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![]() John Savage wrote: I don't know the cottonwood, it's not native where I live. But I do see the scotch thistle producing a lot of very lightweight fluffy fibre to catch the wind and disperse its seeds. Before it is ready for release it's packed very densely in capsules. Spider's web would be a light- weight fibre. But I expect you'll be needing something that is resistant to degradation under high ozone, extremely high UV conditions. -- John Savage (my news address is not valid for email) Yes the Cottonwood seeds comes in pods before they open and release the seeds. Perhaps if thistle seeds become the very best reflectant, I suppose we can grow them in fields as a agriculture crop and the beauty of thistles is that you never really have to plant them. Although your neighbors trying to grow corn or beans may view your fields with disdain. I suppose Pinatuba was a rather rare and unique volcano eruption in that it emitted mostly sulfuric acid into the atmosphere and sulfuric acid is a good reflectant of Sun rays. So that most other volcanoes do not have this high amount of sulfuric acid release. As to whether cottonwood seed or thistle seed or some grinded wood pulp is as good or better than sulfuric acid as a reflector, I do not know. Paper and seeds are certainly much safer than sulfuric acid in the air. We need the material scientists and chemists to answer what is the best reflectant that can be delivered by airplanes to solve global warming. It probably is a material that ends up surprizing us all. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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![]() Gordon wrote: How long has it been since the last major volcanic eruptions? Are volcanic eruptions and the resultant sulfates spewed into the atmosphere perhaps the primary cause of short term warm/cool cycles? If you really want to know, why not read a science book instead of posting in usenet groups totally infested by rightwinger disinformation posters who wqill tell you any lie that furthers their subversion of America? Here's some of the places that pay minimum wage to cheap whore interns to lie away Exxon's CO2 Global Warming... Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty has received $160,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998. Africa Fighting Malaria has received $30,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998. American Council for Capital Formation Center for Policy Research has received $1,309,523 from ExxonMobil since 1998. American Council on Science and Health has received $110,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998. 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I have had a chance to look at thistle seeds today and compare them to
cottonwood seed. The thistle seed has more weight so is not going to float around as much. But the thistle may have in its favor more reflective traits. The thistle is more solid white and the cottonwood is very opaque. Another feature in favor of thistle is that it will not bunch together. Also, the thistle is easy to agriculturally grow and harvest unlike cottonwood trees. So how much farm land would it take to amass 30 cubic kilometers of thistle seed capsules. A capsule is before it opens and releases all the seeds inside. It maybe the case that the best reflectant is a seed that is not amenable to producing in some sort of mass production artificially. Such as wood pulp ground into a Sequin Reflectant or cotton processed into a Sequin Reflectant. We may find out that some seed is the finest Sequin Relfectant, such as thistle, and that we cannot match it in some industrial mass production substitute. We would have to await the analysis of material scientists. P.S. in the news tonight of the BBC was a report that the EU was going to restrict airline flights for their CO2 emissions was the most rapidly growing emissions causing global warming. Ironic, if instead, the EU required the airlines to start cargo hauling Thistle Seed Sequin and releasing in their flight apogee and thus the airline the main solvers of all of global warming. So where the airlines are now perceived as the worst villians of global warming may turn around and be the group that actually solves global warming as it delivers Sequin into the atmosphere. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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