Mount Mayon is in the news as a Philippine volcano that may be similar
to Pinatubo eruption and emission of sulfur dioxide into the upper
atmosphere that created the beautiful cool summers of 1992-3.

Pinatubo is the perfect model to solve Global Warming in that we seed
the troposphere with thistle seed or cotton or paper fibers that float
around for days reflecting Sunlight. We transport the thistle seed via
commercial airplanes on their daily flights.

In the news this week is drought states of the USA and asking for
federal assistance.

Unless we solve Global Warming by thistle seed or another form of
carbon compound transported by commercial airplanes in the apogee of
flightpath. That farmers all over the world will experience more and
more droughts. That we shall repeat the 1930s Dust Bowl here in the
Midwest and even worse because Global Warming threatens the Midwest as
becoming a permanent desert.

World rainfall is a zero-net-sum system which means that as coasts get
drenched with monsoon rains, that surplus of rain is taken away from
the interiors of continents.

I call upon all farmers in the USA who have experienced droughts or
less rainfall than normal to join together and demand the USA
government to build a Earth Air Conditioner such as thistle seed into
the upper atmosphere. To try to achieve every summer to be like 1992-3
where it was cool with plenty of rain.

To get drought relief from the government for 2006 is just a bandaid,
because it will get worse and worse until you are not able to even farm
the land, unless you like farming cactus.

So join together and demand that Washington start seeding the upper
atmosphere with something like thistle seed or cotton fiber.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

"a_plutonium" wrote in
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Subject: Pinatubo for a cool summer of 1992-3, Mayon volcano for a cool
summer 2007??? From: "a_plutonium"
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology,sci.environment,sci.physics

Get back in killfile creepo...

Years ago I posed a question whether there is a link between Global
Warming and increased activity for volcanoes. At that time I said no
link that I could discern.

I spyed this clip in Google:

--- quoting ---
1. Mayon and others acting weird at the same time 'It's normal
to be abnormal.'-Phivolcs Open this result in new window
The Manila Times - Aug 08 7:39 AM
FOUR of the country's six deadliest volcanos are behaving
strangely, Mayon Volcano erupting in late July and about to have a big
bang today or tomorrow, Bulusan and Kanlaon belting out ash clouds and
Taal on the throes of erupting-all at the same time.

--- end quoting ---

I remember watching a PBS show on the Badlands of Oregon and Washington
state where an ancient lake in Montana was formed from plug ice and
then this plug ice cracks all at once due to the physics and chemistry
of super-cooled-ice. In other words, due to a physics and chemistry
feature of ice, can you have a Megaflood. If it were not for such a
property of supercooled ice, you would not have such Megafloods.

So I am looking for some link between Global Warming and increased
volcano activity. In Global Warming we increase world water by the
melting to the artics and ice all over the globe. But can an increase
in ocean water activate more volcanic activity? I doubt it, or I am
skeptical of such a big influence.

Instead, like the tiny thing of the physics of supercooled ice for
causing Megafloods, is there such a tiny thing of physics or chemistry,
that Global Warming can activate more volcanoes? I doubt it would be
the extra heat on the surface of Earth.

But what about the changes in the magnetic field of earth due to Global
Warming. The reversal of the poles or migration of the magnetic poles.
Could Global Warming affect magnetic pole migration which in turn
increases volcanic activity? That sounds plausible, but I see no direct
link. Until I see a link, I must abide with the idea that Global
Warming and Volcanoes are for the most part, independent processes.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

"a_plutonium" wrote in
oups.com:
So I am looking for some link between Global Warming and increased
volcano activity. In Global Warming we increase world water by the
melting to the artics and ice all over the globe. But can an increase
in ocean water activate more volcanic activity? I doubt it, or I am
skeptical of such a big influence.

It turns out changes in sea level can affect volanos to some extent due to
the changed mass distribution. There are even a few volcanoes that are so
sensitive that you can see a correlation between their eruptions and local
weather (air pressure). However those are the exeptions so I doubt there
will be much of an impact from global warming.

But what about the changes in the magnetic field of earth due to Global
Warming. The reversal of the poles or migration of the magnetic poles.
Could Global Warming affect magnetic pole migration which in turn
increases volcanic activity? That sounds plausible, but I see no direct
link. Until I see a link, I must abide with the idea that Global
Warming and Volcanoes are for the most part, independent processes.

The magnetic field is generated far down in the Earth, and I see no way it
could be affected by global warming on the surface.

