wrote:
Crutzen's plan is sulfur balloons into the stratosphere (10 to 50 km
from surface) from which artillery shells would burst the balloon and
release the sulfur.

I'd think it would be easier to use something like
explosive bolts carried by the balloon to burst
them, but I'm reasonably sure engineers can come
up with something better than artillery to do that
task.


AP's plan is thistle seed (or substitute such as cotton or paper fiber)
into the Troposphere (0 to 10 km from surface) transported by airplanes
releasing the carbon material (thistle seeds) at the apogee of
flightpath. But thistle seed could be emitted by space shuttle or space
station into the Mesosphere (50 to 85 km) or Thermosphere (85 to 110
km).

Crutzen's plan is based on sulfur and the sulfur will stay up there for
about 2 days.

IIRC observations of volcanic aerosols show they stay in
the stratosphere much longer than that (one source for
that statement is _Sunsets, Twilights, and Evening Skies_
by Meinel and Meinel). And if they don't how does one
explain the obervations of how long the cooling effect from
Mount Pinatubo? While I don't consider it the most
definitive source, Wikipedia
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_P...eruptionSulfur
dioxide)
says, "Sulfur dioxide oxidised in the atmosphere to produce
a haze of sulfuric acid droplets, which gradually spread
throughout the stratosphere over the year following the
eruption."

snip

Cheers,
Russell

wrote:
wrote:
Crutzen's plan is sulfur balloons into the stratosphere (10 to 50 km
from surface) from which artillery shells would burst the balloon and
release the sulfur.

I'd think it would be easier to use something like
explosive bolts carried by the balloon to burst
them, but I'm reasonably sure engineers can come
up with something better than artillery to do that
task.


Granted that is true. But the main issue remains that my method is
"free" in that we use the existing airlines and airplanes to be the
transport system of Earth Air Conditioner. Crutzen's method is a
massive construction of balloons that are used for one time purpose and
this is a waste of alot of energy and material.

Now, whether Crutzen's method could do it by compressing sulfur gases
and then release from airplanes is an open question. That is, instead
of the airplanes releasing thistle seed or carbon, they release sulfur
gases. I suspect not because the apogee for sulfur needs to be in the
stratosphere instead of the troposphere.




AP's plan is thistle seed (or substitute such as cotton or paper fiber)
into the Troposphere (0 to 10 km from surface) transported by airplanes
releasing the carbon material (thistle seeds) at the apogee of
flightpath. But thistle seed could be emitted by space shuttle or space
station into the Mesosphere (50 to 85 km) or Thermosphere (85 to 110
km).

Crutzen's plan is based on sulfur and the sulfur will stay up there for
about 2 days.

IIRC observations of volcanic aerosols show they stay in
the stratosphere much longer than that (one source for
that statement is _Sunsets, Twilights, and Evening Skies_
by Meinel and Meinel). And if they don't how does one

I am guessing the website that said 2 days for sulfur was an approx due
to that whenever rain forms in the atmosphere that coincides with the
sulfur, that the sulfur is rained to the ground. So the sulfur over a
desert would stay up there much longer compared to the sulfur over a
rainforest which is washed out quickly.

But my 9 days stay of thistle seed is only an approximation on my part.
Approximating wind updrafts, because we all know there is no "still
air".

And if thistle seed (cotton or paper fiber) act like sulfur to promote
rainfall (silver iodide as in cloud-seeding) then the thistle seed
would stay far less than 9 days as it rains out also.

But this would be a great benefit, because, keep in mind, that
airplanes are flying every day in the world, to re-stock the
troposphere with more thistle seed.




explain the obervations of how long the cooling effect from
Mount Pinatubo? While I don't consider it the most
definitive source, Wikipedia
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_P...eruptionSulfur
dioxide)
says, "Sulfur dioxide oxidised in the atmosphere to produce
a haze of sulfuric acid droplets, which gradually spread
throughout the stratosphere over the year following the
eruption."

snip

Cheers,
Russell

Well, maybe the explanation is how high up the Pinatubo volcano shoot
the sulfur. When shooting very high, the sulfur slowly reaches the
troposphere to rain out. Most volcanoes probably had little sulfur and
probably shot lower than Pinatubo.

But we are very lucky to have had Pinatubo in 1990s to teach us what we
need to construct this Earth Air Conditioner to solve Global Warming.
It is almost as if the gods from the nucleus of the atom-totality
looked up and said -- "give humans a model to build their air
conditioner"

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

writes:
But we are very lucky to have had Pinatubo in 1990s to teach us what we
need to construct this Earth Air Conditioner to solve Global Warming.
It is almost as if the gods from the nucleus of the atom-totality
looked up and said -- "give humans a model to build their air
conditioner"

The gods have again heard your cry. Another volcano in the Phillipines
is at this minute angrily billowing smoke and giving every indication it
may be about to emulate Pinatubo's tantrum.

On another of your brainstorming foci: two weeks back there was a news
item that researchers in Melbourne, Australia have discovered a drug they
believe may be a cure for Alzheimers disease. On tests with transgenic
mice the drug in 24 hours clears the brain completely of amaloid beta
(sp?) the toxic protein that builds up and causes Alzheimers. [Excuse my
paraphrasing.]
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

In article .com, "Archimedes Plutonium" wrote:

[...]


One of my gripes since the 1990s is that the Nobel prize in medicine
for Prion disease to Prusiner was premature and a fake award. That it

I'm sure the committee has taken proper note of your displeasure.