Just a note about the recent weather we are having in W. Europe.

My much reviled method is well and truly “wrong”. I’m not in bad company
there though. As a matter of fact this is a portent of something that
may be about to occur when this spell breaks. Look out for the next
lunar phase on the 8th Dec.

Should I hope I’m wrong?

It would make Felix Silly happy at least.

Dates For Lunar Phases, Hurricanes And Earthquakes in 1992:

04 Jan. 23:10f
13 Jan. 02:32#
19 Jan. 21:28#
26 Jan. 15:27#
EQ 1 Feb. Japan.
03 Feb. 19:00w
EQ 04 Feb. Indonesia.
11 Feb. 16:15wb
EQ 13 Feb. Vanuatu Islands.
EQ 14 Feb. South Africa
18 Feb. 08:04f*
25 Feb. 07:56f*
EQ 27 Eastern New Guinea.
EQ 02 Kamchatka.
EQ 04 Bismarck Sea.
EQ 04 N. Iran.
04 Mar. 13:22#Wb
12 Mar 02:36#
EQ 07 Costa Rica.
EQ 13 Turkey.
Q 15 Turkey.
18 Mar. 18:18#Cb
26 Mar. 02:30#
03 Apr. 05:01f
EQ 03 P.N.G.
EQ 06 Vancouver Island region.
10 Apr. 10:06w
EQ 13 Netherlands.
17 Apr. 04:42#Fb
EQ 23 S. California.
EQ 23 Myanmar-China border region.
24 Apr. 21:40#Wb
EQ 25 Near coast of N. California.
EQ 26 Near coast of N. California.
02 May. 17:44cb
09 May. 15:43wb
EQ 12 Samoa Islands.
EQ 15 P.N.G.
EQ 15 Kyrgyzstan.
16 May. 16:03w
EQ 17 Mindanao, Philippines.
EQ 19 Western Arabian Peninsula.
EQ 20 Pakistan.
EQ 21 S. Xinjiang, China. Probable underground nuclear explosion.
24 May. 15:53f
01 Jun. 03:57w
07 Jun. 20:47cb
15 Jun. 04:50fb*
23 Jun. 08:11fb*
EQ 25 Cuba Region.
EQ 27 Santa Cruz Islands.
EQ 25 Kermadec Islands Region.
EQ 28 S. California.
30 Jun. 12:18#Cb*
07 Jun. 02:43#Cb*
EQ 09 S. California.
EQ 10 Kuril Islands.
14 Jul 19:06w*
EQ 14 Turkey.
EQ 18 Japan.
EQ 20 Svalbard region.
22 Jul. 22:12wb*
29 Jul. 19:35#
EQ 02 Halmahera, Indonesia.
05 Aug. 10:58f
EQ 07 Gulf of Alaska.
13 Aug. 10:27#
Hurricane Andrew Aug. 16 –Aug 28.
EQ 19 Kyrgyzstan.
21 Aug. 10:01w
28 Aug. 02:42#Cb
EQ 28 Pakistan.
EQ 28 N.of Ascension Island.

EQ 02 Near coast of Nicaragua.
03 Sept. 22:39#Fb*
EQ 08 S. Iran.
EQ 11 Zaire.
12 Sept. 02:17#Fb*
Hurricane Bonnie Sept. 17 –Oct 22.
19 Sept. 19:53fb*
Hurricane Charley Sept. 21 –Sep 29.
Tropical Storm Danielle Sept. 22 -Sept. 26.
Tropical Storm Earl Sept. 26 -Oct3.
26 Sept. 10:40#fb*
September.
EQ 26 Halmahera, Indonesia.
EQ 30 Andreanof Islands, Aleutians.
03 Oct. 14:12fb*
11 Oct. 18:03c
EQ 11 Vanuatu Islands.
EQ 12 Egypt.
EQ 15 Vanuatu Islands.
EQ 17 Vanuatu Islands.
EQ 17 N. Colombia.
EQ 18 N. Colombia.
19 Oct. 04:12fb
Hurricane Frances Oct 22 –Oct 30, 1992.
EQ 22 Kermadec Islands, NZ.
EQ 22 Egypt.
EQ 23 Morocco.
EQ 23 P.N.G.
EQ 23 E. Caucasus.
EQ 24 Kermadec Islands, NZ.
25 Oct. 20:34#
02 Nov. 09:11cb*
02 Switzerland. Six people killed by the accidental explosion of an
ammunitions cavern.
EQ 08 Fiji Islands Region.
10 Nov. 09:20#cb*
17 Nov. 11:39#cb*
EQ 21 S. Sandwich Islands.
24 Nov. 09:11cb*
02 Dec. 06:17cb*
09 Dec. 23:41cb*
EQ 09 E. Caucasus.
EQ 12 Flores Region, Indonesia.
16 Dec. 19:13wb*
EQ 18 Yunnan, China.
EQ 20 Banda Sea.
24 Dec. 00:43wb*

