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Default A very good article on polar climate changes

In article .com,
says...


Scott L wrote:
Eric Swanson wrote:
says...

But even at night the basin has some cyclones -which are I imagine, as
likely to raise the temperature by 5 or so degrees C over the average
there as in the Atlantic..


Sorry, guy, you lost me with that one. The pictures above are images of

sun
glint as seen from the Space Shuttle. I thought we were refering to

albedo..
Hint: The Space Shuttle orbit doesn't go far enough northwards to image

the
sub-polar gyre of the North Atlantic.


So I wasn't the only one confused (phew). The images
are of the Indian Ocean. Not the Arctic.


Albedo -and in fact insolation is of no concern to me. I doubt that
there is all that much O/A difference year to year in the input-output.

Certainly not enough to cause the emotional disturbances in the OP
anyway.

I was merely wandering how much cyclonic activity affects temperatures
in the Arctic basin. It appears that these disturbances start in the
depths of an ocean. What causes their giration remains to be seen.

(I of course already know what, if not how.)

Another difference between me and the lost, is that I see cyclonic
activity as regenerative not destructive.

But then I see earthquakes and vocanic activity in that light too. It
is people building houses in dangerous places not the weather itself
that causes the problems and it doesn't help when the countries
involved are run by criminally incompetents.


In the physical sciences, one measures what one can't see. What measurements
do you offer to support your "vision" of motions in the Arctic Ocean, given
that there's a cap of sea-ice for most of the year? How you can see anything
while wearing that tinfoil helmet is beyond me. I suppose you just close
your eyes and use your "in-vision".

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Eric Swanson --- E-mail address: e_swanson(at)skybest.com :-)
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