Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:48:32 -0600 Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
(about half snipped)


Unless humanity starts making a Earth AirConditioner then I predict
that the
summers will become so very hot almost every forthcoming year that
instead of 3
successive hurricanes in Florida in 2004 that there will be 4 or 5
successive
Hurricanes in Florida for 2005 and for 2006 there maybe 5 or 6
successive major
hurricanes in Florida to make the state uninhabitable.

As Earth gets hotter and hotter via global warming not only will
coasts begin to
go underwater from polar ice cap melting but that the first major
economic
effects is to render large portions of land uninhabitable due to
Hurricane
increases. So that Florida and Texas in large proportion will be too
dangerous to
live.

So it is imperative to start to plan, construct and put in place Earth

AirConditioner.

It would be nice if a CFC-variant molecule has NaCl attached and can
float into
the stratosphere by itself. But if none such exists, then we have to
build a CFNa
and a CFCl molecule that does self transport and once in the upper
atmosphere
recombines to form salt which reflects a given amount of sunlight to
cool Earth
to a temperature that is most agreeable to the human population size.

I say that because if the human population were 2 billion instead of
its current
7 billion then there probably would not be a global warming to fix.


I am not even a meteorologists but here I will proffer a prediction
because unlike general weather patterns, hurricanes are very much a
localized phenomenon in a direct mathematical proportion to the amount
of heat given the ocean near Florida and Texas. So that as Global
Warming accelerates then the amount of heat in the oceans increases in
direct proportion and thus the number of hurricanes increasing every
year.

So based on the fact that Florida saw 3 major hurricanes in 2004, that
this year of 2005 will be witness to 4 major hurricanes in the Florida
and Texas regions. And that by 2006 those states will see 5 major
hurricanes.

Ironic that the USA is doing almost nothing on Global Warming except
make it worse and that the USA will be forced to do something because
hurricanes will destroy many of the Gulf states and that if this
prediction comes true then those states will be rendered uninhabitable
due to the massive destruction every year.

And if this prediction comes true, then the news for 2005 and 2006 and
2007 etc etc will not be so much about Iraq, nor social-security, nor
much of anything else but be focused mostly on one hurricane disaster
after another during the summertime in the USA.

And Europe will not get a respite either for their summers will be
filled with record heat temperatures and increased flooding.

So, I really have something to look forward for this summer, to see if
my predictions pan out and that as soon as one major hurricane
devastates Florida, another is forming. And the only sensible way to
live in Florida will be a trailer for winter and the rest of the year
uninhabitable.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

I do not know the relationship of Elnino to that of hurricane frequency.
Considering one Elnino is already causing flooding in California whether
that decreases the prospects of hurricanes in the Atlantic this summer. I
seem to remember no Elninos last year when we had 3 hurricanes. So whether
Elninos decrease hurricanes in the Atlantic is a factor to reckon with and
whether we end up with 4 major hurricanes this summer.

One factor in favor of 4 hurricanes this summer is the unusually mild
winter so far in that we had no snow where I live until a few weeks ago and
was able to work outdoors up until the last week of December. As if Autumn
lasted until the end of December. Usually in this area, starting the
beginning of November everything comes to a standstill for the outdoors.

So the extra heat of 2004 bodes in favor of 4 hurricanes this summer, but
whether the Elninos will divert and thus decrease the hurricane frequency
remains to be seen.

Question: I wonder if Elnino frequency is a direct correlation to global
warming. I suppose we had them in past centuries but so hard to keep a
record of their events. But I wonder if the frequency of Elninos is
directly related to global warming more so than hurricane frequency.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

"Archimedes Plutonium" wrote in message
...

I am not even a meteorologists but here I will proffer a prediction
because unlike general weather patterns, hurricanes are very much a
localized phenomenon in a direct mathematical proportion to the amount
of heat given the ocean near Florida and Texas. So that as Global
Warming accelerates then the amount of heat in the oceans increases in
direct proportion and thus the number of hurricanes increasing every
year.

Assuming currents don't change.

