamo Bay

Global cooling, uh-huh. One thing that's for certain, though -
Hurricane PALOMA, not Palin, is certaintly packing a powerful punch.
It was a Category 4 when it struck the Cayman Islands. How many
Category 4 storms has the North Atlantic seen this year, anyway?

On Nov 8, 9:37*pm, john fernbach wrote:
On Nov 8, 3:42*pm, Coffee in Madrid wrote:

Wow. Look at the Hurricane Palin "floater"...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html

Coffee in Guantanamo Bay

Global cooling, uh-huh. *One thing that's for certain, though -
Hurricane PALOMA, not Palin, is certainly packing a powerful punch.
It was a Category 4 when it struck the Cayman Islands. *How many
Category 4 storms has the North Atlantic seen this year, anyway?

Never ending armies of idiots locate a storm or lack thereof as the
keynote of the next global trend.

The fact is that seen from below they are heat empowered but from
above they are caused by the cold. The overall effect is a closed
session of physical interactions.

In article
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john fernbach wrote:

On Nov 8, 3:42*pm, Coffee in Madrid wrote:
Wow. Look at the Hurricane Palin "floater"...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html

Coffee in Guantanamo Bay

Global cooling, uh-huh.

irony.

On Nov 8, 3:37*pm, john fernbach wrote:
On Nov 8, 3:42*pm, Coffee in Madrid wrote:

Wow. Look at the Hurricane Palin "floater"...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html

Coffee in Guantanamo Bay

Global cooling, uh-huh. *One thing that's for certain, though -
Hurricane PALOMA, not Palin, is certaintly packing a powerful punch.
It was a Category 4 when it struck the Cayman Islands. *How many
Category 4 storms has the North Atlantic seen this year, anyway?

Not as many as the agwers have been predicting. Actually less than the
average.

"Tunderbar" wrote in message
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On Nov 8, 3:37 pm, john fernbach wrote:
On Nov 8, 3:42 pm, Coffee in Madrid wrote:

Wow. Look at the Hurricane Palin "floater"...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html

Coffee in Guantanamo Bay

Global cooling, uh-huh. One thing that's for certain, though -
Hurricane PALOMA, not Palin, is certaintly packing a powerful punch.
It was a Category 4 when it struck the Cayman Islands. How many
Category 4 storms has the North Atlantic seen this year, anyway?

Not as many as the agwers have been predicting. Actually less than the
average.
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They have been predicting numbers? If you say so.

Tunderbar wrote:

Not as many as the agwers have been predicting. Actually less than the
average.

You are a liar.

With an ACE of 141 the 2008 hurricane season is well above normal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accumulated_Cyclone_Energy

On all other metrics, it is WELL above normal.

Any way you look at it, 2008 was very active.

On Nov 10, 4:55*pm, Tunderbar wrote:
On Nov 8, 3:37*pm, john fernbach wrote:

On Nov 8, 3:42*pm, Coffee in Madrid wrote:

Wow. Look at the Hurricane Palin "floater"...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html

Coffee in Guantanamo Bay

Global cooling, uh-huh. *One thing that's for certain, though -
Hurricane PALOMA, not Palin, is certaintly packing a powerful punch.
It was a Category 4 when it struck the Cayman Islands. *How many
Category 4 storms has the North Atlantic seen this year, anyway?

Not as many as the agwers have been predicting. Actually less than the
average.

What's the average, Tunderbar?

Could you cite some easily acceptable electronic source for this, one
we can trust? I'm kinda curious.

Tunderbar - please forgive my laziness. You don't need to look up how
many hurricanes and "major" hurricanes the 2008 seasons has produced,
nor how this compares with the long-term averages. I checked the web
myself.

Sorry - but the numbers just don't support your answer that the number
of Category 4 hurricanes has been "actually, less than the average."
Here are the cites:
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(1)

From a NOAA press release, 2006:
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/s2634.htm

On average, the north Atlantic hurricane season produces 11 named
storms, with six becoming hurricanes, including two major hurricanes.

In 2005, the Atlantic hurricane season contained a record 28 storms,
including 15 hurricanes. Seven of these hurricanes were considered
"major," of which a record four hit the United States. "Although NOAA
is not forecasting a repeat of last year's season, the potential for
hurricanes striking the U.S. is high," added Lautenbacher.

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(2)

From a SCIENCE DAILY news story, citing William Gray of Colorado State
University:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0409133718.htm

ScienceDaily (Apr. 10, 2008) — The Colorado State University forecast
team upgraded its early season forecast today from the Bahamas Weather
Conference, saying the U.S. Atlantic basin will likely experience a
well above-average hurricane season.


"Current oceanic and atmospheric trends indicate that we will likely
have an active Atlantic basin hurricane season," said William Gray,
who is beginning his 25th year forecasting hurricanes at Colorado
State University.

The team's forecast now anticipates 15 named storms forming in the
Atlantic basin between June 1 and Nov. 30. Eight of the storms are
predicted to become hurricanes, and of those eight, four are expected
to develop into intense or major hurricanes (Saffir/Simpson category
3-4-5) with sustained winds of 111 mph or greater.

** Long-term averages are 9.6 named storms, 5.9 hurricanes and 2.3
intense hurricanes per year. ***

*** = emphasis added by J. Fernbach
=================================================

From the National Hurricane Center at http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2008atlan.shtml

This web pages indicates we’ve seen eight hurricanes so far in 2008,
and 17 named storms. That's more than the averages cited in the
Science Daily story.

2008 Atlantic Hurricane Season

SNIP.

• Tropical Storm Arthur – PDF – MSWord
• Hurricane Bertha – PDF – MSWord
• Tropical Storm Cristobal – PDF – MSWord
• Hurricane Dolly
• Tropical Storm Edouard
• Tropical Storm Fay
• Hurricane Gustav
• Hurricane Hanna
• Hurricane Ike
• Tropical Storm Josephine
• Hurricane Kyle
• Subropical Storm Laura
• Tropical Storm Marco
• Tropical Storm Nana
• Hurricane Omar
• Tropical Depression Sixteen
• Hurricane Paloma

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(3)

From Wikipedia, 2008 hurricane season:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_At...rricane_season

Wikipedia indicates that there were 5 (FIVE) “major” hurricanes in
2008 so far, with “major” being Cat 3 and upwards.

[CF Dr. William Gray’s forecast of 4 “major” storms of Category 3 or
greater.]

Three of the Major hurricanes became Category 4 storms, at least
briefly: Gustav, Ike, and Omar (very briefly).

Ironically, one of the "weak" Hurricanes, Hurricane Dolly, reached
only Category 2 intensity, but was the fourth-costliest hurricane in
Texas history, because of the flooding it inflicted on the Galveston/
Houston area.