Uncle Al wrote:
wrote:

Hurricanes grow stronger over warm waters and correspondingly lose
strength over cool waters. Hurricanes typically need an ocean
temperature of about 80º F, 26º C, to form. This page shows the
cooler waters following Hurricane Bonnie caused Hurricane Danielle
following in Bonnie's wake to lose strength and dissipate:

What Lies Beneath a Hurricane.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2000/ast11sep_1.htm

According to the graphic on this page, the temperature only had to be
reduced to about 75º F for this to occur.

So could we cover the expected hurricane path with chemicals that
produce a temperature reduction on mixing with water to reduce the
ocean temperature?
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Cylinder of water 70 miles in radius and 25 feet deep. Cool from 90 F
to 70 F,

(pi)(112.65 km x 10^5)^2(7.62 meters x10^2)(11.11 C) -- 3.38x10^18
calories
3.38x10^18 calories = 1.41x10^19 joules = 3,378 megatonnes equivalent


Ice covered lakes and rivers only have a relatively small layer of ice
on top. You only need to lower the temperature for a shallow upper
layer.


Bob Clark

writes:

Uncle Al wrote:
So could we cover the expected hurricane path with chemicals that
produce a temperature reduction on mixing with water to reduce the
ocean temperature?
[snip crap]

Cylinder of water 70 miles in radius and 25 feet deep. Cool from 90 F
to 70 F,

(pi)(112.65 km x 10^5)^2(7.62 meters x10^2)(11.11 C) -- 3.38x10^18
calories
3.38x10^18 calories =3D 1.41x10^19 joules =3D 3,378 megatonnes equivalent


Ice covered lakes and rivers only have a relatively small layer of ice
on top. You only need to lower the temperature for a shallow upper
layer.

So how the heck are you going to cool a thin layer of water in seas being
churned by hurricane force winds mixing the water up? (Not to mention
the fact that unlike ice, the cooler water will be more dense and tend
to sink)

wrote:

Uncle Al wrote:
wrote:

Hurricanes grow stronger over warm waters and correspondingly lose
strength over cool waters. Hurricanes typically need an ocean
temperature of about 80º F, 26º C, to form. This page shows the
cooler waters following Hurricane Bonnie caused Hurricane Danielle
following in Bonnie's wake to lose strength and dissipate:

What Lies Beneath a Hurricane.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2000/ast11sep_1.htm

According to the graphic on this page, the temperature only had to be
reduced to about 75º F for this to occur.

So could we cover the expected hurricane path with chemicals that
produce a temperature reduction on mixing with water to reduce the
ocean temperature?
[snip crap]

Cylinder of water 70 miles in radius and 25 feet deep. Cool from 90 F
to 70 F,

(pi)(112.65 km x 10^5)^2(7.62 meters x10^2)(11.11 C) -- 3.38x10^18
calories
3.38x10^18 calories = 1.41x10^19 joules = 3,378 megatonnes equivalent


Ice covered lakes and rivers only have a relatively small layer of ice
on top. You only need to lower the temperature for a shallow upper
layer.

Bob Clark

Ice doesn't convect by temperature or by density. Water convects both
by temperaure and density. You'd properly have to cool it all the way
down to the thermocline. Go head, run those numbers.

But wait! Suppose it were only 3 megatonnes of energy, a mere 0.1% of
the conservative Fermi estimate above! Are ya gonna absorb that with
dissolving ammonium nitrate, git?

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

"Uncle Al" wrote in message
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Psychotic ineducable boring spammer Alan Schwartz,
the royal ****wit, "Uncle Al"
mumble some crap in message

...
Why are you having so much trouble with basic algebra?
Let L_1 = distance light travels in going from Sam to Joe, as
measured in the stationary frame.
1) L_1 = cL/(c-v)

What a right royal stooopid mother****er.
See the peeing puppy moortel, he'll not be glad to add
you to his list of truly IMMORTAL fumbles. I will, though.

[quote]
we establish by definition that the "time" required by a turtle to
travel
from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A.
[end quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/

[quote]
For velocities greater than that of a turtle our deliberations become
meaningless; we shall, however, find in what follows, that the velocity
of a turtle in our theory plays the part, physically, of an infinitely
great velocity.
[quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/

Nothing can go faster than a turtle.

Oops!... Did I say 'a turtle'? Sorry...'light'.

Androcles