"Lloyd Parker" wrote in message


In article lgate.org,
"Brad Guth" wrote:
But Earth simply didn't have that nearby moon of ours prior to 10,500 BC


La-la land again. You really do need your meds refilled. Some pharma
companies give away drugs if you can't afford them.

What's "la-la" about the regular laws of physics, and of orbital
mechanics?

What's "la-la" about the real history of recorded science that has no
apparent record of any moon prior to 10,500 BC, and/or by way of many
standards of somewhat more recent times?

Got any old moon god/goddess for us?

Got a moon depiction or any other scientific reasoning besides the
mainstream conjectures that's in support of our environment having that
moon since the beginning?
-
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In order to honestly discuss the geological and thus physiological
impact of our moon having added it's trauma plus subsequent mascon/tidal
forces of global warming since the last ice age, one obviously has to
put up with the continual intellectual flak of incest mutations that's
offered by way of this anti-think-tank of a naysay Usenet from hell.

So be it; It's a few nasty Jews and the Pope that's against all the rest
of us village idiots and infidels.

MANKIND IS THE LOWEST FORM OF INTELLIGENCE IN THE UNIVERSE !!!
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ~~
http://www.gatago.com/fr/soc/economie/13500791.html
"and that Humanity is a complete embarrassment to all the superior
Beings all the way to Sirius ß", and I's say then some.

Whereas I'd have to agree that it's highly unlikely there is a more dumb
and dumber nor more lethal species of systematically dumbfounded
intelligence to be found within the entire universe, than right here on
good old Earth.

If Earth is supposedly of 4.5 billion and the universe is of 14 billions
(not including whatever cosmic cycles, such as the 225 million year
galactic clock of our very own Milky Way),

http://www.edpsciences.org/papers/aa...R20030959.html
"The last orbit of the observed stars in their motion around the
Galactic Centre (GC). Each orbit takes about 225 million years. The
movie shows that the stars have travelled extensively in the disk of the
Milky Way before converging into the small volume where we observe them
today. The Sun is marked by a blue dot; its orbit by the white curve."

in which case there's a good 10 billion of years for other civilizations
of higher evolved and/or of whatever ET/4H intelligently designed
species to have become more intellectually and scientifically advanced
than that of our highly bigoted pile of rocks that'll obviously believe
in anything currently perpetrated by their social/religious cultism,
rather than accepting the geological and biological truth that's been
before their own dumbfounded eyes, banishing the likes of Ed Conrad, Sir
Jean-Paul Turcaud and myself as though allowing yet another human
sacrifice to their pagan god(s) is their one and only alternative. No
wonder the likes of even a perfectly good jewboy like Jesus Christ got
put on a stick at the request of their own kind, and that similar
Cathars got exterminated at the bloody hands of a Pope. So where's the
outer limit as to whatever's next.

All I've seen within Usenet and of whatever's getting mainstream
published and thereby institutionally promoted are the boat loads of the
socially cultivated and religiously molded souls of bigotry, arrogance
and above all else is good old reliable greed and/or the power taken by
those intent upon controlling all that's possible, and that obviously
has to include a good portions of the atheistic born-again collectives
of pagan souls having made their own rules and conditional laws in order
to suit their infomercial history and infomercial science, whereas I've
seen more than my fair share of such perpetrators as liars that only
beget other lies upon lies in order to suit their naysayism and of their
ulterior motives and hidden agendas, whereas no amount of collateral
damage and carnage upon the innocent seems unworthy of accomplishing
their ultimate quest, and we talking of where remorse isn't even the
slightest part of their bible/koran.

Such intellectual fornacating as based upon whatever suits their
mainstream status quo is about all that actually matters. For others
and myself to be suggesting that the regular laws of physics and of the
best available science having anything to do with an icy proto-moon
giving Earth a sucker punch as of roughly 9,706 BC (11,700 years ago),
that's suggesting all of geological hell broke lose upon Earth shortly
thereafter, and that for a good century of most life having to recover
from that horrific trauma of such an icy moon having impacted Earth, as
would be expected is obviously asking too much from such a closed
mindset that's too dumbfounded to save their own butts and much less
their own world from their own kind.

Suggesting any notions that an icy proto-moon as having provided an
ideal interstellar transporter on behalf ET/panspermia, such as that of
having accommodated the Dropas/Dzopas, is clearly outside of Usenet's
outer limits of what can even get openly discussed as an honest what-if.