Thomas Palm wrote:

"a_plutonium" wrote in
oups.com:
So I am looking for some link between Global Warming and increased
volcano activity. In Global Warming we increase world water by the
melting to the artics and ice all over the globe. But can an increase
in ocean water activate more volcanic activity? I doubt it, or I am
skeptical of such a big influence.

It turns out changes in sea level can affect volanos to some extent due to
the changed mass distribution. There are even a few volcanoes that are so
sensitive that you can see a correlation between their eruptions and local
weather (air pressure). However those are the exeptions so I doubt there
will be much of an impact from global warming.

Neat. Of course, in retrospect, atmospheric pressure and the
distribution of the weight of sea water could have some effect on
expression of magma at the surface, particularly when the system is
fine tuned, like one of those diving sphere thermometers. I wouldn't
have thought of that, and simply dismissed the entire idea as daft.
Only 95.7% daft -- how narrow minded of me. :-)

But what about the changes in the magnetic field of earth due to Global
Warming. The reversal of the poles or migration of the magnetic poles.
Could Global Warming affect magnetic pole migration which in turn
increases volcanic activity? That sounds plausible, but I see no direct
link.

Hmm... why would it sound plausible if there is no obvious link?

Until I see a link, I must abide with the idea that Global
Warming and Volcanoes are for the most part, independent processes.

That may be the most sensible thing you have written in 10 years.

The magnetic field is generated far down in the Earth, and I see no
way it
could be affected by global warming on the surface.

That's something I've never investigated. It sounds plausible (pot
calls kettle black) on the surface -- there's a lot of iron down there,
and you've got some differential heating and some spinning and some
tidal effects and .... viola! Out pops a current!

Actually, it doesn't sound all that plausible.

Thomas Palm wrote:
"a_plutonium" wrote in
oups.com:
So I am looking for some link between Global Warming and increased
volcano activity. In Global Warming we increase world water by the
melting to the artics and ice all over the globe. But can an increase
in ocean water activate more volcanic activity? I doubt it, or I am
skeptical of such a big influence.

It turns out changes in sea level can affect volanos to some extent due to
the changed mass distribution. There are even a few volcanoes that are so
sensitive that you can see a correlation between their eruptions and local
weather (air pressure). However those are the exeptions so I doubt there
will be much of an impact from global warming.

I did not know some are that sensitive.


But what about the changes in the magnetic field of earth due to Global
Warming. The reversal of the poles or migration of the magnetic poles.
Could Global Warming affect magnetic pole migration which in turn
increases volcanic activity? That sounds plausible, but I see no direct
link. Until I see a link, I must abide with the idea that Global
Warming and Volcanoes are for the most part, independent processes.

The magnetic field is generated far down in the Earth, and I see no way it
could be affected by global warming on the surface.

Neither did I. However, I did not think much about it, but as volcanic
activity is increasing the world over, I must delve into this
possibility fully.

I wonder if lightning is a direct link between Global Warming and
Volcanoes.

Could it be that lightning bolts and lightning flashes increases as
Global Warming increases? Has any measured whether lightning has been
increasing in the past century? And does increase in carbon dioxide in
the atmosphere not only increase temperature but increases the
formation of lightning bolts?

And lightning would then discharge into the ground and affect Earth's
magnetic field. The Pole reversal of Earth is not well understood.
Perhaps lightning discharges from thunderstorms plays a key role in
where magnetic poles are.

So, now, let me try to draw a hypothetical linkage between Global
Warming and the increase in volcanic activity. As the Earth's
atmosphere increases in carbon dioxide, lightning bolts and lightning
flashes increase and where these lightning bolts are discharged into
the ground re-arranges the magma flow in Earth's mantle and core and
rearranges the magnetic poles. So increase in carbon dioxide increases
lightning bolts which rearranges magma and affects volcanic activity.

So is there any evidence of increasing lightning activity the world
over for the past 100 years?

Also, we can study planets like Venus which has volcanic activity, and
may or may not have lightning bolts. Or perhaps Europa or other astro
bodies.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

"Edward Green" wrote in
ups.com:

Thomas Palm wrote:

That's something I've never investigated. It sounds plausible (pot
calls kettle black) on the surface -- there's a lot of iron down
there, and you've got some differential heating and some spinning and
some tidal effects and .... viola! Out pops a current!

Actually, it doesn't sound all that plausible.

Do I misunderstand you? You make a fair description of how the Earth's
dynamo generates the magnetic field, so why do you then claim it doesn't
sound plausible?

