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Ages ago I once read a Dr. Who novel (UK) where people felt more happy
and less moody after a thunder storm on this planet, because of
negative ions released into the air from all the lightning. Is there
any real evidence for this in tropical lightning storms on earth?

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Rob wrote:
Ages ago I once read a Dr. Who novel (UK) where people felt more happy
and less moody after a thunder storm on this planet, because of
negative ions released into the air from all the lightning. Is there
any real evidence for this in tropical lightning storms on earth?

TIA,
R


I always thought people felt good after a thunderstorm
because it cooled off and wasn't so muggy

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Rob wrote:

Ages ago I once read a Dr. Who novel (UK) where people felt more happy
and less moody after a thunder storm on this planet, because of
negative ions released into the air from all the lightning. Is there
any real evidence for this in tropical lightning storms on earth?

TIA,
R


Long ago (1982) as an undergrad , I wrote a paper for a
technical writing class on this.

I found a fair amount of research on ionic environments
and the biological effects - much of it from the 1950s.

There were some interesting aspects. Negative atmospheric
ion concentration induced more rapid cilia motion in rabbits.
This was extrapolated to being a benefit to asthmatics.
There was at least some evidence that negative charge
promoted healing in burn victims.

And as for moods, there were clinical studies indicating
changes in serotonin levels when differing ion loads were
present. Serotonin is of course one of the neurotransmitters
modified by many anti-depressants, so a mood aspect is not
out of the question, though there are of course many other factors.

Anecdotally, one of the main contributors to positive ion load
is airborne soil (radioactive ionization?)such as dust storms and
sand storms. It turns out a recurring wind event in Israel
( named the Sharev or some such ) causes regular dust storms
and the presence of this wind has been used more than once
as a legal defense for violent offenders.


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Ages ago I once read a Dr. Who novel (UK) where people felt more happy
and less moody after a thunder storm on this planet, because of
negative ions released into the air from all the lightning. Is there
any real evidence for this in tropical lightning storms on earth?


Sadly this series started out with the intention of the author (Terry
Nation) to instruct children with scientific knowledge. Sadly it was
over run by monkies in the BBC who wanted to put out sjid about bug-eyed
monsters.

Why they wanted to do that beggars understanding, since the organisation
is supposed to be a public service and is funded by a poll tax not
market forces.

Rob wrote:

Long ago (1982) as an undergrad , I wrote a paper for a
technical writing class on this.

I found a fair amount of research on ionic environments
and the biological effects - much of it from the 1950s.


There were some interesting aspects. Negative atmospheric
ion concentration induced more rapid cilia motion in rabbits.
This was extrapolated to being a benefit to asthmatics.
There was at least some evidence that negative charge
promoted healing in burn victims.


And as for moods, there were clinical studies indicating
changes in serotonin levels when differing ion loads were
present. Serotonin is of course one of the neurotransmitters
modified by many anti-depressants, so a mood aspect is not
out of the question, though there are of course many other factors.


Anecdotally, one of the main contributors to positive ion load
is airborne soil (radioactive ionization?)such as dust storms and
sand storms. It turns out a recurring wind event in Israel
( named the Sharev or some such ) causes regular dust storms
and the presence of this wind has been used more than once
as a legal defense for violent offenders.


Some recent research has indicated that electronic imbalances with
static in the air is soon dissipated. Which leaves sonics as the likely
influence. (Perhaps the major instigator.)

There is an harmonic resonance with the frequency of ultra low sound
waves and brainwaves. People predisposed to sicknesses such as arthritis
and rheumatism, certainly feel worse when the weather is thundery. It is
most accute when the front is at its height.

Interestingly the tidal rhythm with which they are harmonising is not
necessarily that of their location. (I happened to be looking that up in
the Encyclopaedia Britannica yesterday. (The anecdotal stuff is my own
reasoning on the subject.))


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There is an harmonic resonance with the frequency of ultra low sound
waves and brainwaves. People predisposed to sicknesses such as arthritis
and rheumatism, certainly feel worse when the weather is thundery. It is
most accute when the front is at its height.


Interestingly the tidal rhythm with which they are harmonising is not
necessarily that of their location. (I happened to be looking that up in
the Encyclopaedia Britannica yesterday. (The anecdotal stuff is my own
reasoning on the subject.))


That wasn't very clear.

I was looking up stuff about tides when I came across the article on the
cycles in lifeforms. (1998 edition Vol 14 Pages 760 on.)

The suppositions about arthritis were not mentioned nor were the
relation of brainwaves to ultrasound, it just struck me as a
coincidence. The frequency I am on about is 10 cycles a second for the
human brain and 10 KHz for seismicity.


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