So based on the fact that Florida saw 3 major hurricanes in 2004, that
this year of 2005 will be witness to 4 major hurricanes in the Florida
and Texas regions. And that by 2006 those states will see 5 major
hurricanes.

And by 2076 we'll be up to 75.

So, I really have something to look forward for this summer, to see if
my predictions pan out ...

They won't

....and that as soon as one major hurricane
devastates Florida, another is forming. And the only sensible way to
live in Florida will be a trailer for winter and the rest of the year
uninhabitable.

Well, if it keeps so many people from moving here ...

Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:24:28 GMT "Tim K." wrote:

"Archimedes Plutonium" wrote in message
...

I am not even a meteorologists but here I will proffer a prediction
because unlike general weather patterns, hurricanes are very much a
localized phenomenon in a direct mathematical proportion to the amount
of heat given the ocean near Florida and Texas. So that as Global
Warming accelerates then the amount of heat in the oceans increases in
direct proportion and thus the number of hurricanes increasing every
year.

Assuming currents don't change.

So based on the fact that Florida saw 3 major hurricanes in 2004, that
this year of 2005 will be witness to 4 major hurricanes in the Florida
and Texas regions. And that by 2006 those states will see 5 major
hurricanes.

And by 2076 we'll be up to 75.


No, that is not how a direct correlation to global warming and frequency of
hurricanes works. It works on the fact that the oceans get hotter in direct
proportion to the hotter summers caused by global warming so that all past
records of hurricane frequency will be matched and then topped. I forgotten
when Texas had 3 major hurricanes last, whether it was 1981??? Anyway with
global warming then those records should be topped and it was in 2004 when
Florida had 3 or more major hurricanes. And because global warming gets
hotter and hotter the capacity for the oceans to retain more heat and
unleash the heat in a hurricane increases. Thus 2005 is likely to have 4
hurricanes this summer in Texas and Florida topping the previous record of
3. And because global warming is accelerating means that the heat capacity
of the oceans should allow for a summer to top even 4 hurricanes with 5
major hurricanes.

Then it becomes in direct math proportion that Florida and Texas has 5
major hurricanes during the summer for the next 20 years and then it has 6
major hurricanes every summer for the successive 20 years and they 7 for
the next 20 years.

Facts: oceans retain heat and must release that heat. Global Warming
increases the oceanic heat, thus the frequency of hurricanes increases in
direct proportion.

Provided the El Ninos this year do not divert the heat to the oceans, then
Florida and Texas can expect at least 3 major hurricanes if not topped off
by 4 major hurricanes for the summer of 2005. If Global Warming is
unchecked and allowed to continue at present rates, then the states of
Florida and Texas will be rendered uninhabitable as too dangerous for
permanent residence.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

nightbat wrote

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:24:28 GMT "Tim K." wrote:

"Archimedes Plutonium" wrote in message
...

I am not even a meteorologists but here I will proffer a prediction
because unlike general weather patterns, hurricanes are very much a
localized phenomenon in a direct mathematical proportion to the amount
of heat given the ocean near Florida and Texas. So that as Global
Warming accelerates then the amount of heat in the oceans increases in
direct proportion and thus the number of hurricanes increasing every
year.

Assuming currents don't change.

So based on the fact that Florida saw 3 major hurricanes in 2004, that
this year of 2005 will be witness to 4 major hurricanes in the Florida
and Texas regions. And that by 2006 those states will see 5 major
hurricanes.

And by 2076 we'll be up to 75.


No, that is not how a direct correlation to global warming and frequency of
hurricanes works. It works on the fact that the oceans get hotter in direct
proportion to the hotter summers caused by global warming so that all past
records of hurricane frequency will be matched and then topped. I forgotten
when Texas had 3 major hurricanes last, whether it was 1981??? Anyway with
global warming then those records should be topped and it was in 2004 when
Florida had 3 or more major hurricanes. And because global warming gets
hotter and hotter the capacity for the oceans to retain more heat and
unleash the heat in a hurricane increases. Thus 2005 is likely to have 4
hurricanes this summer in Texas and Florida topping the previous record of
3. And because global warming is accelerating means that the heat capacity
of the oceans should allow for a summer to top even 4 hurricanes with 5
major hurricanes.

Then it becomes in direct math proportion that Florida and Texas has 5
major hurricanes during the summer for the next 20 years and then it has 6
major hurricanes every summer for the successive 20 years and they 7 for
the next 20 years.

Facts: oceans retain heat and must release that heat. Global Warming
increases the oceanic heat, thus the frequency of hurricanes increases in
direct proportion.

Provided the El Ninos this year do not divert the heat to the oceans, then
Florida and Texas can expect at least 3 major hurricanes if not topped off
by 4 major hurricanes for the summer of 2005. If Global Warming is
unchecked and allowed to continue at present rates, then the states of
Florida and Texas will be rendered uninhabitable as too dangerous for
permanent residence.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

nightbat

Thanks Archy for those insightful predictions, I'll refer them on
to Florida loving Bert for his immediate scrutiny. At this rate everyone
is going to have to move inland apparently and Indiana might go from
wide open star gazing country to there goes the neighborhood.


the nightbat

nightbat wrote

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

Hi Archy,and nightbat. I don't love Florida. I loved Huntington beach
Ca. I came to Florida to make a buck. Buy a new house(cheap),and build
sail boats. Archy we get a weeks notice when hurricanes move across the
Atlantic. Predictions get very tricky when they are about 700 miles
south east of florida. They can turn north and go up by North Carolina.
Straight ahead and hit Miami or go past the Fl. Keys and turn up the
Gulf of Mexico to hit parts of Mexico Texas Lewisiana ,Alabama,and Fl.
Pan Handle. Archy if you could predict the tricky area with say 90%
accuracy you would become one of the richest men in the world. Nightbat
man came out of the ocean,and the ocean is part of his id.

nightbat

We all do love the beach and Indiana has the nicest beaches,
check out the dunes for fun. Michigan City has the longest beach and
boat Casino to try your luck. And don't forget Indiana beach and the 4th
of July fireworks. Darla must know that we love the water so we have
something in common. And our TV weatherman Mr. John Fisher has a 5
degree weather forecast accuracy, if he is ever wrong you can win the
pot of money as it grows because he is right most of the time.

Humankind
will never flock to Indiana, it has no shore line.

nightbat

What Indiana do you know Bert, sure it does, ever hear of Lake
Michigan?

In reality
man would rather be hi by a tidal wave (that's dynamic) than live in a
rainy,snowy,boring place the indians called Indiana.

nightbat

Ha, ha, ha, that's not what you were saying when the tri
hurricanes went through and left you with no roof, or pot to **** in.

You can't grow
Mexican sweet potatoes in Indiana.

nightbat

Sure you can, so many Mexican folks come up each summer to
harvest they love it, and some stay for good. They bring their Mexican
sweet potatoes and lots of other neat stuff so they don't miss a thing.

Darla who has been everywhere never
heard of Indiana.

nightbat

Ha, ha, ha, sure she does, for it's the wide open beautiful
fields of Indiana that would make a perfect landing site for the largest
mother ship with no problem. Darla knows that and wouldn't trust landing
in Florida with it's sink holes and all.

What is the population of Indiana? Compare it
with Fl.

nightbat

Both in the millions, but Florida's is seasonal, the hurricanes
make evacuation sure of that.

What is its state flower? How far is it from the Atlantic to
the Pacific?

nightbat

Indiana State flower is the Peony as adopted in 1957 by the
State Assembly. It's about 800-900 miles to the Atlantic and about
2100-2200 miles to the Pacific. Nice inland buffering against hurricanes
or tsunami's.

