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"Fast Pat" wrote in
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Eric Swanson wrote:
In article . com,
says...


HR wrote:
"Al Bedo" wrote in message
...
Fast Pat wrote:

More weird weather... i.e. rapid climate change

Make that rapid weather change.


No, make that just a continuation of the mindless spewing of little
snippets of irrelevant local weather reports.

Then tell us the last time 9 inches of rain was measured within a
two-day period or less in Alaska during the month of October.

When was the last time a little snippet of irrelevant local weather
reporting like this was made?

"The National Weather Service reported that 9 inches of rain had
fallen in Seward between noon Sunday and 5 p.m. Monday. Tom Dang of
the National Weather Service said the low pressure system that caused
the storm moved in on the jet stream from the Aleutian Islands,
pulling in tropical moisture that had welled there. ... "Within a half
hour there were chunks of ice -- I can only assume from Exit Glacier
-- flowing down Exit Glacier Road," ...


Climate is the statistics of weather. That includes record events,
though the statistical significance of any one local event is small.
Larger scale regional events are more interesting...

There's an outbreak of cold Arctic air moving south from Canada at the
moment. Jet stream winds are from the north over the Midwest, at about
160 mph. The radar this morning showed sleet in Missouri and that storm
is moving eastward such that it is now sleeting in Kentucky. I expect
snow/sleet on my head here in western North Carolina later this
afternoon and tonight, even though the present temperature is about 52
F. Sorry, I don't know the records for this sort of mess, but winter
does seem to be a little early this year. Many trees are still green
and have their leaves, thus a mix of sleet and freezing rain would
result in considerable damage.

--
Eric Swanson --- E-mail address: e_swanson(at)skybest.com :-)
--------------------------------------------------------------


There is no such thing as "climate" anymore, only climate change. The
entire playing field for generating statitistics on weather events
undergoing rapid change.

Sleet in Missouri and Kentucky for this time of year has happened many
times since weather records began. 9 inches of rain in less than 48
hours during the second week of October near Seward Alaska probably
happened before but maybe not since the Eocene?


http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca_into...o_Alaska2.html

This is satellite imagery of remnants of Tropical Storm Bebinca moving into Alaska from the Pacific. It also
shows Bebinca and it's predecessor moving OUT of Alaska into CONUS.

If you want to see the origin of the weather in Kentucky you have to play back the satellite records to the
Philippines on October 2nd-4th, 2006.

Thus far we have viewed BEBINCA on Floater magnified View, NWPAC, and NEPAC views. To continue to
follow it requires going next to the WEUS and EAUS views and NATL.

Cloud masses don't spring into existence -- they form over time and are conspicuous objects from
Geostationary orbiting satellites. in 2006 NOAA opened up four geostationary satellites to public access.
Previous it was not possible to follow events across more than half the Northern Hemisphere from Africa to
Vietnam across the Atlantic and Pacific, and north to about Latitude 65 in mid-Alaska.

Since I am the only one collecting these ephemeral views I am the only one with the photographic record for
2006 of where every single storm came from and where it ended up.


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Ray Lopez ion wrote:
"Fast Pat" wrote in
oups.com:


Eric Swanson wrote:
In article . com,
says...


HR wrote:
"Al Bedo" wrote in message
...
Fast Pat wrote:

More weird weather... i.e. rapid climate change

Make that rapid weather change.

No, make that just a continuation of the mindless spewing of little
snippets of irrelevant local weather reports.

Then tell us the last time 9 inches of rain was measured within a
two-day period or less in Alaska during the month of October.

When was the last time a little snippet of irrelevant local weather
reporting like this was made?

"The National Weather Service reported that 9 inches of rain had
fallen in Seward between noon Sunday and 5 p.m. Monday. Tom Dang of
the National Weather Service said the low pressure system that caused
the storm moved in on the jet stream from the Aleutian Islands,
pulling in tropical moisture that had welled there. ... "Within a half
hour there were chunks of ice -- I can only assume from Exit Glacier
-- flowing down Exit Glacier Road," ...

Climate is the statistics of weather. That includes record events,
though the statistical significance of any one local event is small.
Larger scale regional events are more interesting...

There's an outbreak of cold Arctic air moving south from Canada at the
moment. Jet stream winds are from the north over the Midwest, at about
160 mph. The radar this morning showed sleet in Missouri and that storm
is moving eastward such that it is now sleeting in Kentucky. I expect
snow/sleet on my head here in western North Carolina later this
afternoon and tonight, even though the present temperature is about 52
F. Sorry, I don't know the records for this sort of mess, but winter
does seem to be a little early this year. Many trees are still green
and have their leaves, thus a mix of sleet and freezing rain would
result in considerable damage.

