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I know throwing money at something isn't always the best thing to do,
but if you in the climate/weather sciences had something on your wish list what would it be? Increase the budget? Or something else? Also, is there something (I) can do to either help get this done or get more involved? I have a degree but it has very little, actually nothing, to do with climate or weather. thanks, |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III wrote:
I know throwing money at something isn't always the best thing to do, but if you in the climate/weather sciences had something on your wish list what would it be? Increase the budget? Fundamental breakthroughs in knowledge. The trouble is we think such breakthroughs are possible, but we can't prove it ahead of time. If we knew the results, it wouldn't be research. If they are possible we might find them with the present level of funding, or we might need more funding. If they are not possible, then no amount of funding will produce them. It is certain that few discoveries will be made if no one tries, and it is difficult to try without funding. The assumption of science is that with enough work we can figure out almost anything, but there are limits. We've been trying to develop nuclear fusion power for 50 years. We know it can be done, but can it be done outside of a star or a bomb in such a way that we can generate power practically? We have not done it yet, despite years of optimistic predictions that the next generation of experiments would show us how. Maybe tomorrow someone will wake up with the answer, or it may take 50 more years, or maybe never. We know more than we would have without spending hundreds of millions of dollars over the years, but frankly in terms of kilowatts generated per dollar of research the return on investment is still negative. Or something else? Geniuses devoted to research. But even geniuses need to eat. Also, is there something (I) can do to either help get this done or get more involved? You're asking questions, which is more than most people do. Write your representatives in Congress and the White House with your concerns. It may not help, but silence is like not spending money on research: no results if you don't try. I have a degree but it has very little, actually nothing, to do with climate or weather. thanks, Cheers, Russell |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III wrote:
I know throwing money at something isn't always the best thing to do, but if you in the climate/weather sciences had something on your wish list what would it be? Get all the nepotistic politically appointed liars who censor public reporting of scientific research that is unpopular with the neocon Evangelical YEC agenda out of NASA & NOAA scientists hair. The US public deserves to know the truth. http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2...-nasa-science/ So far we only have one scalp in Deutsch but more will follow if there is any justice. One down hundreds more to go - unfortunately most of the rest were smart enough not to lie on their CV. Increase the budget? Or something else? Also, is there something (I) can do to either help get this done or get more involved? You could try writing to your congress critter but unless you can bung him more money than the oil men and tobacco industry you are not likely to make a whole lot of difference. I have a degree but it has very little, actually nothing, to do with climate or weather. I am not directly in the climate science field so I have no particular axe to grind on their funding. My business is software for scientific instruments so I meet a fair number of research scientists. I note in passing that NASA science programs are being cut yet again ![]() Regards, Martin Brown |
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:03:12 +0000, Martin Brown
wrote: Theodore Baldwin Boothe III wrote: I know throwing money at something isn't always the best thing to do, but if you in the climate/weather sciences had something on your wish list what would it be? Get all the nepotistic politically appointed liars who censor public reporting of scientific research that is unpopular with the neocon Evangelical YEC agenda out of NASA & NOAA scientists hair. The US public deserves to know the truth. http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2...-nasa-science/ So far we only have one scalp in Deutsch but more will follow if there is any justice. One down hundreds more to go - unfortunately most of the rest were smart enough not to lie on their CV. Increase the budget? Or something else? Also, is there something (I) can do to either help get this done or get more involved? You could try writing to your congress critter but unless you can bung him more money than the oil men and tobacco industry you are not likely to make a whole lot of difference. I have a degree but it has very little, actually nothing, to do with climate or weather. I am not directly in the climate science field so I have no particular axe to grind on their funding. My business is software for scientific instruments so I meet a fair number of research scientists. I note in passing that NASA science programs are being cut yet again ![]() Regards, Martin Brown Yes, politics should have no place in science. I am reminded of these genetic ethicists on tv all the time talking about how human cloning would be wrong. My question is, is this one guy going to decide this for everyone else? Why? Also, christopher reeve pushed stem cell research knowing embryonic stem cells had more, if not the only, hope in getting to therapies. All that was offered was human stem cells because someone thinks that govt funding of embryonic stem cells would cause a dramatic increase in abortions? one more. The reason drugs are illegal is because if they were made legal "everyone" would try drugs. This is silly and an outright lie. Politics and science mix as well as turds in tea. You can't ever ruin the turds, no matter how much tea you put with it. But the tea is bad, no matter how small of an amount of turds you put in it. |
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:59:12 -0500,
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III , in wrote: + if you in the climate/weather sciences had something on your wish + list what would it be? + + Increase the budget? Or something else? A better observational (both time and space) network would be a good start. -- Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good, either. I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated. |
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