Thanks for the spotlight. If you can see my posts, they range from totally
coherent, scientific and thoughful (see above), to the ludicrous/sarcastic
(bordering Mr. Moriarty fame). The type of post you receive is based on the
sensefulness and relevance of the original post. Do I think you toot your
own employer's horn to much? You bet! And why? Just once I want to hear 5
reasons why someone would WANT to work there, because from numerous 1st
person dealings, there is a strong desire to leave despite being held
captive by Bubba the jail master. Companies that treat their employees well
(through pay, work environment, duty hours, etc...) don't have contracts
because they don't have turnover (especially in such an awesome city as
SCE). End of discussion.


wrote in message
ups.com...
EdM wrote:
wrote in news:1112107667.081738.294380
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Fortunately, I recieved better and more intelligent advice
elsewhere...
that figures, of course:



It is indeed fortunate that you received legitimate responses to such
a
belligerent and ill conceived post. No one is arguing that freezing
fog
was likely the result of a proper manual augmentation. But your
cries
will fall upon deaf ears unless you refine your approach.

The fact that several people gave you that advice and your response
was to
imply that they are wrong because they are posting here tells me that
you
just don't get it. I've always written your loose-cannon approach
off to
youthful exhuberence, but if you don't get over it soon, it will turn
into
something that will create life-long difficulties for you.

This is the last time (I think) that I will risk a flaming by
counseling
you against self-inflicting wounds. Its your life, but an open mind
will
save you from a lot of future grief.

My point was not simply regarding posts like this one, but to the state
of this place in general... for example, here is the list of the most
recent topics as listed on Google Groups:

Lazy FAA Observer at Trenton-Mercer Airport
Bartlo thinks Jackson is sexy [ Pest posts, March 12-26
Is it time for ****seph Blerto's psest lits, yet?
NOMINATION - Vito Kuhn for 72 Raisins "Crackpot Religion" Award
(Fwd) Norm Nowrecki - Kookology - And The Sands Of Time
Another one of my predictions
FOAM WARNING
Barlo Blows Billygoats
6th Annual NE.Wx Snowfall Forecast Contest #8 - The Forecasts
digest, volume 2453447
Killington, VT
Change of Seasons
Major East coast event tomm
BARTLO M E L T D O W N UPDATE
Weekend Reading
Life support
Forecast Contest?
Pictures from State College, from yesterday and this morning
Petrus -your PC date is one day ahead
it WAS all about oil!
The BIG Winners... For once, NOT a New England storm...
AccuWeather Channel
the furure= future
JB Wins Over DT? NO!!!
Coastal next week?
Where is Bartlo?
A ? for Mike Moriarty: Ann Arbor's Snowiest?
Amarillo
; Calling out Dr Harvie....
Dignity

I mean, for Pete's sake, half the topics are ridiculous...

Then, we come to what has been increasingly annoying about this
place... attacks.

For example:
I posted the AccuWeather Channel news release. No, not to make Joel
happy or whatever you sick pathetic losers here think, but because I
thought SOME of you might just be a little interested. Instead,
MeatyUrologist makes one of the most insulting responses I have ever
read, for NO reason except perhaps the fact that he is actually a NWS
employee who hates us as much as SOME (not all) at AccuWeather hate
him.

Another one... I make a post bemoaning the lack of snow State College
is receiving compared to normal and compared to my home town, and
MeatyUrologist pops in again with "How much icing would it take to
collapse the fortress on Science Park road? Worker's Comp!!!"...

I could even mention the "blizzard condition" debates... TQ was the
star in those, of course...

The fact of the matter is that this is a deplorable place to discuss
anything. Only reason I still post here at all is to annoy the hell
out of those who would rather see me leave....there are certainly
better places to discuss the weather on the 'net.

=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/

In any case, it appears many of your colleagues in the NWS have seen my
posting here as an attack on the NWS... which it certainly is NOT.

=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/

wrote:
EdM wrote:
wrote in news:1112107667.081738.294380
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Fortunately, I recieved better and more intelligent advice
elsewhere...
that figures, of course:



It is indeed fortunate that you received legitimate responses to
such a
belligerent and ill conceived post. No one is arguing that
freezing fog
was likely the result of a proper manual augmentation. But your
cries
will fall upon deaf ears unless you refine your approach.

