Very interesting NOVA show tonight on what is perhaps the opposite of
Global Warming which is called Global Dimming. This is the increase of
manmade pollutants of particles in the lower atmosphere of cloud
distance and which reflects Sun photons. Particles such as ash, soot,
nitrates, sulfates, etc.

I took some notes but was unable to catch the numbers figures.

(1) It was noticed in Israel of about 20% decline in sunlight to the
agriculture and about 16% decline in Germany and about 10% decline in
USA over the past ??years.

(2) Noticed that "pan evaporation rate" in Australia was contrary to
Global Warming but in agreement with diminishing sunlight.

(3) Maldives southern islands are rather pristine free from pollutants
but northern islands near India and its pollution indicates Global
Dimming by these pollutants where they turn clouds into mirrors. And
these pollutants form a shield and a mirror to sunlight.

(4) Pollutants change the rain pattern of continents where the rainbelt
does not move northward but remains at the equator in summer causing
drought in some regions and flooding in others.

(5) Aqua satellite measured that about 1/2 of the Global Warming is cut
by the Global Dimming. So without the Dimming, the Warming would now be
twice as bad.

(6) Global Warming could accelerate and watchful especially of the
frozen methane locked up in the polar ice regions. Methane is 10X worse
of a greenhouse gas than CO2.

End of my notes.

For years now I have been harking for Aluminum Sequin to be cargo
hauled unto the Space Station where it is then released and cools Earth
as a Air Conditioner. The principle of reflection as a coolant of
Earth. My scheme follows the past history of volcano activity as a
pollutant that reflects sunlight. But I was not aware of how large a
reflector of manmade pollution at this present moment.

We still need another reflection system of Aluminum Sequin. And another
new fact is airplane jet "con-trails". Until this show, I was unaware
of how much of a factor they are to weather and climate.

So I propose that we fight Global Warming with a two pronged attack. We
still inject Aluminum Sequin in upper atmosphere from the Space
Station. But secondly we add cargo bags of some reflector lightweight
material on every jet airplane trip which emits the cargo at specified
points.

Perhaps the jet airplanes alone can neutralize Global Warming. Perhaps
we do not need the Aluminum Sequin in upper atmosphere.

Anyway, the goal is to completely neutralize Global Warming with that
of Global Dimming and Jet Airplanes Cargo Dump and Space Station
Dumping.

At present time we have Global Warming - Global Dimming = a heating up
planet.

What we want is:

Global Warming - Global Dimming - Jet Con-Trails Cargo Dump - Space
Station Aluminum Sequin = zero planet heating up.

We will know when we are on a path of correct Global weather when we
have no more polar ice cap melting, and when we have the fewest
hurricanes and tornadoes ever witnessed.

Caveat: there is a price to pay for this and that is the less sunlight
does affect the Earth's plant life. At some point, though, I feel the
only apt solution is to put an upper limit on human population and
where renewable energy is the main consumption all regulated so that
population, climate, environment are balanced.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

You didn't quite take notes well. You missed one very important
point: the growth rates. Greenhouse gas forced global warming is
growing faster than aerosol forced global dimming. So, though
global dimming may cancel 1/2 of global warming today, it will
cancel a much less significant fraction of global warming tomorrow.
Therefore, global dimming is not the solution to global warming,
greenhouse gas emission reductions are.

The problem with your Aluminum Sequin idea remains the same. The
trick to calculate the area that needs to block the Sun. It's now a
wopping 0.2% of the Earth's cross section, or 300,000 km squared!
That figure is growing, too. Below, is my post of a few months ago.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Let's run some numbers on this idea . . .
The solar constant is ~1367 Watts per Meter squared
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Constant
Global Warming is now about 3 watts per meter squared,
which is 0.2% of the solar constant.
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/simodel/
(Global Warming will quadruple in a century or two.)

The cross sectional area of the Earth is 125,000,000 km²
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Constant

The area of Aluminum sequin in orbit needed to remove the current
global warming is, therefore roughly .002 * 125,000,000 km squared
or 300000 km squared.

If your sequins were one 10,000th of a meter thick, you would need
to orbit 30 km cubed worth of Aluminum.

The density of Aluminum is 2.70 g/cm³.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum

One km cubed is equal to 10 to the 15 cm cubed.

So you want to orbit 8 times 10 to the 13 the power kg
of Aluminum.

Well then, GOOD LUCK.
Even if you could reduce this by, say, making your sequins
1/1000 thiner, it would still be impossible. But . . .

I've got an idea! WHY NOT JUST REDUCE THE EMISSIONS
OF GREENHOUSE GASES? Wouldn't that be easier?
Of course, one could not write good science fiction with
this solution, because greenhouse gas reduction is just
too practical.