Asterisks denote phases running consecutively that produce similar
spells.
Hashes denote phases that produce spells that I am unfamiliar with.
w= wet; b= breezy; c= changeable; f=fine.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/moonphase.html#y1992
http://weather.terrapin.com/hurrican...lay_storms.jsp

The problem with this link is that I want quakes of above magnitude 7:

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eqlists/sig_1992.html

Earthquakes of magnitude 6.5 or greater or ones that caused fatalities,
injuries or substantial damage. (October through December to be
recomputed.) Compiled by Waverly J. Person.

I would prefer to just use quakes of magnitude 7 and higher as the ones
that caused problems in the above list are due to poor husbandry. Planet
management is still in its infancy at the moment. Nobody likes the way
the earth is being run by the present rulers.

It will be nicer one day. In the meantime we have to work with what we
have. Even if this includes people with nothing better to do than post
abuse:


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On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:26:26 +0000 (UTC), "Michael McNeil"
wrote:

Just a note about the recent weather we are having in W. Europe.

My much reviled method is well and truly “wrong”. I’m not in bad company
there though. As a matter of fact this is a portent of something that
may be about to occur when this spell breaks. Look out for the next
lunar phase on the 8th Dec.

Should I hope I’m wrong?

You've been wrong all along so far, so since you have acknowledged
your method is wrong, why not get a new one.

Now, why do you avoid answering when people ask you to explain what it
is exactly you don't like about Doppler shifts?

In your answer, I would like you to begin by offering an alternative
for the intrinsic values of stars, the observed rotation of galaxies,
cepheid variables, and Type 1 Supernovae light curves.

Oh, and Bob wants you to explain rr Lyrae Stars as well, since that
also comes into the picture.

What are you afraid of?


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On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:22:20 GMT, Wally Anglesea™
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:26:26 +0000 (UTC), "Michael McNeil"
wrote:

Just a note about the recent weather we are having in W. Europe.

My much reviled method is well and truly “wrong”. I’m not in bad company
there though. As a matter of fact this is a portent of something that
may be about to occur when this spell breaks. Look out for the next
lunar phase on the 8th Dec.

Should I hope I’m wrong?

You've been wrong all along so far, so since you have acknowledged
your method is wrong, why not get a new one.

Now, why do you avoid answering when people ask you to explain what it
is exactly you don't like about Doppler shifts?

In your answer, I would like you to begin by offering an alternative
for the intrinsic values of stars, the observed rotation of galaxies,
cepheid variables, and Type 1 Supernovae light curves.

Oh, and Bob wants you to explain rr Lyrae Stars as well, since that
also comes into the picture.

Sorry, rr Taurids.



What are you afraid of?

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"Wally Anglesea™" wrote in
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If you want me to explain the behaviour of light from outside this solar
system, I can't.

Any errors in the present theories will have to await some future time
and perhaps person. I'm a little busy at the moment.

As for the doppler effect. Whoever you seem to be speaking for will have
to wait too. The reason I asked the poster to answer me first was to get
him to show he wasn't just another one of your lot of secondary motions.

Why reactionaries like you must waste their time doing the stupid things
you do is beyond me. None of my business though so far.


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On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:02:16 +0000 (UTC), "Michael McNeil"
wrote:

"Wally Anglesea™" wrote in
message
If you want me to explain the behaviour of light from outside this solar
system, I can't.


Why do you think it's different than the light *within* the solar
system?

We can proceed from that, if you have any evidence that it is.



Any errors in the present theories will have to await some future time
and perhaps person. I'm a little busy at the moment.

Avoidance noted. Your position then, is something along these lines:

"I don't understand enough about the subject, but I'm going to make a
claim then refuse to back it up, because I have no backup to give, and
I'm going to cover my ears, and not learn, because if I get an
education, it might upset my vision of how the universe should be, and
my beliefs are so tenuous that the whole thing may fall apart like a
deck of cards"

That explains a lot.


As for the doppler effect. Whoever you seem to be speaking for will have
to wait too.

I speak for myself, I'm interested in what alternatives you have.
Really. However, since you evidenlty do NOT have ANY alternatives
whatsoever, we can pretty much dismiss all of your subsequent claims.


The reason I asked the poster to answer me first was to get
him to show he wasn't just another one of your lot of secondary motions.

