Such headlines and statistics are repeated all over the world. The
atmosphere is definately warming up, but how much mankind is contributing to
the increase is debatable. The world has been through hot periods and ice
ages many times over millions of years.

Geoff.

In article ,
"Geoff Blackmore" wrote:
Such headlines and statistics are repeated all over the world. The
atmosphere is definately warming up, but how much mankind is contributing
to
the increase is debatable.

You're 5-8 years behind the times. It's been debated and settled.


The world has been through hot periods and ice
ages many times over millions of years.

Geoff.


Yes, but (1) none so rapid, (2) none during our current level of population
and civilization, and (3) none caused by our activities.

On Wed, 16 Feb 05 11:26:43 GMT, (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:

In article ,
"Geoff Blackmore" wrote:
Such headlines and statistics are repeated all over the world. The
atmosphere is definately warming up, but how much mankind is contributing to
the increase is debatable.

You're 5-8 years behind the times. It's been debated and settled.

Untrue. Still in debate - maybe the debate will never end.

The world has been through hot periods and ice
ages many times over millions of years.

Geoff.

Yes, but (1) none so rapid,

Unknown. Paleo records are debated about how fast last glacial
periods ended - some evidence points to decades. Current 'warming
trend' seems to start around 1750 and accelerate during the early 20th
century.

(2) none during our current level of population and civilization,

Meaningless. Population 1900 about 1.5billion, 2000 about 6 billion.
If you include human record over period of civilizations, there have
been swings up and down.

There is a debate on the table over whether the current temps are
hottest or whether the Medievil Warming spiked the highest. If it
matched or exceeded current temps what were the factors.

and (3) none caused by our activities.

Welll duhh.


And just to keep it on track, in no way do those debates take the
current issue of CO2 pollution affecting global climate off the table.

In article ,
owl wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 05 11:26:43 GMT, (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:

In article ,
"Geoff Blackmore" wrote:
Such headlines and statistics are repeated all over the world. The
atmosphere is definately warming up, but how much mankind is
contributing to
the increase is debatable.

You're 5-8 years behind the times. It's been debated and settled.

Untrue. Still in debate - maybe the debate will never end.

Read IPCC or the National Academy of Sciences.

Of course, some think the debate over evolution will never end either.


The world has been through hot periods and ice
ages many times over millions of years.

Geoff.

Yes, but (1) none so rapid,

Unknown. Paleo records are debated about how fast last glacial
periods ended - some evidence points to decades. Current 'warming
trend' seems to start around 1750 and accelerate during the early 20th
century.

(2) none during our current level of population and civilization,

Meaningless. Population 1900 about 1.5billion, 2000 about 6 billion.
If you include human record over period of civilizations, there have
been swings up and down.

Uh, there has never been a population lower than the current one.


There is a debate on the table over whether the current temps are
hottest or whether the Medievil Warming spiked the highest. If it
matched or exceeded current temps what were the factors.

Irrelevant. We know what the factor is this time.


and (3) none caused by our activities.

Welll duhh.


And just to keep it on track, in no way do those debates take the
current issue of CO2 pollution affecting global climate off the table.

nonsense.


Roger Coppock wrote:

These globally averaged temperature data come from NASA:
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/GLB.Ts.txt
They represent the results of tens of millions of readings
taken at thousands of stations covering all the lands of the
Earth over the last 125 years. Yes, the data are corrected
for the urban heat island effect. Unlike other weather and
climate data currently coming from the United States, no
government censors added 'spin' to this report.

The Mean January temperature over the last 126 years is 13.997 C.
The Variance is 0.13566.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3683.