"a_plutonium" wrote in
oups.com:


Thomas Palm wrote:

The magnetic field is generated far down in the Earth, and I see no
way it could be affected by global warming on the surface.

Neither did I. However, I did not think much about it, but as volcanic
activity is increasing the world over, I must delve into this
possibility fully.

I wonder if lightning is a direct link between Global Warming and
Volcanoes.

Volcanos are random processes and there will be fluctuations in the number
of eruptions. I don't think you can say there is a connection with global
warming, even if raising sea levels could at least in principle cause extra
eruptions (and earthquakes).

Could it be that lightning bolts and lightning flashes increases as
Global Warming increases? Has any measured whether lightning has been
increasing in the past century? And does increase in carbon dioxide in
the atmosphere not only increase temperature but increases the
formation of lightning bolts?

And lightning would then discharge into the ground and affect Earth's
magnetic field.

Again, effects on the surface won't change the magnetic field that is
generated deep in the floating outer core of the Earth.

Thomas Palm wrote:
"a_plutonium" wrote in
oups.com:


Thomas Palm wrote:

The magnetic field is generated far down in the Earth, and I see no
way it could be affected by global warming on the surface.

Neither did I. However, I did not think much about it, but as volcanic
activity is increasing the world over, I must delve into this
possibility fully.

I wonder if lightning is a direct link between Global Warming and
Volcanoes.

Volcanos are random processes and there will be fluctuations in the number
of eruptions. I don't think you can say there is a connection with global
warming, even if raising sea levels could at least in principle cause extra
eruptions (and earthquakes).

Could it be that lightning bolts and lightning flashes increases as
Global Warming increases? Has any measured whether lightning has been
increasing in the past century? And does increase in carbon dioxide in
the atmosphere not only increase temperature but increases the
formation of lightning bolts?

And lightning would then discharge into the ground and affect Earth's
magnetic field.

Again, effects on the surface won't change the magnetic field that is
generated deep in the floating outer core of the Earth.

But electricity and magnetism affect surfaces more than they affect
interiors-- the Faraday cage effect. And current flows on the surface.
So this my be important for the Earth's core and surface.

Does anyone know if lightning has been increasing in frequency
worldwide for the past 100 years or whether it has been decreasing, or
stayed relatively the same amount? One way to evaluate this question is
to take a test plot such as a 100 km circle of Florida and whether
lightning frequency has changed over time.

We definitely know temperatures have increased in the past 100 years
due to global warming. And we definitely can say volcano eruptions have
been steadily increasing during the past 100 years. But whether
lightning has increased, decreased or stayed fairly constant is unknown
to me.

If I can find some data that correlates either an increase or decrease
in lightning and correlates with rising temperatures and rising volcano
activity, then I may have found a direct link between global warming
and a future of increasing volcanic activity.

P.S. how would the above make sense over long geological time? It makes
sense in that Earth is so well protective of life that whenever one
important parameter gets to far out of control like temperature then
another parameter such as lightning will trigger more volcanoes to spew
sulfur dioxide which cools Earth. Life has been on Earth for almost 5
billion years and if Earth were not resilient and flexible, then life
would have been probably snuffed out long ago, but instead it has been
on Earth for almost 5 billion years. So the fact that life on Earth has
existed for so long is testimony that whenever one parameter gets too
far out of line, another parameter pops up to level it off and realign
the entire system. (Note: this is not a Gaia explanation, but an
explanation that our planet is in a equilibrium state of its important
parameters and life on planets to live for 5 billion years require such
an equilibrium system)

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

And let me record what I have noticed in my region of the country
regards lightning. Since moving here to South Dakota and living here
for 7 years now, every year has been less and less lightning. But that
is mostly due to the fact that every year seems to have less rainfall
than previous years.

So I would be interested in knowing whether the states that are
increasing in rainfall and the coastal regions where hurricanes occur,
have been increasing in lightning?

How would lightning affect volcanic frequency of eruptions? My guess is
that the energy involved in lightning discharges is enormous energy
that transforms into the movement of magma in the mantle and relates to
the direction of movement of plate tectonics. Most movement of plate
tectonics is near the equator and most volcanoes are near the equator.
Most lightning is near the equator.

So as the lightning bolt discharges into the ground it is transformed
into either kinetic energy of moving magma and plate tectonic movement
or is stored as potential energy of the magma that forms the Earth's
magnetic field.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies