If you take the quakes below 4M out of the following sit's list, the
run up to the Java quake and tsunami would have been in the region of
sparse to thinner

17th
5.8 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
6.3 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.5 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.2 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.1 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
4.9 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.4 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.8 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.4 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
6.0 JAVA, INDONESIA
6.2 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.7 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
7.7 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.3 SOUTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA
4.5 RAT ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS, ALASKA

16th
5.0 TARAPACA, CHILE
5.2 GUAM REGION
4.7 FIJI REGION
5.1 HALMAHERA, INDONESIA
6.3 OFFSHORE ATACAMA, CHILE

15th
4.7 FIJI REGION
5.1 OFF THE WEST COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA
4.9 KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION
5.8 BANDA SEA

14th
4.0 SOUTHERN IDAHO
4.4 SALTA, ARGENTINA
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_all.php

Perhaps if they had a separate page for their local quakes, or at least
the ones below 4M, the page might provide a little in the way of a
warning for the next time, eh?
"Latest Earthquakes Magnitude 2.5 or Greater in the United States and
Adjacent Areas and Magnitude 4.0 or Greater in the Rest of the World -
Last 7 days."

As it happens there is more to come so don't unglue your snot 'oles
from the winder.

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
oups.com...
If you take the quakes below 4M out of the following sit's list, the
run up to the Java quake and tsunami would have been in the region of
sparse to thinner

17th
5.8 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
6.3 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.5 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.2 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.1 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
4.9 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.4 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.8 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.4 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
6.0 JAVA, INDONESIA
6.2 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.7 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
7.7 SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA
5.3 SOUTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA
4.5 RAT ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS, ALASKA

16th
5.0 TARAPACA, CHILE
5.2 GUAM REGION
4.7 FIJI REGION
5.1 HALMAHERA, INDONESIA
6.3 OFFSHORE ATACAMA, CHILE

15th
4.7 FIJI REGION
5.1 OFF THE WEST COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA
4.9 KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION
5.8 BANDA SEA

14th
4.0 SOUTHERN IDAHO
4.4 SALTA, ARGENTINA
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_all.php

Perhaps if they had a separate page for their local quakes, or at least
the ones below 4M, the page might provide a little in the way of a
warning for the next time, eh?
"Latest Earthquakes Magnitude 2.5 or Greater in the United States and
Adjacent Areas and Magnitude 4.0 or Greater in the Rest of the World -
Last 7 days."

As it happens there is more to come so don't unglue your snot 'oles
from the winder.


On
http://www2.demis.nl/quakes/

I counted 13 more earthquake aftershocks over 5 so far.

Fizz

Weatherlawyer wrote:
Fizziwig2 wrote:

On http://www2.demis.nl/quakes/

I counted 13 more earthquake aftershocks over 5 so far.

But I was trying to highlight the degree of quiet preceding the flack.

Never mind. Take the aftershocks out of the equation over the next few
days and see what happens by Thursday.

I wonder if there is a connection with that result, to this:
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...c=Worldupdates
(Philippine authorities ordered about 4,000 people to evacuate their
homes and farms near an erupting volcano in the central region,
disaster officials said on Tuesday.

On Friday, volcanologists raised the alert level to 3 on a 1-5 scale
after 2,462-metre (8,077-foot) Mount Mayon began spewing ash and lava.

The experts said Mayon, the most active of 22 volcanoes in the
Southeast Asian country, was showing signs of a major eruption within
weeks.)

This:
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism...8-081113-5841r
( The Jakarta Post reported Tuesday thousands of villagers were fleeing
their homes on Siau island amid new activity from Mt. Karangetang,
which lasted erupted in 1940.

Reports said the sounds of explosions, the spewing of ash and lava
began last week.

Authorities were monitoring the situation, but there was no information
immediately available on whether a major eruption was likely.)

And this:
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/wo...51e8a6&k=88554

(QUITO, Ecuador (AP) - About 500 people of the thousands evacuated by
violent volcano eruptions last week will be permanently resettled
elsewhere, officials said Tuesday.

A hundred families from the hamlet of Bilbao on the western slopes of
the Tungurahua volcano will be relocated because they are unlikely to
be able to return to their homes, said Juan Salazar, mayor of Penipe,
one of more than half a dozen villages evacuated.)

Volcanicity doesn't show up in the NEIC list very often as quakes more
than enough to get the US ones posted. By the time a volcano is active
enough to hit 4M, the news is already spreading.

I said at the start of this year, that there would be thankfully few
North Atlantic Hurricanes this season but that there would be a lot of
seismic disturbances. Looks like I am still on the ball.

Good job somebody is, eh?

Weatherlawyer wrote:

Volcanicity doesn't show up in the NEIC list very often as quakes more
than enough to get the US ones posted. By the time a volcano is active
enough to hit 4M, the news is already spreading.

I said at the start of this year, that there would be thankfully few
North Atlantic Hurricanes this season but that there would be a lot of
seismic disturbances. Looks like I am still on the ball.

Quite a bit of activity on he
http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/us...k=jul_12-18_06
and more to come without doubt.

Weatherlawyer wrote:

Volcanicity doesn't show up in the NEIC list very often as quakes more
than enough to get the US ones posted. By the time a volcano is active
enough to hit 4M, the news is already spreading.

I said at the start of this year, that there would be thankfully few
North Atlantic Hurricanes this season but that there would be a lot of
seismic disturbances. Looks like I am still on the ball.

Quite a bit of activity on he
12-18 July 2006
http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/us...k=jul_12-18_06
and more to come without doubt.