~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ~~ isn't even
representing the tip of the intellectual incest iceberg of most
terrestrial life as we know it, especially of that within this naysay
Usenet of all that's infomercial and that which otherwise sucks and
blows.
-
Brad Guth


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"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
oups.com

EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased

I also agree with your "HUGE MELTED LAKE IN BEAUFORT SEA!" as an ongoing
fiasco as authored by Roger Coppock, whereas this one-time per year
worth of 1.175e17 Joules being like "28 million tons of TNT set to
blast" is certainly worth our keeping our global warming eye upon, and
hoping the hell that this thermal ticking bomb is going to get somewhat
evenly spread out over time and area rather than concentrated anywhere
near to wherever I happen to be. Too bad that our global albedo is also
getting shot down the nearest space-toilet, as that's only adding
unavoidable insult to further solar influx injury.

What do you folks think about the 0.01% of 2e20 joules that's
mascon/tidal contributed into our humanly polluted environment, as of
every second of each and every day? (I believe that's only 39 j/m2, or
0.1% becomes worth 390 j/m2, times 31.536e6 seconds/year seems to offer
an even much larger global warming bang)

In order to honestly discuss the ongoing planetology of whatever's true
geological science and thereby having an appreciation as to the
physiological impact worth of our moon having somewhat recently added
it's arrival trauma plus a few spare teratonnes worth of it's salty ice,
and the subsequent mascon/tidal forces plus otherwise having been global
warming us ever since the last ice age, one obviously has to put up with
the continual mainstream gauntlet of intellectual naysayism flak, as
offered by the incest mutations that's deeply invested into this
anti-think-tank of a naysay Usenet from their MI/NSA and 'Skull and
Bones' infomercial hell. Of course anyone on the side of common reason
and perfectly deductive truth gets by default marked as being insane, or
that of a terrorist hiding the likes of WMD and Usama bin Laden.

So be it; It's obviously a few nasty Jews that are trying their best at
being bigger than life, plus the Pope that's against all the rest of us
village idiots and infidels that are acting suspiciously Cathar like.

MANKIND IS THE LOWEST FORM OF INTELLIGENCE IN THE UNIVERSE !!!
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ~~
http://www.gatago.com/fr/soc/economie/13500791.html
"and that Humanity is a complete embarrassment to all the superior
Beings all the way to Sirius ß", and I'd have to say at least and then
some.

I'd also have to agree with Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud that it's highly
unlikely there's a more dumb and dumber nor more lethal species of
systematically dumbfounded intelligence to be found within the entire
universe, than right here on good old Earth.

If Earth is supposedly of 4.5 billion and the universe is of 14 billions
(going off in all directions and that's not even including whatever
cosmic cycles, such as the 225 million year galactic clock of our very
own Milky Way).

http://www.edpsciences.org/papers/aa...R20030959.html
"The last orbit of the observed stars in their motion around the
Galactic Centre (GC). Each orbit takes about 225 million years. The
movie shows that the stars have travelled extensively in the disk of the
Milky Way before converging into the small volume where we observe them
today. The Sun is marked by a blue dot; its orbit by the white curve."

In which case there's a good 10 billion of years for other civilizations
of higher evolved species and/or of whatever ET/4H intelligently
designed hybrid species having become more intellectually and
scientifically advanced than that of our highly bigoted pile of DNA
crapolla that's as dumb as rocks that'll obviously believe in anything
currently perpetrated by their social/religious cultism, rather than
accepting the geological and biological truth that's been before their
own dumbfounded eyes, banishing the likes of Ed Conrad, Sir Jean-Paul
Turcaud and myself as though allowing yet another human sacrifice to
their pagan god(s) is but their one and only alternative. No wonder the
likes of even a perfectly good jewboy like Jesus Christ got put on a
stick at the request of their own kind, and that similar Cathars got
summarily exterminated at the bloody hands of a highly bigoted and
obviously greedy Pope. So where's their outer limit as to whatever's
next on their agenda.