Rxy 0.654638 Rxy^2 0.428551
TEMP = 13.575548 + (0.006629 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 124 F = 92.992086
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.9999999999999999 (16 nines)
The month of January in the year 2005,
is linearly projected to be 14.411,
yet it was 14.85. -- 1.2 SIGMA above the linear
projection!
The sum of the residuals is 25.788452

Exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.575858 * e^(.0004751 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the residuals is 25.716902 (Those who have followed this
item both closely and with an open mind will note that an important
trend continues here. The rest needn't waste bandwidth with their
trolling)

Rank of the months of January
Year Temp C Anomaly Z score
2005 14.85 0.853 2.32 --
2002 14.81 0.813 2.21
2003 14.80 0.803 2.18
1882 14.79 0.793 2.15
1998 14.64 0.643 1.75
1988 14.61 0.613 1.67
2004 14.58 0.583 1.58
1981 14.57 0.573 1.56
2001 14.57 0.573 1.56
1999 14.55 0.553 1.50
1932 14.52 0.523 1.42
1990 14.46 0.463 1.26
1992 14.45 0.453 1.23
MEAN 13.997 0.000 0.00
1900 13.54 -0.457 -1.24
1917 13.52 -0.477 -1.29
1892 13.49 -0.507 -1.38
1895 13.48 -0.517 -1.40
1911 13.48 -0.517 -1.40
1881 13.47 -0.527 -1.43
1918 13.47 -0.527 -1.43
1887 13.46 -0.537 -1.46
1904 13.45 -0.547 -1.48
1885 13.43 -0.567 -1.54
1894 13.38 -0.617 -1.67
1909 13.30 -0.697 -1.89
1891 13.22 -0.777 -2.11
1893 12.47 -1.527 -4.14

The most recent 146 continuous months, or 12 years and 2 months,
on this GLB.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1501 months of data on this data set:
-- 716 of them are at or above the norm.
-- 785 of them are below the norm.
This run of 146 months above the norm is the result of a warming world.
It is too large to occur by chance at any reasonable level of
confidence. A major volcano eruption, thermonuclear war, or meteor
impact could stop this warming trend for a couple of years, otherwise
expect it to continue.

Mack Stout wrote:

Might we ask for a bit more detail?

josh halpern

nonsense.


Roger Coppock wrote:


These globally averaged temperature data come from NASA:
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/GLB.Ts.txt
They represent the results of tens of millions of readings
taken at thousands of stations covering all the lands of the
Earth over the last 125 years. Yes, the data are corrected
for the urban heat island effect. Unlike other weather and
climate data currently coming from the United States, no
government censors added 'spin' to this report.

The Mean January temperature over the last 126 years is 13.997 C.
The Variance is 0.13566.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3683.

Rxy 0.654638 Rxy^2 0.428551
TEMP = 13.575548 + (0.006629 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 124 F = 92.992086
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.9999999999999999 (16 nines)
The month of January in the year 2005,
is linearly projected to be 14.411,
yet it was 14.85. -- 1.2 SIGMA above the linear
projection!
The sum of the residuals is 25.788452

Exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.575858 * e^(.0004751 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the residuals is 25.716902 (Those who have followed this
item both closely and with an open mind will note that an important
trend continues here. The rest needn't waste bandwidth with their
trolling)

Rank of the months of January
Year Temp C Anomaly Z score
2005 14.85 0.853 2.32 --
2002 14.81 0.813 2.21
2003 14.80 0.803 2.18
1882 14.79 0.793 2.15
1998 14.64 0.643 1.75
1988 14.61 0.613 1.67
2004 14.58 0.583 1.58
1981 14.57 0.573 1.56
2001 14.57 0.573 1.56
1999 14.55 0.553 1.50
1932 14.52 0.523 1.42
1990 14.46 0.463 1.26
1992 14.45 0.453 1.23
MEAN 13.997 0.000 0.00
1900 13.54 -0.457 -1.24
1917 13.52 -0.477 -1.29
1892 13.49 -0.507 -1.38
1895 13.48 -0.517 -1.40
1911 13.48 -0.517 -1.40
1881 13.47 -0.527 -1.43
1918 13.47 -0.527 -1.43
1887 13.46 -0.537 -1.46
1904 13.45 -0.547 -1.48
1885 13.43 -0.567 -1.54
1894 13.38 -0.617 -1.67
1909 13.30 -0.697 -1.89
1891 13.22 -0.777 -2.11
1893 12.47 -1.527 -4.14

The most recent 146 continuous months, or 12 years and 2 months,
on this GLB.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1501 months of data on this data set:
-- 716 of them are at or above the norm.
-- 785 of them are below the norm.
This run of 146 months above the norm is the result of a warming world.
It is too large to occur by chance at any reasonable level of
confidence. A major volcano eruption, thermonuclear war, or meteor
impact could stop this warming trend for a couple of years, otherwise
expect it to continue.

"Global Warming" is _sooo_ 20th century. Tres passé.

Even the wackiest of the wacked-out warming wackos are bored with themselves.

Well, have we got a new cult for YOU!

Hubbert's Peak is THE Wacko cult for the 21st Century!

And just like warmism, Hubbert's Peak is TRUE! ALL the scientists agree!!!

And just as with warmism, we MUST, we simply MUST, RADICALLY alter our
foolish and wasteful (non-sustainable) capitalist way of life, BEFORE IT'S
TOO LATE!!!

The oilmen in the white house have a vested interest in suppressing the
TRUTH, and keeping the world addicted to oil, even though there is an
impending world oil CRISIS (a REAL crisis, not a manufactured social security
"crisis").

http://www.socialistreview.org.uk/ar...clenumber=8930

Hubbert's Peak, Hubbert's Peak, Hubbert's Peak, Hubbert's Peak, Hubbert's
Peak, Hubbert's Peak!!!!!!!

http://www.worldsocialism.org

which part do you not not understand?

Joshua Halpern wrote:

Mack Stout wrote:

Might we ask for a bit more detail?

josh halpern

nonsense.


Roger Coppock wrote:


These globally averaged temperature data come from NASA:
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/GLB.Ts.txt
They represent the results of tens of millions of readings
taken at thousands of stations covering all the lands of the
Earth over the last 125 years. Yes, the data are corrected
for the urban heat island effect. Unlike other weather and
climate data currently coming from the United States, no
government censors added 'spin' to this report.

The Mean January temperature over the last 126 years is 13.997 C.
The Variance is 0.13566.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3683.

Rxy 0.654638 Rxy^2 0.428551
TEMP = 13.575548 + (0.006629 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 124 F = 92.992086
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.9999999999999999 (16 nines)
The month of January in the year 2005,
is linearly projected to be 14.411,
yet it was 14.85. -- 1.2 SIGMA above the linear
projection!
The sum of the residuals is 25.788452

Exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.575858 * e^(.0004751 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the residuals is 25.716902 (Those who have followed this
item both closely and with an open mind will note that an important
trend continues here. The rest needn't waste bandwidth with their
trolling)

Rank of the months of January
Year Temp C Anomaly Z score
2005 14.85 0.853 2.32 --
2002 14.81 0.813 2.21
2003 14.80 0.803 2.18
1882 14.79 0.793 2.15
1998 14.64 0.643 1.75
1988 14.61 0.613 1.67
2004 14.58 0.583 1.58
1981 14.57 0.573 1.56
2001 14.57 0.573 1.56
1999 14.55 0.553 1.50
1932 14.52 0.523 1.42
1990 14.46 0.463 1.26
1992 14.45 0.453 1.23
MEAN 13.997 0.000 0.00
1900 13.54 -0.457 -1.24
1917 13.52 -0.477 -1.29
1892 13.49 -0.507 -1.38
1895 13.48 -0.517 -1.40
1911 13.48 -0.517 -1.40
1881 13.47 -0.527 -1.43
1918 13.47 -0.527 -1.43
1887 13.46 -0.537 -1.46
1904 13.45 -0.547 -1.48
1885 13.43 -0.567 -1.54
1894 13.38 -0.617 -1.67
1909 13.30 -0.697 -1.89
1891 13.22 -0.777 -2.11
1893 12.47 -1.527 -4.14

The most recent 146 continuous months, or 12 years and 2 months,
on this GLB.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1501 months of data on this data set:
-- 716 of them are at or above the norm.
-- 785 of them are below the norm.
This run of 146 months above the norm is the result of a warming world.
It is too large to occur by chance at any reasonable level of
confidence. A major volcano eruption, thermonuclear war, or meteor
impact could stop this warming trend for a couple of years, otherwise
expect it to continue.

Mack Stout wrote:

Why you are driveling in public perhaps? Either criticize the
information posted by R. Coppock in some detail or slink off. Your
personal opinions are perhaps of interest to your mom and dad, but
without some justifications they are not worth anything.

which part do you not not understand?

Joshua Halpern wrote:


Mack Stout wrote:

Might we ask for a bit more detail?

josh halpern


nonsense.


Roger Coppock wrote:



These globally averaged temperature data come from NASA:
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/GLB.Ts.txt
They represent the results of tens of millions of readings
taken at thousands of stations covering all the lands of the
Earth over the last 125 years. Yes, the data are corrected
for the urban heat island effect. Unlike other weather and
climate data currently coming from the United States, no
government censors added 'spin' to this report.

The Mean January temperature over the last 126 years is 13.997 C.
The Variance is 0.13566.
The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.3683.

Rxy 0.654638 Rxy^2 0.428551
TEMP = 13.575548 + (0.006629 * (YEAR-1879))
Degrees of Freedom = 124 F = 92.992086
Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately
0.9999999999999999 (16 nines)
The month of January in the year 2005,
is linearly projected to be 14.411,
yet it was 14.85. -- 1.2 SIGMA above the linear
projection!
The sum of the residuals is 25.788452

Exponential least squares fit:
TEMP = 13.575858 * e^(.0004751 * (YEAR-1879))
The sum of the residuals is 25.716902 (Those who have followed this
item both closely and with an open mind will note that an important
trend continues here. The rest needn't waste bandwidth with their
trolling)

Rank of the months of January
Year Temp C Anomaly Z score
2005 14.85 0.853 2.32 --
2002 14.81 0.813 2.21
2003 14.80 0.803 2.18
1882 14.79 0.793 2.15
1998 14.64 0.643 1.75
1988 14.61 0.613 1.67
2004 14.58 0.583 1.58
1981 14.57 0.573 1.56
2001 14.57 0.573 1.56
1999 14.55 0.553 1.50
1932 14.52 0.523 1.42
1990 14.46 0.463 1.26
1992 14.45 0.453 1.23
MEAN 13.997 0.000 0.00
1900 13.54 -0.457 -1.24
1917 13.52 -0.477 -1.29
1892 13.49 -0.507 -1.38
1895 13.48 -0.517 -1.40
1911 13.48 -0.517 -1.40
1881 13.47 -0.527 -1.43
1918 13.47 -0.527 -1.43
1887 13.46 -0.537 -1.46
1904 13.45 -0.547 -1.48
1885 13.43 -0.567 -1.54
1894 13.38 -0.617 -1.67
1909 13.30 -0.697 -1.89
1891 13.22 -0.777 -2.11
1893 12.47 -1.527 -4.14

The most recent 146 continuous months, or 12 years and 2 months,
on this GLB.Ts.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980
data set norm of 14 C.
There are 1501 months of data on this data set:
-- 716 of them are at or above the norm.
-- 785 of them are below the norm.
This run of 146 months above the norm is the result of a warming world.
It is too large to occur by chance at any reasonable level of
confidence. A major volcano eruption, thermonuclear war, or meteor
impact could stop this warming trend for a couple of years, otherwise
expect it to continue.

"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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My competence can quickly be verified

. . . . by reading the drivel you post here . . . .