Doppler isn't secondary. Your knowledge of physics is very much on
topic, since it also applies to the Earth, Seismology, Sunspots,
Solar Flares, and CME's. From that we can proceed showing you why you
have no clue.


Why reactionaries like you must waste their time doing the stupid things
you do is beyond me. None of my business though so far.

I'm not a reactionary, I want you to back up your claim that the
Doppler effect is wrong, (or words to that effect).

You made the claim. Not only I am waiting.


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"Wally Anglesea™" wrote in
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We can proceed from that, if you have any evidence that it is.
Who is we?


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On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:08:03 +0000 (UTC), "Michael McNeil"
wrote:

"Wally Anglesea™" wrote in
message
We can proceed from that, if you have any evidence that it is.
Who is we?

The two of us and anyone watchoing. Speak-a de english??

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In article
lgate.org,
"Michael McNeil" wrote:

"Wally Anglesea™" wrote in
message
If you want me to explain the behaviour of light from outside this solar
system, I can't.

Why would there be some difference? Do the laws of physics operate
differently there?

Any errors in the present theories will have to await some future time
and perhaps person. I'm a little busy at the moment.

As for the doppler effect. Whoever you seem to be speaking for will have
to wait too. The reason I asked the poster to answer me first was to get
him to show he wasn't just another one of your lot of secondary motions.

I don't know Wally. (Hi, Wally, Pleased to meet you.) I was just
surprised by your blanket rejection of the Doppler effect. If you had
something to contribute to science that would counter the usual
explanations of the effect, I'm sure that I'm not the only one who would
want to hear about it.

But let me tell you something. The "too busy" line is one I hear
commonly from crackpots who say they refute commonly accepted theories.
Iusuallyhear it after I ask those crackpots to explain the theories they
refute. Why should you explain the theory? I suppose that if you
actually understand what the theory in question is, then you can
honestly say you've considered it and found the flaws in it. Otherwise,
all this demurring just leads me to think you're a crackpot.

The Doppler effect is really very simple and straihtforward. It's in
every high school physics textbook. Surely you could explain it ... and
what you think is wrong with it ... without taking up so much of your
valuable time.


Why reactionaries like you must waste their time doing the stupid things
you do is beyond me. None of my business though so far.

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http://www.timberwoof.com

In article
lgate.org,
"Michael McNeil" wrote:

"Wally Anglesea™" wrote in
message
We can proceed from that, if you have any evidence that it is.
Who is we?

I am willing to hold off on making any decision until the facts are in.
However, your'e taking the time to read this newsgroup, yet you haven't
taken the time to just explain the Doppler effect and why you think it's
wrong, so I am beginning to doubt you know what you're talking about.

Look, you've made some remarkable claims. All I ask is some remarkable
evidence to back them up. Nothing special.

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On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:49:45 GMT, Timberwoof
wrote:

In article
ilgate.org,
"Michael McNeil" wrote:

"Wally Anglesea™" wrote in
message
If you want me to explain the behaviour of light from outside this solar
system, I can't.

Why would there be some difference? Do the laws of physics operate
differently there?

Any errors in the present theories will have to await some future time
and perhaps person. I'm a little busy at the moment.

As for the doppler effect. Whoever you seem to be speaking for will have
to wait too. The reason I asked the poster to answer me first was to get
him to show he wasn't just another one of your lot of secondary motions.

I don't know Wally. (Hi, Wally, Pleased to meet you.)

Hi.

I was just
surprised by your blanket rejection of the Doppler effect. If you had
something to contribute to science that would counter the usual
explanations of the effect, I'm sure that I'm not the only one who would
want to hear about it.

But let me tell you something. The "too busy" line is one I hear
commonly from crackpots who say they refute commonly accepted theories.
Iusuallyhear it after I ask those crackpots to explain the theories they
refute. Why should you explain the theory? I suppose that if you
actually understand what the theory in question is, then you can
honestly say you've considered it and found the flaws in it. Otherwise,
all this demurring just leads me to think you're a crackpot.

You are a tad more patient than I am :-))


The Doppler effect is really very simple and straihtforward. It's in
every high school physics textbook. Surely you could explain it ... and
what you think is wrong with it ... without taking up so much of your
valuable time.


So, MM, now there are THREE people interested in your assertion. I
assume each of us, yourself included has at least a High school
education, so let's discuss the basic physics which you dismiss. Give
us your reasoning.




Why reactionaries like you must waste their time doing the stupid things
you do is beyond me. None of my business though so far.

Nothing stupid about asking someone to backup an assertion.

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