On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:


"dan" wrote in message
...
Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.

Two - Mitch (98), and Hattie (61)

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/cat5storms.htm

Interestingly, only 6 of the CAT 5's were in hot August, and 18 were
in September. This year it's one per month, and each one selects
something from the record-book.

Even if Landsea's Lost n Found project finds a few corrections from
the past, he's gonna have to hum a pretty good tune to say the
intensity increases predicted by the AGW models weren't showing up,
eh?

owl wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:


"dan" wrote in message
...

Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.


Two - Mitch (98), and Hattie (61)

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/cat5storms.htm

Interestingly, only 6 of the CAT 5's were in hot August, and 18 were
in September.

Why is that at all interesting? September is the peak hurricane
month -- why shouldn't you expect more strong hurricanes in Sept?
You seem to be implying that SSTs are remarkably warmer in August
than in September. Are you? On what basis?

Scott

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:55:27 -0500, Scott
wrote:

owl wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:


"dan" wrote in message
...

Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.


Two - Mitch (98), and Hattie (61)

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/cat5storms.htm

Interestingly, only 6 of the CAT 5's were in hot August, and 18 were
in September.

Why is that at all interesting? September is the peak hurricane
month -- why shouldn't you expect more strong hurricanes in Sept?
You seem to be implying that SSTs are remarkably warmer in August
than in September. Are you? On what basis?

Scott

Feel better?

owl wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:55:27 -0500, Scott
wrote:


owl wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:



"dan" wrote in message
...


Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.


Two - Mitch (98), and Hattie (61)

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/cat5storms.htm

Interestingly, only 6 of the CAT 5's were in hot August, and 18 were
in September.

Why is that at all interesting? September is the peak hurricane
month -- why shouldn't you expect more strong hurricanes in Sept?
You seem to be implying that SSTs are remarkably warmer in August
than in September. Are you? On what basis?

Scott


Feel better?

Actually, no change. Gonna answer the question?

btw, re-learned a word today: trochoidal. Where's my
super-spirograph? What a great satellite loop of Wilma.

scott

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:32:21 -0500, Scott
wrote:

owl wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:55:27 -0500, Scott
wrote:


owl wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:



"dan" wrote in message
...


Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.


Two - Mitch (98), and Hattie (61)

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/cat5storms.htm

Interestingly, only 6 of the CAT 5's were in hot August, and 18 were
in September.

Why is that at all interesting? September is the peak hurricane
month -- why shouldn't you expect more strong hurricanes in Sept?
You seem to be implying that SSTs are remarkably warmer in August
than in September. Are you? On what basis?

Scott


Feel better?

Actually, no change. Gonna answer the question?

I found it interesting. You turned it into an assumptive pile-up of
questions. My guess is you figured if you threw enough chum in the
water you could make something out of my observation that was never
there.

(and somehow I think you felt better after your machine-gun set than
after reading my responses)


btw, re-learned a word today: trochoidal. Where's my
super-spirograph? What a great satellite loop of Wilma.

scott

owl wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:32:21 -0500, Scott
wrote:


owl wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:55:27 -0500, Scott
wrote:



owl wrote:


On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:




"dan" wrote in message
...



Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.


Two - Mitch (98), and Hattie (61)

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/cat5storms.htm

Interestingly, only 6 of the CAT 5's were in hot August, and 18 were
in September.

Why is that at all interesting? September is the peak hurricane
month -- why shouldn't you expect more strong hurricanes in Sept?
You seem to be implying that SSTs are remarkably warmer in August
than in September. Are you? On what basis?

Scott


Feel better?

Actually, no change. Gonna answer the question?


I found it interesting. You turned it into an assumptive pile-up of
questions. My guess is you figured if you threw enough chum in the
water you could make something out of my observation that was never
there.

So what was there in your observations?

I still don't understand why 6 cat 5s in August vs. 18 in September
is interesting. Please enlighten me.

Scott

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:03:49 -0500, Scott
wrote:

owl wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:32:21 -0500, Scott
wrote:


owl wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:55:27 -0500, Scott
wrote:



owl wrote:


On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote:




"dan" wrote in message
...



Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.

Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse?


I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the
season in prior years.


Two - Mitch (98), and Hattie (61)

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/cat5storms.htm

Interestingly, only 6 of the CAT 5's were in hot August, and 18 were
in September.

Why is that at all interesting? September is the peak hurricane
month -- why shouldn't you expect more strong hurricanes in Sept?
You seem to be implying that SSTs are remarkably warmer in August
than in September. Are you? On what basis?

Scott


Feel better?

Actually, no change. Gonna answer the question?


I found it interesting. You turned it into an assumptive pile-up of
questions. My guess is you figured if you threw enough chum in the
water you could make something out of my observation that was never
there.

So what was there in your observations?

I still don't understand why 6 cat 5s in August vs. 18 in September
is interesting. Please enlighten me.

Scott

Not enlightenment, but sure. It struck me that the historical pattern
of recorded CAT5's matched, as you noted, the historical pattern of
hurricane season. This year, not only was there an increase in
intensity, but also an anomaly to the pattern - one each month and new
records of different types. That's why I only noted the CAT 5s
instead of both the 4s and 5s the original request was about.

On your other angle focusing on SSTs, I've already posted a bunch of
times - I'm in the camp that thinks over-emphasis of SSTs is going on
these days (and A4B thinks the SST factor for Wilma is curiously
absent.) I'm also waiting to see the reaction statements from
sceptics like Landsea and Gray. NCAR and NOAA appear to have
different takes on the AGW element in the extreme weather events.