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Global Temperature Cycles Are Small Change

Yes, there might be cycles in the NASA-GISS
"GLB.Ts+dSST.txt" global mean land and sea
surface temperature record, but they are a very
small part of the whole story when compared to
the massive accelerating global warming trend.

Please see:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Glob...ean%20Temp.jpg

The linear R^2 on the yearly trend line drawn above
is ~70%. Any other trend, cycles of so many years
for example, accounts for only the remaining 30% of
the variance. There are 20.2-year and 57.8-year
cycles in these data, but the sine term commands
just 12% and 17% of the variance in their respective
regression equations:

Global Temperature=
(4.40 + .00493 * Year + .0506 * sin(8.08 + (Year * 2*PI)/20.22))C
(That's only a .1K amplitude for the sine term,
about what the warming trend typically gains in
the same 20-year period. The graph of this
function looks like a curvy step ladder.)

Global Temperature=
(4.35 + .00495 * Year - .103 * sin(32.5 + (Year * 2*PI)/57.8))C
(The fossil fools built their 1970s global
cooling myth on the down side of this cycle.
With only two cycles on the record, I wouldn't
jump to any 57.8-year conclusions here, either.)

In both cases, the linear warming trend, with a huge
~70% of the variance, dominates everything during the
126 years of these data. If you are talking about
cycles here, you are just one very small hop above
grasping at straws. The big picture here is global
warming, not global cycles.


-.-. --.- Roger


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Roger Coppock wrote:
Global Temperature Cycles Are Small Change

Yes, there might be cycles in the NASA-GISS
"GLB.Ts+dSST.txt" global mean land and sea
surface temperature record, but they are a very
small part of the whole story when compared to
the massive accelerating global warming trend.

Please see:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Glob...ean%20Temp.jpg

The linear R^2 on the yearly trend line drawn above
is ~70%. Any other trend, cycles of so many years
for example, accounts for only the remaining 30% of
the variance. There are 20.2-year and 57.8-year
cycles in these data, but the sine term commands
just 12% and 17% of the variance in their respective
regression equations:

Global Temperature=
(4.40 + .00493 * Year + .0506 * sin(8.08 + (Year * 2*PI)/20.22))C
(That's only a .1K amplitude for the sine term,
about what the warming trend typically gains in
the same 20-year period. The graph of this
function looks like a curvy step ladder.)

Global Temperature=
(4.35 + .00495 * Year - .103 * sin(32.5 + (Year * 2*PI)/57.8))C
(The fossil fools built their 1970s global
cooling myth on the down side of this cycle.
With only two cycles on the record, I wouldn't
jump to any 57.8-year conclusions here, either.)

In both cases, the linear warming trend, with a huge
~70% of the variance, dominates everything during the
126 years of these data. If you are talking about
cycles here, you are just one very small hop above
grasping at straws. The big picture here is global
warming, not global cycles.


-.-. --.- Roger


There is no global model for climate norms ,there is only the
hemispherical variable axial tilt mechanism which was created for the
purpose of finding terrestial longitudes by the celestial sphere method
in the 17th century,specifically the 'analemmatic' fudge which was
meant to explain the variations in the length of the natural day.

http://www.analemma.com/Pages/framesPage.html

It is rightly an insult to intelligence insofar as the information and
data of global climate norms and imbalances is fine but the correct
global perspective for climate norms through astronomical causes has
yet to catch up with the data.

Cyclical seasonal meteorolgical norms are fine as a hemispherical
convenience but to impose the hemispherical mechanism on a global view
is intellectual and intutive suicide for ultimately the hemispherical
view is based on non existent variable axial tilt -

http://www.scienceu.com/observatory/...s/earthyrb.gif

If a climatologist finds that variable axial tilting Earth
disturbing,and it is !, I strongly suggest that they drop considering
the data until they get the astronomical mechanism for climate norms
straight.That mechanism is changing orbital orientation against fixed
axial orientation which keeps things local rather than the view of the
hemispherical Earthers who reference axial orientation to the distant
Sun.

Without the correct working principles for global climate norms through
astronomical causes,the whole exercise will be a waste of time and only
a testament to the intellectual and intutive feebleness.

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oriel36 wrote:

There is no global model for climate norms ,there is only the
hemispherical variable axial tilt mechanism


There sure are a lot of crackpots, though.

Plenty to go around.

http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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Its not the .1C or .2C changing temp.in Global Warming but rather the
quanity of expanded heat to a higher altitude due to more activity in
making product and population that adds to Global side effects actual
change in convert of matter to a vapor that heats everything. The
exhaust heat off
automotive tail pipes discharg at over 100 deg. in Co2
just think how many are running discharg Co2 rite now and 24hr. a
day/365d./yr/. from a massive populated modern world.
that heat has to go some where no?? yea stright up...