All I've seen within Usenet and of whatever's getting mainstream
published and thereby having been institutionally promoted are the boat
loads of these socially cultivated and religiously molded souls of
bigotry, arrogance and above all else is good old reliable greed and/or
the power taken by those intent upon controlling all that's possible,
and that obviously has to include a good portion of the atheistic
born-again collectives of pagan souls having made their own rules of war
and of their conditional laws in order to suit their infomercial history
and infomercial science, whereas I've seen more than my fair share of
such perpetrators as liars that only beget other lies upon lies in order
to suit their naysayism and of their ulterior motives and hidden
agendas, whereas no amount of collateral damage and carnage upon the
innocent seems unworthy of accomplishing their ultimate quest, and I
believe we're talking of where remorse isn't even the slightest part of
their bible/koran.

Such intellectual fornacating as based upon whatever suits their
mainstream status quo is about all that actually matters. For others
and myself to be suggesting that the regular laws of physics and of the
best available science having anything to do with an icy proto-moon
giving Earth a sucker punch as of roughly 9,706 BC (11,700 years ago),
that's suggesting all of geological hell broke lose upon Earth shortly
thereafter, and that for a good century of most life having to recover
from that horrific trauma of such an icy moon having impacted Earth, as
would be expected is obviously asking too much from such a closed
mindset that's too dumbfounded to save their own butts and much less
their own world from their own kind.

Suggesting any notions that an icy proto-moon as having provided an
ideal interstellar transporter on behalf ET/panspermia, such as that of
having accommodated the Dropas/Dzopas, is clearly outside of Usenet's
outer limits of what can even get openly discussed as an honest what-if.

~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ~~ isn't even
representing the tip of the intellectual incest iceberg of most
terrestrial life as we know it, especially of that within this naysay
Usenet of all that's infomercial and that which otherwise sucks and
blows.
-
Brad Guth


--
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Amazing and/or impressive, in that we're seeing the very last thaw from
the very last of those horrific ice ages.

We seem to have obtained a rather nifty mascon of a moon as of the last
ice age. Too bad that it's unavoidably sharing off a little too much of
it's orbital tidal energy into our frail and extra polluted environment
that should have been getting itself rather nicely iced down by this
time.

I for one certainly hope that these all-knowing Usenet naysayers and of
their ungodly born-again denial, that's in the nearest space-toilet of
denial about nearly everything under their passive sun, are right about
this badly polluted Earth being the one and only life sustaining planet
in the entire Universe, or at least hosting the most advanced species
that'll kick serious ET butt, as for otherwise all we need is for the
likes of SETI/OSETI or some other mission/probe to uncover yet another
mentally sick and perverted world of mostly cult like paganism that's
without a stitch of remorse, all because it's so absolutely chuck full
of the sorts of our human incest spawn and cultivated bigotry, arrogance
and insurmountable greed, exactly like existing right here in good old
River City that's upon this mother Earth, along with her extremely
impressive mascon of such a nearby global warming moon that's also
remaining as infomercial cloak and dagger taboo/nondisclosure until each
of them hocus-pocus NASA/Apollo cows come home. (I'm sorry; was any of
that getting too far over your head?)

Besides what this typically anti-think-tank of Usenet can't seem to
manage without trashing their way through a perfectly good topic such as
"Earth w/o Magnetosphere, w/o Moon" or that of "Global Warmed to Death
via moon" without blowing another one of their infomercial gaskets,
whereas the rather unfortunate Venus EXPRESS forum of NASA's very own
uplink.space.com cesspool is still operating as the pathetic infomercial
and/or damage-control joke that it is, of a few Usenet like cult/insider
members that'll stalk, bash and/or banish whomever gets in their way
(acting exactly like GW Bush, Dick Cheney and Henry Kissinger combined,
especially if you happen to be Muslim or in any pro-Islamic other way).

http://uplink.space.com/showflat.php...&fpart=10&vc=1
Too bad that we/NASA were not any part of ESA's extremely cost effective
VIRTIS mission.

This BBC report is actually offering us a damn good bit of news if it's
representing that their previously stuck PFS instrument is back in
action.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6041570.stm
"scientists are happy to report that all the instruments are in good
working order and beaming back massive amounts of data."

If all continues to go well, from here on out is where David Grinspoon,
FW Taylor and hopefully the more open and free to roam about the
universe mindset likes of John Ackerman are going to seriously kick a
few of our sorry planetology butts that have been focused upon global
warming, rather than the truth.