New Activity/Unrest: | Bamus, Papua New Guinea | Karangetang, Indonesia
| Mayon, Philippines | Merapi, Indonesia | Sulu Range, Papua New Guinea
| Tungurahua, Ecuador
Ongoing Activity: | Galeras, Colombia | Karymsky, Russia | Kilauea, USA
| Manam, Papua New Guinea | Semeru, Indonesia | Soufrière Hills,
Montserrat | St. Helens, USA | Suwanose-jima, Japan | Tengger Caldera,
Indonesia | Ubinas, Perú-18_06

Gone quiet again:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_all.php I
wonder what is brewing.

My guess is that after the next few years, volcano and earthquake folks will HAVE to realize how important they are to each other. Maybe problem lies with funding. I've always wondered why the two groups are not more "integrated". Surely lots of earthquakes happen without volcanic danger, but seldom will we see a volcano go without some earthquake precursor. After all, this IS the Ring of Fire, not the NMFZ. Obviously alot is going on under the Phillipines right now, and it would seem a great time to start building some bridges.

Personally, I'm a "connections" guy and I think this has at least something to do with the sun's cycles and orbital geometries. I think much of the same things were going on when we rolled off of solar cycle 20 back in the '70's. Remember global cooling?

DON'T PANIC
Mike

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message oups.com...

Weatherlawyer wrote:

Volcanicity doesn't show up in the NEIC list very often as quakes more
than enough to get the US ones posted. By the time a volcano is active
enough to hit 4M, the news is already spreading.

I said at the start of this year, that there would be thankfully few
North Atlantic Hurricanes this season but that there would be a lot of
seismic disturbances. Looks like I am still on the ball.

Quite a bit of activity on he
12-18 July 2006
http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/us...k=jul_12-18_06
and more to come without doubt.

New Activity/Unrest: | Bamus, Papua New Guinea | Karangetang, Indonesia
| Mayon, Philippines | Merapi, Indonesia | Sulu Range, Papua New Guinea
| Tungurahua, Ecuador
Ongoing Activity: | Galeras, Colombia | Karymsky, Russia | Kilauea, USA
| Manam, Papua New Guinea | Semeru, Indonesia | Soufrière Hills,
Montserrat | St. Helens, USA | Suwanose-jima, Japan | Tengger Caldera,
Indonesia | Ubinas, Perú-18_06

Gone quiet again:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...quakes_all.php I
wonder what is brewing.

"Flaugher" wrote in
:

My guess is that after the next few years, volcano and earthquake folks
will HAVE to realize how important they are to each other. Maybe problem
lies with funding. I've always wondered why the two groups are not more
"integrated". Surely lots of earthquakes happen without volcanic danger,
but seldom will we see a volcano go without some earthquake precursor.

Of course they are related, in the sense that both are driven
by plate tectonics.

However, the mechanisms that drive vocanic earthquakes are
different form those that drive 'normal' earthquakes.

Volcanos can cause earthquakes, but earthquakes don't cause
volcanos.


Personally, I'm a "connections" guy and I think this has at least
something to do with the sun's cycles and orbital geometries.

Only in a remote esoteric way.

DON'T PANIC

What for? You're mostly harmless anyway.


P.S. some hints about posting. Don't post in HTML or MIME. Usenet
is a text only medium and all that extra junk shows up as garbage
on real newsreaders.

Also, have your software insert carriage returns on line wrap, or
do it manually. Your paragraphs are coming in as one long line
scrolling 5 feet off the right side of my monitor.

Brian
--
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Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

Flaugher wrote:
My guess is that after the next few years, volcano and earthquake folks will HAVE to realize how important they are to each other. Maybe problem lies with funding. I've always wondered why the two groups are not more "integrated".

Flaugher,

The problem isn't with funding and it never has been. Anyone who
seriously believes that needs to take off the rose colored glasses.
What's lacking is in education or training as to how to collect those
dollars. The government isn't the only cash kow in the world.
Excuses.... excuses!

I could tell you how, but I've done it before and someone profitted
from my advice and I haven't seen a thank you for it yet. And I don't
expect one at any time in the future either. One of these days I'm
going to look that person in the eye and ask "so how that's money
factory going?"

As for the rest, you'd have to ask the professionals.

Petra

In article , Skywise wrote:
Volcanos can cause earthquakes, but earthquakes don't cause
volcanos.

As so often, there is an exception - there are lots of report of
"mud volcanos" being shaken into increased activity by earthquakes.
Since they can be hundreds of metres high (even on-shore ones!) with
seepages of gas and/ or oil from the summit to even add that little
element of flame to confuse people more.

--
Aidan Karley, FGS
Aberdeen, Scotland
Written at Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:52 +0100, but posted later.

Petra wrote:
Flaugher wrote:
My guess is that after the next few years, volcano and earthquake folks will HAVE to realize how important they are to each other. Maybe problem lies with funding. I've always wondered why the two groups are not more "integrated".

Flaugher,

The problem isn't with funding and it never has been. Anyone who
seriously believes that needs to take off the rose colored glasses.
What's lacking is in education or training as to how to collect those
dollars. The government isn't the only cash kow in the world.
Excuses.... excuses!

I could tell you how, but I've done it before and someone profitted
from my advice and I haven't seen a thank you for it yet. And I don't
expect one at any time in the future either. One of these days I'm
going to look that person in the eye and ask "so how that's money
factory going?"

As for the rest, you'd have to ask the professionals.

Professionals?

Do you mean geologists?

Theory is all very well in its place but when it stands in the way of
science, no amount of funding will give it more than credence.

Truth is beyond religious misconception.