EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased

Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased


I find it amusing that these "scientists" show a 1.3 million year proxy

temperature graph and end the last 8th of the graph with a 135 year
actual temperature reading.

Ahhh, James Hanson.......what a nut!


Oh and these "sciencetists" haven't taken the gloves off, they have
just lost thier objectivity! Which makes them nothing better than....
lets say.... you!

wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Abstract:
Global surface temperature has increased

wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Abstract:
Global surface temperature has increased

wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased


I find it amusing that these "scientists" show a 1.3 million year proxy

temperature graph and end the last 8th of the graph with a 135 year
actual temperature reading.

"The paleoclimate SST, based on Mg content of foraminifera
shells, provides accuracy to
1°C (29). Thus we cannot be sure that
we have precisely aligned the paleo and modern temperature scales.
Accepting paleo and modern temperatures at face value implies a
WEP 1870 SST in the middle of its Holocene range. Shifting the
scale to align the 1870 SST with the lowest Holocene value raises
the paleo curve by
0.5°C. Even in that case, the 2001-2005 WEP
SST is at least as great as any Holocene proxy temperature at that
location. Coarse temporal resolution of the Holocene data,
1,000
years, may mask brief warmer excursions, but cores with higher
resolution (29) suggest that peak Holocene WEP SSTs were not
more than
1°C warmer than in the late Holocene, before modern
warming. It seems safe to assume that the SST will not decline this
century, given continued increases of GHGs, so in a practical sense
the WEP temperature is at or near its highest level in the Holocene.
Fig. 5, including WEP data for the past 1.35 million years, shows
that the current WEP SST is within
1°C of the warmest interglacials
in that period."

Perhaps you can take this opportunity to provide the expert peer review
of this study. Remember, you don't have to replicate the data!

[snip]

Tracy P. Hamilton

"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
oups.com...
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased

"This evidence implies that we are getting close to dangerous levels of
human-made pollution," Hansen said in a statement. "If further global
warming reaches 2 or 3 degrees Celsius, we will likely see changes that make
Earth a different planet than the one we know. The last time it was that
warm was in the middle Pliocene, about 3 million years ago, when sea level
was estimated to have been about 25 meters (80 feet) higher than today,"
Hansen said.

So, if the planet wasn't getting warmer, would it be getting cooler?
Wouldn't that also make it a "different planet than the one we know?" Or
does Hansen believe that the climate would just stay the same forever, if we
would just stop adding greenhouse gases? If so, has he not looked at his
own charts?

I think that's what bugs me the most about people like Hansen. If the
global temperature was falling instead of rising, he would still be crying
about how we were sliding into a new ice age, and the government was doing
nothing to stop it.

El Guapo wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
oups.com...
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased

"This evidence implies that we are getting close to dangerous levels of
human-made pollution," Hansen said in a statement. "If further global
warming reaches 2 or 3 degrees Celsius, we will likely see changes that
make Earth a different planet than the one we know. The last time it was
that warm was in the middle Pliocene, about 3 million years ago, when
sea level was estimated to have been about 25 meters (80 feet) higher
than today," Hansen said.

So, if the planet wasn't getting warmer, would it be getting cooler?
Wouldn't that also make it a "different planet than the one we know?"
Or does Hansen believe that the climate would just stay the same
forever, if we would just stop adding greenhouse gases? If so, has he
not looked at his own charts?

You are imagining an ice age that is no longer going to happen. Some of
us like to stick with reality, the hydrocarbon combustion, the warming.

I think that's what bugs me the most about people like Hansen. If the
global temperature was falling instead of rising, he would still be
crying about how we were sliding into a new ice age, and the government
was doing nothing to stop it.

The government and corporations have already stopped the ice age.

That little reality thing, remember? Reality on Earth is like a powered
rocket with no inertial control. Inertial control is clearly possible.

Science is what makes inertial control possible. That's reality.

So, no, are you still having problems with reality?

http://cosmic.lifeform.org

"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote in message
...
El Guapo wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
oups.com...
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased

"This evidence implies that we are getting close to dangerous levels of
human-made pollution," Hansen said in a statement. "If further global
warming reaches 2 or 3 degrees Celsius, we will likely see changes that
make Earth a different planet than the one we know. The last time it was
that warm was in the middle Pliocene, about 3 million years ago, when sea
level was estimated to have been about 25 meters (80 feet) higher than
today," Hansen said.

