On 07 Jul 2003 21:00:04 GMT,
Claire W. Gilbert , in
wrote:

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+ "David Ball" wrote in message
+ ...
+ On 05 Jul 2003 02:30:25 GMT, "Claire W. Gilbert"
+ wrote:

+ Terrific! You've identified something is happening. Now tell
+ me exactly what it is? And please, no hand-waving arguments. I'll ask
+ the question again: have you seen some scholarship that proves a
+ definitive link between the tornado outbreaks in May in the US and
+ climate change? If so, please provide a citation.

+ Idiot. Science is building testable theories upon observations.
+ Observations can come from many sources, and tests can also come from many
+ sources.

Yes, and? have you built a theory that is testable? or do you want
want to just wave your hands and say "trust me"?

Or just sling insults?

Sorry, just back from a week in Japan, so I'm a little behind the
curve...

James
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I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow
isn't looking good, either.
I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated.

On 07 Jul 2003 21:00:04 GMT, "Claire W. Gilbert"
wrote:

Idiot. Science is building testable theories upon observations.
Observations can come from many sources, and tests can also come from many
sources.

And what has been tested, Lady, besides everyone's patience?
All you've done is leap to an unwarrented conclusion. Nothing more.
Increased severe weather occurrence is quite likely as GW proceeds,
but to date no research has been able to show a statistically
significant upward trend. Until they do, you're blowing smoke.

"Mike18XX" wrote in message
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In article ,
David Ball wrote:

On 07 Jul 2003 21:00:04 GMT, "Claire W. Gilbert"
wrote:

Idiot. Science is building testable theories upon observations.
Observations can come from many sources, and tests can also come from
many
sources.

And what has been tested, Lady, besides everyone's patience?
All you've done is leap to an unwarrented conclusion. Nothing more.
Increased severe weather occurrence is quite likely as GW proceeds,
but to date no research has been able to show a statistically
significant upward trend. Until they do, you're blowing smoke.


What "increased" severe weather?

Color me one of those skeptics who thinks it's not the amount of severe
weather that's increasing, so much as population getting in the way of
it.

That isn't skepticism. That is agreeing with the poster ( David ). No
scientist has claimed research showing an increase in severe weather or a
causal link to global warming.

Actually there are many factors in the statistics of extreme weather,
including the increase in infrastructure value, the higher population
levels, inflation, etc. Balanced out, you cannot find justification in
insurance payouts, despite their large increase, for a statistically
significant increase. It is still not proven, as David points out.


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David Ball wrote in message . ..
On 4 Jul 2003 12:38:29 -0700, (Trewth Seeker)
wrote:

David Ball wrote in message . ..

The WMO issued a press release.
Nothing more.

I gather that you revere form over substance.

Actually, I revere intelligence over stupidity.

That would explain your low self esteem, since only an idiot
would write "The WMO issued a press release. Nothing more."
and think that they had expressed anything substantive or noteworthy.

On 13 Jul 2003 23:09:28 -0700, (Trewth Seeker)
wrote:

David Ball wrote in message . ..
On 4 Jul 2003 12:38:29 -0700, (Trewth Seeker)
wrote:

David Ball wrote in message . ..

The WMO issued a press release.
Nothing more.

I gather that you revere form over substance.

Actually, I revere intelligence over stupidity.

That would explain your low self esteem, since only an idiot
would write "The WMO issued a press release. Nothing more."
and think that they had expressed anything substantive or noteworthy.

LOL. But that's exactly what they did. Now you can try to make
more of it than is really there, but that would be a pretty stupid
thing to do. They made note of some interesting weather and said
specifically it MIGHT have a GW footprint. It's only a few twits who
are attempting to make more of it than is really necessary.

David Ball wrote in message . ..
On 13 Jul 2003 23:09:28 -0700, (Trewth Seeker)
wrote:

David Ball wrote in message . ..
On 4 Jul 2003 12:38:29 -0700, (Trewth Seeker)
wrote:

David Ball wrote in message . ..

The WMO issued a press release.
Nothing more.

I gather that you revere form over substance.

Actually, I revere intelligence over stupidity.

That would explain your low self esteem, since only an idiot
would write "The WMO issued a press release. Nothing more."
and think that they had expressed anything substantive or noteworthy.

LOL. But that's exactly what they did.

And again you think you're saying something substantive or noteworthy;
what a git. If someone finds a cure for cancer, they'll issue a press
release. The *form* of the communication isn't relevant, only the
substance.

Now you can try to make
more of it than is really there,

Or you can try to make less.

but that would be a pretty stupid
thing to do. They made note of some interesting weather and said
specifically it MIGHT have a GW footprint.

Even if that were an accurate assessment, it still goes beyond
the non-substantive "issued a press release".

It's only a few twits who
are attempting to make more of it than is really necessary.

Hypocrite.

On 14 Jul 2003 14:16:57 -0700, (Trewth Seeker)
wrote:

Now you can try to make
more of it than is really there,

Or you can try to make less.

I'm making note of exactly what they said. What's your excuse?


but that would be a pretty stupid
thing to do. They made note of some interesting weather and said
specifically it MIGHT have a GW footprint.

Even if that were an accurate assessment, it still goes beyond
the non-substantive "issued a press release".

LOL. That's exactly what they said. Feel free to expound at
length on what you think was really said.