The geothermally active nature of Venus is simply chuck full of nifty
but otherwise good elements, as having been spewing off more of such as
spare renewable energy than anything our probes and previous mindsets
have previously encountered. Of course any halfwhit scientist worth
their salt already knew that Venus was and still is extremely alive and
as such having been kicking out all sorts of nifty geothermal energy,
plus having been contributing those somewhat nasty vapors as though that
planet was a good billion years less old than Earth (just like we've
been informed by so many others before that weren't being givben a gram
of credit because they obviously were's sufficiently Jewish).

Having an open mindset which is based entirely upon the regular laws of
physics, and thereby receptive as to the best available science, is
going to be deductively formulating those new and improved
interpretations from all those new and improved numbers, and of the
images such numbers represent are going to get published along with a
more open or wider perspective as to what's possible.

Therefore being unlike this Usenet of mainstream disinformation and
infomercial-science that's so badly skewed towards their past
associations, and as a result having sucked away at the truth and blown
out nothing but their infomercial butt loads of lies upon lies in order
to fortify upon their status quo ruse of their perpetrated cold-war
century, whereas instead of all the usual hocus-pocus is where this
Venus EXPRESS (VIRTIS) mission has been offering the ongoing proof
positive that many others and myself have been sufficiently right all
along, about Venus being an active geothermal cauldron of newish
planetology, with few shortages of anything that known technology
couldn't manage to deal with.

ESA's VIRTIS is perhaps a bit slow at sharing, but then we haven't been
willing to share all that much of the truth with regards to our moon or
even that of the previous missions which our NASA conducted of Venus.
The involvement of MI/NSA~CIA and those pesky exclusions of evidence
that didn't fit the mold is at least a couple of good reasons why ESA
accomplished this task without our supposed help.

Even our MESSENGER mission has been simply hocus-pocus about having
avoided sharing any pictures of the Earth with moon, or having even
accommodated an honest side by side composite look-see whereas each
obtained image was recorded at the exact same exposure. By way of using
the bottom 5% of their available CCD/DR capability is how our MESSENGER
team managed to obtain such an unusually naked and somewhat pastel image
of Earth, and w/o moon to boot. Silly game, isn't it.
~
Life upon Venus; township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus my updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm


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I wouldn't bet that the Earth has seen its last ice age. Man may have seen
his last one, but there is a good chance there will be another major
continental glaciation in the next 20,000 years.

So don't buy that waterfront property just yet.

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
news:8bc732ab73c6ada6441b382a60ab4f38.49644@mygate .mailgate.org...
Amazing and/or impressive, in that we're seeing the very last thaw from
the very last of those horrific ice ages.

We seem to have obtained a rather nifty mascon of a moon as of the last
ice age. Too bad that it's unavoidably sharing off a little too much of
it's orbital tidal energy into our frail and extra polluted environment
that should have been getting itself rather nicely iced down by this
time.

I for one certainly hope that these all-knowing Usenet naysayers and of
their ungodly born-again denial, that's in the nearest space-toilet of
denial about nearly everything under their passive sun, are right about
this badly polluted Earth being the one and only life sustaining planet
in the entire Universe, or at least hosting the most advanced species
that'll kick serious ET butt, as for otherwise all we need is for the
likes of SETI/OSETI or some other mission/probe to uncover yet another
mentally sick and perverted world of mostly cult like paganism that's
without a stitch of remorse, all because it's so absolutely chuck full
of the sorts of our human incest spawn and cultivated bigotry, arrogance
and insurmountable greed, exactly like existing right here in good old
River City that's upon this mother Earth, along with her extremely
impressive mascon of such a nearby global warming moon that's also
remaining as infomercial cloak and dagger taboo/nondisclosure until each
of them hocus-pocus NASA/Apollo cows come home. (I'm sorry; was any of
that getting too far over your head?)

Besides what this typically anti-think-tank of Usenet can't seem to
manage without trashing their way through a perfectly good topic such as
"Earth w/o Magnetosphere, w/o Moon" or that of "Global Warmed to Death
via moon" without blowing another one of their infomercial gaskets,
whereas the rather unfortunate Venus EXPRESS forum of NASA's very own
uplink.space.com cesspool is still operating as the pathetic infomercial
and/or damage-control joke that it is, of a few Usenet like cult/insider
members that'll stalk, bash and/or banish whomever gets in their way
(acting exactly like GW Bush, Dick Cheney and Henry Kissinger combined,
especially if you happen to be Muslim or in any pro-Islamic other way).


http://uplink.space.com/showflat.php...&fpart=10&vc=1
Too bad that we/NASA were not any part of ESA's extremely cost effective
VIRTIS mission.