So, if the planet wasn't getting warmer, would it be getting cooler?
Wouldn't that also make it a "different planet than the one we know?" Or
does Hansen believe that the climate would just stay the same forever, if
we would just stop adding greenhouse gases? If so, has he not looked at
his own charts?

You are imagining an ice age that is no longer going to happen. Some of us
like to stick with reality, the hydrocarbon combustion, the warming.

I think that's what bugs me the most about people like Hansen. If the
global temperature was falling instead of rising, he would still be
crying about how we were sliding into a new ice age, and the government
was doing nothing to stop it.

The government and corporations have already stopped the ice age.

That little reality thing, remember? Reality on Earth is like a powered
rocket with no inertial control. Inertial control is clearly possible.

Science is what makes inertial control possible. That's reality.

So, no, are you still having problems with reality?

http://cosmic.lifeform.org

Forget about global warming, it is time for the 10,000 year earth axis tilt,
the one that previously turned the Sahara into a desert from a lush tropical
rain forest. Just think, there were no greenhouse gasses from man then,
perhaps a little methane, but not much else. Just think what lies around
the next earth axis tilt? I guarantee it will make you forget all about
global warming.

What a wobbly planet we live on, , , ,

Cosmicbull****.com - where you go to obtain nothing of use, but will be
inspired by pure crap meant to frighten you into sending a check to the
nearest greenie organization.

SBC Yahoo wrote:
"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote in message
...
El Guapo wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
oups.com...
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased
"This evidence implies that we are getting close to dangerous levels of
human-made pollution," Hansen said in a statement. "If further global
warming reaches 2 or 3 degrees Celsius, we will likely see changes that
make Earth a different planet than the one we know. The last time it was
that warm was in the middle Pliocene, about 3 million years ago, when sea
level was estimated to have been about 25 meters (80 feet) higher than
today," Hansen said.

So, if the planet wasn't getting warmer, would it be getting cooler?
Wouldn't that also make it a "different planet than the one we know?" Or
does Hansen believe that the climate would just stay the same forever, if
we would just stop adding greenhouse gases? If so, has he not looked at
his own charts?
You are imagining an ice age that is no longer going to happen. Some of us
like to stick with reality, the hydrocarbon combustion, the warming.

I think that's what bugs me the most about people like Hansen. If the
global temperature was falling instead of rising, he would still be
crying about how we were sliding into a new ice age, and the government
was doing nothing to stop it.
The government and corporations have already stopped the ice age.

That little reality thing, remember? Reality on Earth is like a powered
rocket with no inertial control. Inertial control is clearly possible.

Science is what makes inertial control possible. That's reality.

So, no, are you still having problems with reality?

http://cosmic.lifeform.org

Forget about global warming

plonk

Tracy P. Hamilton wrote:
wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased


I find it amusing that these "scientists" show a 1.3 million year proxy

temperature graph and end the last 8th of the graph with a 135 year
actual temperature reading.

"The paleoclimate SST, based on Mg content of foraminifera
shells, provides accuracy to
1°C (29). Thus we cannot be sure that
we have precisely aligned the paleo and modern temperature scales.
Accepting paleo and modern temperatures at face value implies a
WEP 1870 SST in the middle of its Holocene range. Shifting the
scale to align the 1870 SST with the lowest Holocene value raises
the paleo curve by
0.5°C. Even in that case, the 2001-2005 WEP
SST is at least as great as any Holocene proxy temperature at that
location. Coarse temporal resolution of the Holocene data,
1,000
years, may mask brief warmer excursions, but cores with higher
resolution (29) suggest that peak Holocene WEP SSTs were not
more than
1°C warmer than in the late Holocene, before modern
warming. It seems safe to assume that the SST will not decline this
century, given continued increases of GHGs, so in a practical sense
the WEP temperature is at or near its highest level in the Holocene.
Fig. 5, including WEP data for the past 1.35 million years, shows
that the current WEP SST is within
1°C of the warmest interglacials
in that period."

Perhaps you can take this opportunity to provide the expert peer review
of this study. Remember, you don't have to replicate the data!

[snip]

Tracy P. Hamilton

Peer review that tripe? That would slide across my desk and into my
garbage can....

Comparing proxy to actual temperatures is only something you would do
Hamilton, along with that joke of a graph. Looks almost like Coppock
made it.