Well I used to think it was going to be cargo hauling of Aluminum Sequin
to the Space Station and releasing over the Equatorial belt to solve
Global Warming.

But after watching this NOVA show on jet con-trails and particle
pollutants, I have now come to the assessment that by requiring 1/2 of
the cargo capacity of all jet airplanes that fly, releasing that cargo
of "reflectants" at a designated apogee of their flight path would solve
Global Warming.

We have the power to control Global Warming from just our jet aircraft
commercial flights. We do not need rockets and the Space Station.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

I think the biggest surprize in all of this discussion of Global Warming
has not yet been seriously taken up. It is the idea I touched upon some
years back. The idea is that microbes live in the upper atmosphere and
multiply because of the CO2 and Sun's photon nutrient.

As Global Warming continues and as the upper atmosphere becomes more
dense in gases creates a whole new environment.

The reason I abandoned this idea several years ago is that it is
dangerous for the plants and animals on the surface of Earth. Imagine if
the upper atmosphere becomes a new bio-base for some form of bacteria or
fungus that requires only the Sun light and the CO2. This is dangerous
because mutations may arise where it is going to take much energy and
time for humanity to keep these microbes from blocking out too much of
the Sun.

I was thinking of researching and mutating microbes in the lab that
would live on photons and the greenhouse gases. And then transplant
these microbes into the upper atmosphere. But it is dangerous for the
mutation.

However, thinking about it now, I am pretty sure that such microbes will
eventually arise by themselves, without any human intervention. It may
well have already begun. And that some future year, someone will be
annoyed by a "blurr" of the sky. That it is not as clear as it used to
be. And then find out it is because of microbes living and multiplying
in the upper atmosphere.

What we can do in the laboratory is run experiments to see if any
composition of gases and photons is a viable nutrient environment for
some species of microbes. If my memory is correct there were 3 species
of microbes found to live in the upper atmosphere but did not multiply
there. They survived but did not multiply. But if these 3 species
somehow found the upper atmosphere conducive and multiplied.

Not only would these microbes solve Global Warming but pose a threat to
the extinction of many lifeforms on the surface. The threat is mutation
to other forms that finds the atmosphere as a home environment.

So I think the biggest surprize in Global Warming awaits us with
microbes making the atmosphere their home and adversely affecting life
on the surface of Earth.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

wrote:
(all else snipped)

Global Warming - Global Dimming - Jet Con-Trails Cargo Dump - Space
Station Aluminum Sequin = zero planet heating up.



I should write a comprehensive Formula. A formula that addresses the
major cause of Global Warming is the human overpopulation with its
increasing desire to burn fossil fuels. Most people leave out the human
overpopulation, but there can be no solving of this problem without
addressing human population size.


We would like to control climate and weather so that it is reliable and
dependable year after year. So the formula would like to have zero
heating up of the planet Earth.

So, 0 = Global Warming subtract Global Dimming

Under Global Dimming would be jet airplanes dumping cargo hauls of
reflectants.

Under Global Dimming would be Aluminum Sequin cargo hauled into upper
atmosphere and released over equatorial belt, placed in orbit from the
Space Station.

So the formula is 0 = GlobalWarming - GlobalDimming

But it needs the factor of human population, for a rising human
population skews the formula. So I need the term human overpopulation.

0 = (GlobalWarming - GlobalDimming)- humanoverpopulation

It is like wars in sociology, as long as human populations keep rising,
there will be more wars on the horizon. And as long as human populations
keep rising, GlobalWarming will increase.

My vision of a great future scene when all of these problems are
resolved is a future in which every human is born because that person
has a place in the world. All energy is renewable and the Earth is run
in grids of renewable energy sources. There is no pollution in this
future environment. There are no wars. There is control of the weather
and climate. But none of this future can be like this unless the size of
human population is fixed at a determinant number.

The reason we have wars is because we cannot control our population
numbers. The reason we have pollution and GlobalWarming is because we
overpopulate ourselves.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

Ha Ha! How long does a jet contrail last?
How long the the CO2 in the same jet exhaust last?


You're every bit the total idiot your Wikipedia
advance press says you are.

"a_plutonium" wrote in message
...


wrote:
(all else snipped)

Global Warming - Global Dimming - Jet Con-Trails Cargo Dump - Space
Station Aluminum Sequin = zero planet heating up.



I should write a comprehensive Formula. A formula that addresses the
major cause of Global Warming is the human overpopulation with its
increasing desire to burn fossil fuels. Most people leave out the human
overpopulation, but there can be no solving of this problem without
addressing human population size.


We would like to control climate and weather so that it is reliable and
dependable year after year. So the formula would like to have zero
heating up of the planet Earth.