Why would anyone go to Indiana? Why live there? Is
watching corn grow the big outdoor activity?

nightbat

The best clear night skies with no very large city glare for
star viewing all year. So peaceful and friendly with lots of attractions
for fun. Great lake, Tippi river, or stream fishing, wild game hunting
especially deer, the fields are full of everything. Big houses, low
taxes, abundant natural gas for heating and industry. The most famous
tasting and elixir mushrooms sought the world over, with real friendly
Indians, they still make the best natural buckskin clothes for you, I
have mine. Boating, theme parks, State parks, Amish farms for natural
pure made food, Industry and car plants for lots of good paying jobs,
like the Hummer Arnold made famous. The cutest and healthiest milk and
corn feed girls, they have back. The best schools, like Notre Dame,
Purdue, and the freshest air for miles, and best tasting spring water.
So much when you come here to greet Darla and Star crew at the Air Force
base you may never leave. When the world runs out of oil Indiana will be
there with plenty of corn based gasohol.

Do any
millionaires have one of their homes there(I think not)

nightbat

Sure, ha, ha, ha, lots Bert, it's the low taxes that brings
them. Like ever hear of Oprah, late great famous actor James Dean, David
Letterman and family, Tom Petty, Larry Bird, Michael Jackson and family,
and Indiana speedway greats like Jeff Gordon. And Wilbur Wright the
inventor's home, remember the plane boss the plane.

Name me one
pretty movie star hat came from Indiana,and nightbat don't cheat and say
Britney Spears.


nightbat

I told you Oprah, and also Carol Lombard, Shelley Long, Janet
Jackson, Anne Baxter, and so many other starlets to many to mention.
Hoosier gals are golden and so sweet, you can't get enough of them.

I don't like Fl. but things could be worse I could have
ended up in Indiana. Bert PS Wish I was sailing along Huntington
Beach lying in the back stern lounge with two surfer girls helping me
drink my bud lite. those were the days

nightbat

Ha, ha, ha, you don't know what you're missing. And then what
about Darla star ship maidens prancing around nude, one in each arm
showing you the inter galactic sights, and asking can I fill that glass
up for you Mr. Bert some more?


the nightbat

We should be able to predict by numbers the likelihood of 4 major hurricanes
this summer for Florida and Texas.

We know when the last time 3 major hurricanes hit the coastal states was back
in the 1980s and the last time was 2004.

We know what the average world temperature was for the 1980s to 2004. We know
the size of the Atlantic and Gulf oceans and can compute the heat absorption
of those oceans.

We know how much the Global Warming increased world temperatures from 1980 to
2004 and can estimate the increase for 2005.

We can thence extrapolate how much of a heat absorption density for the
Atlantic and Gulf oceans to create one major hurricane.

We can thence use those numbers to predict the number of major hurricanes for
2005.

The only factor to upset those predictions that I can think of at this moment
is El Nino diversion. But if we ignore El Ninos for 2005 and work on those
numbers above then it should come out to be about 4 major hurricanes for the
Florida and Texas coasts for 2005.

So far this prediction is coming true as far as I can determine because we
have had a record warm winter in that it was more Autumn right up until the
first week of January. Here in midcontinent USA where I live, generally we are
batten down and hunckered down by November 1 with severe winter in place. This
year we experienced an Autumn type weather up until the first week of January.
Last year of 2003 we had winter come in at December 1 and we thence witnessed
3 major hurricanes in Florida for 2004.

So the outlook looks good for 4 majore hurricanes to Florida/Texas for the
2005 summer.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

nightbat wrote:
nightbat wrote

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

Hi Archy,and nightbat. I don't love Florida. I loved Huntington
beach
Ca. I came to Florida to make a buck. Buy a new house(cheap),and
build
sail boats. Archy we get a weeks notice when hurricanes move
across the
Atlantic. Predictions get very tricky when they are about 700
miles
south east of florida. They can turn north and go up by North
Carolina.
Straight ahead and hit Miami or go past the Fl. Keys and turn up
the
Gulf of Mexico to hit parts of Mexico Texas Lewisiana ,Alabama,and
Fl.
Pan Handle. Archy if you could predict the tricky area with say
90%
accuracy you would become one of the richest men in the world.
Nightbat
man came out of the ocean,and the ocean is part of his id.

nightbat

We all do love the beach and Indiana has the nicest beaches,
check out the dunes for fun. Michigan City has the longest beach and
boat Casino to try your luck. And don't forget Indiana beach and the
4th
of July fireworks. Darla must know that we love the water so we have
something in common. And our TV weatherman Mr. John Fisher has a 5
degree weather forecast accuracy, if he is ever wrong you can win the
pot of money as it grows because he is right most of the time.