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"oriel36" wrote

Without the correct working principles for global climate norms through
astronomical causes,the whole exercise will be a waste of time and only
a testament to the intellectual and intutive feebleness.


Well stated.




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Jim McGinn wrote:

Well stated.


You are given LEGAL NOTICE that you are aiding and abetting an
ORGANIZED CRIME FELONY FRAUD operation, that you have joined in an
"enterprise" as defined by law, have committed one or more acts of
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enterprise. From this date forward any further actions on your part to
aid this enterprise are legally considered prima facia premeditated,
willful intent to violate FEDERAL LAW.

SEPPtic Tank is an ORGANIZED CRIME front operation headed by lifelong
career-criminal S. Fred Singer.

In 1994 Singer wrote a science hoax piece for big tobacco. The piece
was submitted to RJ Reynolds lawyers pre-publication. The piece was
short some "peer-reviewers" so a request was made for some names of
tame "whitecoats" willing to lie for money to sign off on the document.
Ultimately a bunch of names appeared on this science hoax document, as
well as inside it's pages. The whole thing became evidence in the
FEDERAL trial of the Big Seven Tobacco Companies in the late 1990s. The
documents were produced by subpoena (a turm meaning "under pain", like
we will hurt you bad if you don't comply). The evidence passed due
process of law in a trial admitted as evidence. The judge ordered the
evidence posted online for 10 years at Big Tobacco's expense -- oh,
year, the Tobacco Companies also agreed to pay $246,000,000,000.00 too.

Fred Singer is corrupt and I have seen the evidence from the trial that
proved he is corrupt. He is an ORGANIZED CRIME figure who uses science
hoaxes for corporate clients to falsify the state of knowledge on
subjects his clients need confused and obfuscated.

SEPP was organized in the premises of a Sun Myung Moon-owned office
suite. Moon is also a career criminal who was convicted of tax evasion
and money laundering, sent to FREDERAL PRISON, and is a known felon
convict.

FRED SINGER's SEPPtic Tank moved to the offices of Charles G. Koch
Summer Fellows Program at the Koch-owned George Mason University.
Killer Charles G. Koch and brother Killer David Koch operate KOCH
INDUSTRIES, which itself has been convicted of the largest fine in
corporate history -- $35,000,000.00 for pollution of air, lands and
waters of six states.

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2000/January/019enrd.htm
http://www.motherjones.com/news/spec...0/51_koch.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Jul8.html
http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress...9?OpenDocument

Charges G. Koch co-founded CATO Inst., David Koch sits on it's board
watching the family interests, and SINGER, MILLOY, MICHAELS, LINDZEN &
BALLING are all organized crime figures on the payrolls of a known
ORGANIZED CRIME ring founded by known ORGANIZED CRIME Lords.
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/em.php?mapid=361

http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.atlasusa.org/highlight_ar...vironment.html
Dr. Singer. SEPP's address is 4084 University Drive, Suite 101,
Fairfax, VA 22030 (Tel. 703-934-6932).

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http://snipurl.com/oga1
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http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
Documenting the Corruption of S. Fred Singer
http://snipurl.com/ogay
Results about 333 for "Science, Economics, and Environmental Policy: A
Critical Examination".

Jim McGinn begin to spin the mortal sin of lies worn thin, his din of
has-been tactics herein a siamese twin of crooks, kissing kin of
pigskin, gets his foreskin pinned in a tailspin to his chagrin. He'll
never win, play the sad violin, he cops it on the chin.

Sparky @zig-zag.net wrote:
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Google Results "Jim McGinn" arrest warrant issued.


http://snipurl.com/oppy
Google Results: "Jim McGinn" arrested for fraud.


Does anybody know if this is the same McGinn that used to post on
sci.environment? I always knew he would turn up bad in the end, all his
association with organized crime figures.


http://snipurl.com/opqb
Google Results "Jim McGinn" connected to organized crime.


It looks like there are reports that Jim McGinn has been arrested for
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http://snipurl.com/oqp1
Google Results for "Jim McGinn" arrested for fraud

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Organized Crimes.

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So, you now agree that your statements about
'natural cycles' were intellectually feeble, Jim?

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No, but if they're hiring I'd like them to take a look at my resume.




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Jim McGinn wrote:
No, but if they're hiring I'd like them to take a look at my resume.


They are always hiring minimum wage interns to spam newsgroups. The pay
is about $600 per month plus they put you up in one of their dormatory
houses because you can't afford Wash DC rents on their wages. Not that
the CATO Institute bosses COULDN'T afford to pay higher wages -- they
are billionaires, after all, -- it's just that there are so many cheap
rightwing whores that they can buy the sluts a dime-a-dozen.

You apply at the Charles G. Koch Summer Fellows Program, same office
suite that houses IHS (Institute for Humane Studies) that Fred Singer
claims as his employer, in fact exact same office suite that FRED
SINGER and SEPP were located at for ten years after they moved out of
the MOONIE-Owned suite that Michael Fumento and Dennis Avery now
occupy.

========

FRED SINGER's SEPPtic Tank moved to the offices of Charles G. Koch
Summer Fellows Program at the Koch-owned George Mason University.
Killer Charles G. Koch and brother Killer David Koch operate KOCH
INDUSTRIES, which itself has been convicted of the largest fine in
corporate history -- $35,000,000.00 for pollution of air, lands and
waters of six states.

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2000/January/019enrd.htm
http://www.motherjones.com/news/spec...0/51_koch.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Jul8.html
http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress...9?OpenDocument

Charges G. Koch co-founded CATO Inst., David Koch sits on it's board
watching the family interests, and SINGER, MILLOY, MICHAELS, LINDZEN &
BALLING are all organized crime figures on the payrolls of a known
ORGANIZED CRIME ring founded by known ORGANIZED CRIME Lords.
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/em.php?mapid=361

http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.atlasusa.org/highlight_ar...vironment.html
Dr. Singer. SEPP's address is 4084 University Drive, Suite 101,
Fairfax, VA 22030 (Tel. 703-934-6932).

http://snipurl.com/og9j
Results about 172 for 4084 University Drive, Suite 101 Fairfax, VA
22030 Koch.
http://snipurl.com/og9o
Results about 92 for 4084 University Drive, Suite 101 Fairfax, VA
22030 SEPP.
http://snipurl.com/og9s
Resultsabout 149 for 4084 University Drive, Suite 101 Fairfax, VA 22030
IHS | "Institute for Humane Studies"

http://snipurl.com/oga1
Results about 581 for Fred Singer Koch IHS | "Institute for Humane
Studies".

http://snipurl.com/ogai
Science, Economics, and Environmental Policy: A Critical Examination
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
Documenting the Corruption of S. Fred Singer
http://snipurl.com/ogay
Results about 333 for "Science, Economics, and Environmental Policy: A
Critical Examination".

Jim McGinn begin to spin the mortal sin of lies worn thin, his din of
has-been tactics herein a siamese twin of crooks, kissing kin of
pigskin, gets his foreskin pinned in a tailspin to his chagrin. He'll
never win, play the sad violin, he cops it on the chin.

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Roger Coppock wrote:
You're saying that there is no mechanism.
I'm saying that there isn't even a siginificant
correlation. We, therefore, agree.


It is not that simple Roger.

The working principles for climate norms presently look similar to the
creationist working principles for geological evolution and I assure
you that it is that bad.

Call it an enormous oversight if you will and treat it that way, but
permitting a hemispherical variable axial tilting Earth to the Sun is
very hard to stomach in an era which already has excellent climate data
indicating global climate imbalances.

http://www.scienceu.com/observatory/...s/seasons.html

The mechanism or what amounts to the same thing ; the astronomical
working principles , rely on an entirely different perspective which
brings astronomical causes in line with the global climate data and can
be reduced to hemispherical meteorological descriptions as a
convenience.



The Fossil Fools disagree with both of us.
They're saying that global warming is all due
to natural cycles.



Any ex-smoker ,as I am, will tell you of the damage of dumping
pollution into the lungs and the difference it makes to the body when
the smoker comes to his senses and stops smoking,I imagine that smokers
are more likely to recognise that global warming is a planetary
response to dumping pollution into the atmosphere just as smoking
generates physical imbalances in the body.Most people as they get older
marvel at how the body works and do attempt to curb their behavior to
allow the body to do its job but when it comes to the planet,suddenly
it is a different story.

I hope you see my point is framing global warming as an imbalance
however there is no indication that scientists accept the astronomical
cause for climate norms or balances,prefering to frame climate norms in
hemispherical meteorological patterns of summer/winter (as in that
website above).Even in broad outline,climate norms are every bit as
intricate as the workings of the human body yet the Earth is treated in
the most perverse way -

http://www.scienceu.com/observatory/...s/earthyrb.gif

Those who argue that global warming is due to natural cycles may seem
like they know what they are talking about but I assure you that what
they believe is almost as frightening as global warming itself.



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