This BBC report is actually offering us a damn good bit of news if it's
representing that their previously stuck PFS instrument is back in
action.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6041570.stm
"scientists are happy to report that all the instruments are in good
working order and beaming back massive amounts of data."

If all continues to go well, from here on out is where David Grinspoon,
FW Taylor and hopefully the more open and free to roam about the
universe mindset likes of John Ackerman are going to seriously kick a
few of our sorry planetology butts that have been focused upon global
warming, rather than the truth.

The geothermally active nature of Venus is simply chuck full of nifty
but otherwise good elements, as having been spewing off more of such as
spare renewable energy than anything our probes and previous mindsets
have previously encountered. Of course any halfwhit scientist worth
their salt already knew that Venus was and still is extremely alive and
as such having been kicking out all sorts of nifty geothermal energy,
plus having been contributing those somewhat nasty vapors as though that
planet was a good billion years less old than Earth (just like we've
been informed by so many others before that weren't being givben a gram
of credit because they obviously were's sufficiently Jewish).

Having an open mindset which is based entirely upon the regular laws of
physics, and thereby receptive as to the best available science, is
going to be deductively formulating those new and improved
interpretations from all those new and improved numbers, and of the
images such numbers represent are going to get published along with a
more open or wider perspective as to what's possible.

Therefore being unlike this Usenet of mainstream disinformation and
infomercial-science that's so badly skewed towards their past
associations, and as a result having sucked away at the truth and blown
out nothing but their infomercial butt loads of lies upon lies in order
to fortify upon their status quo ruse of their perpetrated cold-war
century, whereas instead of all the usual hocus-pocus is where this
Venus EXPRESS (VIRTIS) mission has been offering the ongoing proof
positive that many others and myself have been sufficiently right all
along, about Venus being an active geothermal cauldron of newish
planetology, with few shortages of anything that known technology
couldn't manage to deal with.

ESA's VIRTIS is perhaps a bit slow at sharing, but then we haven't been
willing to share all that much of the truth with regards to our moon or
even that of the previous missions which our NASA conducted of Venus.
The involvement of MI/NSA~CIA and those pesky exclusions of evidence
that didn't fit the mold is at least a couple of good reasons why ESA
accomplished this task without our supposed help.

Even our MESSENGER mission has been simply hocus-pocus about having
avoided sharing any pictures of the Earth with moon, or having even
accommodated an honest side by side composite look-see whereas each
obtained image was recorded at the exact same exposure. By way of using
the bottom 5% of their available CCD/DR capability is how our MESSENGER
team managed to obtain such an unusually naked and somewhat pastel image
of Earth, and w/o moon to boot. Silly game, isn't it.
~
Life upon Venus; township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus my updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm


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"Question Quigley" wrote in message
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I wouldn't bet that the Earth has seen its last ice age. Man may have seen
his last one, but there is a good chance there will be another major
continental glaciation in the next 20,000 years.

So don't buy that waterfront property just yet.

No chance in hell of ever getting iced again, not even after we've run
ourselves entirely out of fossil and yellowcake fuel.

Got that big old physically dark and nasty moon as of something prior to
the last ice age? (obviously not)

How much of the moon's 2e20 joules is getting converted into terrestrial
tidal driven heat?

How much energy is the moon's reflected and secondary emitted IR and FIR
worth these days?
-
Brad Guth


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"Question Quigley" wrote in message
news:yS7Yg.192$kG5.64@trndny07

I wouldn't bet that the Earth has seen its last ice age. Man may have seen
his last one, but there is a good chance there will be another major
continental glaciation in the next 20,000 years.

How is that going to happen as we get so much closer to the Sirius
star/solar system, and while we still have that mascon of a tidal
warming moon to deal with, not to mention humanity having been doing all
that it can in order to add as much soot, CO2 plus NOx as possible to
our global environment of deeper though less salty oceans that'll be
accommodating mostly jellyfish because the O2 levels are no longer going
to be 25% of what's normal?
-
Brad Guth


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