The fact that several people gave you that advice and your response
was to
imply that they are wrong because they are posting here tells me
that you
just don't get it. I've always written your loose-cannon approach
off to
youthful exhuberence, but if you don't get over it soon, it will
turn into
something that will create life-long difficulties for you.

This is the last time (I think) that I will risk a flaming by
counseling
you against self-inflicting wounds. Its your life, but an open
mind will
save you from a lot of future grief.


****************
Clearly, I have changed my mind yet again...good thing I left the
little hedge in there.
****************


My point was not simply regarding posts like this one, but to the
state
of this place in general... for example, here is the list of the most
recent topics as listed on Google Groups:

Lazy FAA Observer at Trenton-Mercer Airport
Bartlo thinks Jackson is sexy [ Pest posts, March 12-26
etc ...
I mean, for Pete's sake, half the topics are ridiculous...

Then, we come to what has been increasingly annoying about this
place... attacks.

For example:
I posted the AccuWeather Channel news release. No, not to make Joel
happy or whatever you sick pathetic losers here think,


****************
Who is a sick pathetic loser? This is not a good foundation for a
persuasive argument.

****************


but because I
thought SOME of you might just be a little interested. Instead,
MeatyUrologist makes one of the most insulting responses I have ever
read, for NO reason except perhaps the fact that he is actually a NWS
employee who hates us as much as SOME (not all) at AccuWeather hate
him.


****************
I don't know who he is or who he knows at accuweather, so I guess I'll
just have to take your word for that.

****************


Another one... I make a post bemoaning the lack of snow State
College
is receiving compared to normal and compared to my home town, and
MeatyUrologist pops in again with "How much icing would it take to
collapse the fortress on Science Park road? Worker's Comp!!!"...



****************
Actually, that was pretty funny. I recently saw George Hamilton (older
actor, hair always in place, rediculously dark tan, etc...) making fun
of himself and his tanning/grooming habits, etc. He has been the
target of ridicule for those traits in the past, but comes off as maybe
just being a decent guy anyway because he is willing to have a little
fun instead of getting defensive and ****ed off. This might be a good
model for you to consider. The fortress on Science Park road sounds
like an inside joke, which strikes me as more of an attempt to
bond...or at least heal wounds, than as an attempt to harm you. You
need to work on your sense of humor.
****************



I could even mention the "blizzard condition" debates... TQ was the
star in those, of course...


****************
I felt that he was playing the supporting role of straight man ;-)
****************


The fact of the matter is that this is a deplorable place to discuss
anything.


****************

It still works for me.

****************


Only reason I still post here at all is to annoy the hell
out of those who would rather see me leave....there are certainly
better places to discuss the weather on the 'net.



****************

You are doing a better job of annoying those who would rather see you
stay.

****************



=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.-
http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/

wrote in message
ups.com...
[boorish termper tantrum snipped]

I could even mention the "blizzard condition" debates... TQ was the
star in those, of course...

Ray, you ignorant slut. A debate is where fact-based arguments are
presented in defense of opposing opinions.

Your opinion about what constitutes blizzard conditions had no basis in fact
b/c you relied on notoriously unreliable sources -- WFO web pages -- to
support your position. When presented with hard, verifiable facts from
unrefutable sources, your arrogance and hubris prevented you from admitting
your error. Instead, you continued to defend your position by invoking
blizzard 'warning' criterion for vsby (=1/4 SM), which is different than
the observed vsby criterion ( 1/4SM).

Tsk-tsk-tsk. As a 'professional meteorologist,' you should know the
definitions and the difference between the two if you expect to have any
credibility when discussing this phenomenon. If you don/t know the
difference and want to maintain any semblence of integrity, then you should
admit as much, thank those who showed you the error of your ways, and stop
having hissy-fits in public.

Love,
TQ

PS - Your reaction to this FAA bu**** is none too surprising when you
consider the how 'Ray Martin' easily transforms into 'AIR MY RANT!'

Gentlemen,

I apologize for my previous statements regarding deception.

However, I still maintain that, at least at the time I specified, the
ASOS at KTTN was not accurately portraying the weather at the airport,
based on nearby observations, evidence from the issued observation from
KTTN, radar imagery, and information from several family members who
live within 2 miles of the airport.

I think that perhaps, a change in reporting practice from the ASOS
would be helpful for the user and observer. For example, when the ASOS
is standalone (AUTO), the following distress codes are issued at the
end of the observation during an instance such as what occured on March
8:

SNEMM PWINO FZRANO

However, when the ASOS is in augmentation mode, the PWINO FZRANO are
not included, with only the SNEMM indicating a problem with the
sensors. This is also the case with other sensor distress codes, such
as TSNO.

I believe it would be in everyone's interests if this was changed so
that, even while the ASOS is being augmented, the sensor error codes
were displayed. This would alert the augmentor that there are problems
with the unit severely affecting performance requiring augmentation,
while alerting the end-user to be more skeptical of the observation.

=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/

wrote in
oups.com:

I'm sorry, but you are just plain lying. Are you
really going to tell me that this radar was completely
wrong and no precipitation was falling at the time????
http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/da...0Z-08Mar05.gif
This is a constant problem from KTTN, observations
which are NEVER corrected. You guys do absolutely no
work, in regards to augmentation. I'm gonna be honest
with you, I'm actually a meteorologist from the area
and pay close attention to the KTTN observations all
the time, especialy during snow, and they are NEVER
augmented at all. I've seen so many times when the
precip sensor failed and all that was reported was
freezing fog, when it was clearly snowing moderatley
to heavily.

You make me sick, sir.

=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.-
http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/

Yeah, this'll get results. How childish.

Sandy A. Nicolaysen wrote:
Raymond: Arguing with James is like running in the Special Olympics.
Even if you win, you're still a retard. Let it go.

- Sandy in Princeton

You may be right, but I still had to try...

=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/

MeatyUrologist wrote:
Way to stand behind that Accu Weather name Raymond!! Sure the boss
appreciates your dialogue, which actually could have made great
strides had
you passed English 15 at Penn State. Unfortunately, Mr. Holier Than
Thou
(that's you) comes off with a complete lack of tact, decency, and
respect
plus an attitude that befits a foul tempered 14 year old. You
honestly got
sick over an unaugmented weather observation? I'm beginning to think
you're
achieving kook status! You think you made TTN look bad? Think again.
That
dialogue is a total embarassment to none other than yourself. I'm
surpried
Mr. Pate gave you the curteous reply that he did! Quite frankly, you
deserve
to have sausages shoved down your throat and starving dogs up your
butt.

You are very disgusting and perverted. And why would you be surprised
at Pate's courteous reply? Up until then (which was, again, clearly a
BS'ing reply), I was also courteous.

=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/

Gary M wrote:
MeatyUrologist wrote:
It's unfortunate because you attempted to call attention to a long
standing
problem since the FAA took over observations, but the manner in
which you
have done so certainly won't win you any friends on either side of
the
playing field. Maybe you ought to stick to desk work which doesn't
involve
any communication with other human beings, or at least take a few
classes in
communications because you really are hurting yourself. Office
Space anyone?

Not to mention that it's **** poor to post a personal email exchange,

and even worse to leave the guy's phone number in there. I doubt
there
are any good intentions on Raymond's part. He comes off as a
obsessive kook.

No, I come off as a taxpayer who's peeved at the lack of quality I'm
getting for my mone.

=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/

EdM wrote:
wrote:
Another one... I make a post bemoaning the lack of snow State
College
is receiving compared to normal and compared to my home town, and
MeatyUrologist pops in again with "How much icing would it take to
collapse the fortress on Science Park road? Worker's Comp!!!"...



****************
Actually, that was pretty funny. I recently saw George Hamilton
(older
actor, hair always in place, rediculously dark tan, etc...) making
fun
of himself and his tanning/grooming habits, etc. He has been the
target of ridicule for those traits in the past, but comes off as
maybe
just being a decent guy anyway because he is willing to have a little
fun instead of getting defensive and ****ed off. This might be a
good
model for you to consider. The fortress on Science Park road sounds
like an inside joke, which strikes me as more of an attempt to
bond...or at least heal wounds, than as an attempt to harm you. You
need to work on your sense of humor.
****************

I bet if I made a joke like that about the NWS, I wouldn't generate
anywhere near the kind of amusement from others as you suggest was
generated by MeatyUrologist's comment.

=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/