So, 0 = Global Warming subtract Global Dimming

Under Global Dimming would be jet airplanes dumping cargo hauls of
reflectants.

Under Global Dimming would be Aluminum Sequin cargo hauled into upper
atmosphere and released over equatorial belt, placed in orbit from the
Space Station.

So the formula is 0 = GlobalWarming - GlobalDimming

But it needs the factor of human population, for a rising human
population skews the formula. So I need the term human overpopulation.

0 = (GlobalWarming - GlobalDimming)- humanoverpopulation

It is like wars in sociology, as long as human populations keep rising,
there will be more wars on the horizon. And as long as human populations
keep rising, GlobalWarming will increase.

My vision of a great future scene when all of these problems are
resolved is a future in which every human is born because that person
has a place in the world. All energy is renewable and the Earth is run
in grids of renewable energy sources. There is no pollution in this
future environment. There are no wars. There is control of the weather
and climate. But none of this future can be like this unless the size of
human population is fixed at a determinant number.

"Bartender, cut this man off."

In article ,
a_plutonium wrote:


wrote:
(all else snipped)

Global Warming - Global Dimming - Jet Con-Trails Cargo Dump - Space
Station Aluminum Sequin = zero planet heating up.



I should write a comprehensive Formula. A formula that addresses the

Right after you square a circle.

major cause of Global Warming is the human overpopulation with its
increasing desire to burn fossil fuels. Most people leave out the human
overpopulation, but there can be no solving of this problem without
addressing human population size.


We would like to control climate and weather so that it is reliable and
dependable year after year. So the formula would like to have zero
heating up of the planet Earth.

So, 0 = Global Warming subtract Global Dimming

Under Global Dimming would be jet airplanes dumping cargo hauls of
reflectants.

Under Global Dimming would be Aluminum Sequin cargo hauled into upper
atmosphere and released over equatorial belt, placed in orbit from the
Space Station.

So the formula is 0 = GlobalWarming - GlobalDimming

But it needs the factor of human population, for a rising human
population skews the formula. So I need the term human overpopulation.

0 = (GlobalWarming - GlobalDimming)- humanoverpopulation

It is like wars in sociology, as long as human populations keep rising,
there will be more wars on the horizon. And as long as human populations
keep rising, GlobalWarming will increase.

My vision of a great future scene when all of these problems are
resolved is a future in which every human is born because that person
has a place in the world. All energy is renewable and the Earth is run
in grids of renewable energy sources. There is no pollution in this
future environment. There are no wars. There is control of the weather
and climate. But none of this future can be like this unless the size of
human population is fixed at a determinant number.

The reason we have wars is because we cannot control our population
numbers. The reason we have pollution and GlobalWarming is because we
overpopulate ourselves.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

Lloyd Parker wrote:
In article ,
a_plutonium wrote:


wrote:
(all else snipped)

Global Warming - Global Dimming - Jet Con-Trails Cargo Dump - Space
Station Aluminum Sequin = zero planet heating up.



I should write a comprehensive Formula. A formula that addresses the

Right after you square a circle.

major cause of Global Warming is the human overpopulation with its
increasing desire to burn fossil fuels. Most people leave out the human
overpopulation, but there can be no solving of this problem without
addressing human population size.


We would like to control climate and weather so that it is reliable and
dependable year after year. So the formula would like to have zero
heating up of the planet Earth.

So, 0 = Global Warming subtract Global Dimming

Under Global Dimming would be jet airplanes dumping cargo hauls of
reflectants.

Under Global Dimming would be Aluminum Sequin cargo hauled into upper
atmosphere and released over equatorial belt, placed in orbit from the
Space Station.

So the formula is 0 = GlobalWarming - GlobalDimming

But it needs the factor of human population, for a rising human
population skews the formula. So I need the term human overpopulation.

0 = (GlobalWarming - GlobalDimming)- humanoverpopulation

It is like wars in sociology, as long as human populations keep rising,
there will be more wars on the horizon. And as long as human populations
keep rising, GlobalWarming will increase.

My vision of a great future scene when all of these problems are
resolved is a future in which every human is born because that person
has a place in the world. All energy is renewable and the Earth is run
in grids of renewable energy sources. There is no pollution in this
future environment. There are no wars. There is control of the weather
and climate. But none of this future can be like this unless the size of
human population is fixed at a determinant number.

The reason we have wars is because we cannot control our population
numbers. The reason we have pollution and GlobalWarming is because we
overpopulate ourselves.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies




Guess we better move all of the other objects in new earth orbit so we
can release all the spare pepsi cans out of a rocket to save the
earth.... u know, while were at it why dont shoot a few of those old
tires out there too, always looking for something to do with those...