Humankind
will never flock to Indiana, it has no shore line.

nightbat

What Indiana do you know Bert, sure it does, ever hear of
Lake
Michigan?

In reality
man would rather be hi by a tidal wave (that's dynamic) than live
in a
rainy,snowy,boring place the indians called Indiana.

nightbat

Ha, ha, ha, that's not what you were saying when the tri
hurricanes went through and left you with no roof, or pot to **** in.

You can't grow
Mexican sweet potatoes in Indiana.

nightbat

Sure you can, so many Mexican folks come up each summer to
harvest they love it, and some stay for good. They bring their
Mexican
sweet potatoes and lots of other neat stuff so they don't miss a
thing.

Darla who has been everywhere never
heard of Indiana.

nightbat

Ha, ha, ha, sure she does, for it's the wide open beautiful
fields of Indiana that would make a perfect landing site for the
largest
mother ship with no problem. Darla knows that and wouldn't trust
landing
in Florida with it's sink holes and all.

What is the population of Indiana? Compare it
with Fl.

nightbat

Both in the millions, but Florida's is seasonal, the
hurricanes
make evacuation sure of that.

What is its state flower? How far is it from the Atlantic to
the Pacific?

nightbat

Indiana State flower is the Peony as adopted in 1957 by the
State Assembly. It's about 800-900 miles to the Atlantic and about
2100-2200 miles to the Pacific. Nice inland buffering against
hurricanes
or tsunami's.

Why would anyone go to Indiana? Why live there? Is
watching corn grow the big outdoor activity?

nightbat

The best clear night skies with no very large city glare for
star viewing all year. So peaceful and friendly with lots of
attractions
for fun. Great lake, Tippi river, or stream fishing, wild game
hunting
especially deer, the fields are full of everything. Big houses, low
taxes, abundant natural gas for heating and industry. The most famous
tasting and elixir mushrooms sought the world over, with real
friendly
Indians, they still make the best natural buckskin clothes for you, I
have mine. Boating, theme parks, State parks, Amish farms for natural
pure made food, Industry and car plants for lots of good paying jobs,
like the Hummer Arnold made famous. The cutest and healthiest milk
and
corn feed girls, they have back. The best schools, like Notre Dame,
Purdue, and the freshest air for miles, and best tasting spring
water.
So much when you come here to greet Darla and Star crew at the Air
Force
base you may never leave. When the world runs out of oil Indiana will
be
there with plenty of corn based gasohol.

Do any
millionaires have one of their homes there(I think not)

nightbat

Sure, ha, ha, ha, lots Bert, it's the low taxes that brings
them. Like ever hear of Oprah, late great famous actor James Dean,
David
Letterman and family, Tom Petty, Larry Bird, Michael Jackson and
family,
and Indiana speedway greats like Jeff Gordon. And Wilbur Wright the
inventor's home, remember the plane boss the plane.

Name me one
pretty movie star hat came from Indiana,and nightbat don't cheat
and say
Britney Spears.


nightbat

I told you Oprah, and also Carol Lombard, Shelley Long, Janet
Jackson, Anne Baxter, and so many other starlets to many to mention.
Hoosier gals are golden and so sweet, you can't get enough of them.

I don't like Fl. but things could be worse I could have
ended up in Indiana. Bert PS Wish I was sailing along Huntington
Beach lying in the back stern lounge with two surfer girls helping
me
drink my bud lite. those were the days

nightbat

Ha, ha, ha, you don't know what you're missing. And then what
about Darla star ship maidens prancing around nude, one in each arm
showing you the inter galactic sights, and asking can I fill that
glass
up for you Mr. Bert some more?


the nightbat


Don't forget your Indianapolis Colts. I'm watching them right now
playing in a snow storm against the Patriots in the AFC playoffs.
Go Colts!

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