--
Eric Swanson --- E-mail address: e_swanson(at)skybest.com :-)
--------------------------------------------------------------


There is no such thing as "climate" anymore, only climate change. The
entire playing field for generating statitistics on weather events
undergoing rapid change.

Sleet in Missouri and Kentucky for this time of year has happened many
times since weather records began. 9 inches of rain in less than 48
hours during the second week of October near Seward Alaska probably
happened before but maybe not since the Eocene?


http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca_into...o_Alaska2.html

This is satellite imagery of remnants of Tropical Storm Bebinca moving into Alaska from the Pacific. It also
shows Bebinca and it's predecessor moving OUT of Alaska into CONUS.

If you want to see the origin of the weather in Kentucky you have to play back the satellite records to the
Philippines on October 2nd-4th, 2006.

Thus far we have viewed BEBINCA on Floater magnified View, NWPAC, and NEPAC views. To continue to
follow it requires going next to the WEUS and EAUS views and NATL.

Cloud masses don't spring into existence -- they form over time and are conspicuous objects from
Geostationary orbiting satellites. in 2006 NOAA opened up four geostationary satellites to public access.
Previous it was not possible to follow events across more than half the Northern Hemisphere from Africa to
Vietnam across the Atlantic and Pacific, and north to about Latitude 65 in mid-Alaska.

Since I am the only one collecting these ephemeral views I am the only one with the photographic record for
2006 of where every single storm came from and where it ended up.



Since you said:
.... Since I am ...,
you may want to check out and post your comments to article on THE
PINEAPPLE EXPRESS
at The Weather Channel blog site, Oct 12, at:
http://www.weather.com/blog/weather/?from=wxcenter_news

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Default Alaska in October: rain, mud, flooding and ice flows

"Fast Pat" wrote in
oups.com:


Ray Lopez ion wrote:
"Fast Pat" wrote in
oups.com:


Eric Swanson wrote:
In article . com,
says...


HR wrote:
"Al Bedo" wrote in message
...
Fast Pat wrote:

More weird weather... i.e. rapid climate change

Make that rapid weather change.

No, make that just a continuation of the mindless spewing of
little snippets of irrelevant local weather reports.

Then tell us the last time 9 inches of rain was measured within a
two-day period or less in Alaska during the month of October.

When was the last time a little snippet of irrelevant local weather
reporting like this was made?

"The National Weather Service reported that 9 inches of rain had
fallen in Seward between noon Sunday and 5 p.m. Monday. Tom Dang of
the National Weather Service said the low pressure system that
caused the storm moved in on the jet stream from the Aleutian
Islands, pulling in tropical moisture that had welled there. ...
"Within a half hour there were chunks of ice -- I can only assume
from Exit Glacier -- flowing down Exit Glacier Road," ...

Climate is the statistics of weather. That includes record events,
though the statistical significance of any one local event is small.
Larger scale regional events are more interesting...

There's an outbreak of cold Arctic air moving south from Canada at
the moment. Jet stream winds are from the north over the Midwest, at
about 160 mph. The radar this morning showed sleet in Missouri and
that storm is moving eastward such that it is now sleeting in
Kentucky. I expect snow/sleet on my head here in western North
Carolina later this afternoon and tonight, even though the present
temperature is about 52 F. Sorry, I don't know the records for this
sort of mess, but winter does seem to be a little early this year.
Many trees are still green and have their leaves, thus a mix of
sleet and freezing rain would result in considerable damage.

--
Eric Swanson --- E-mail address: e_swanson(at)skybest.com :-)
--------------------------------------------------------------

There is no such thing as "climate" anymore, only climate change. The
entire playing field for generating statitistics on weather events
undergoing rapid change.

Sleet in Missouri and Kentucky for this time of year has happened
many times since weather records began. 9 inches of rain in less
than 48 hours during the second week of October near Seward Alaska
probably happened before but maybe not since the Eocene?


http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca_into...o_Alaska2.html

This is satellite imagery of remnants of Tropical Storm Bebinca moving
into Alaska from the Pacific. It also shows Bebinca and it's
predecessor moving OUT of Alaska into CONUS.

If you want to see the origin of the weather in Kentucky you have to
play back the satellite records to the Philippines on October 2nd-4th,
2006.

Thus far we have viewed BEBINCA on Floater magnified View, NWPAC, and
NEPAC views. To continue to follow it requires going next to the WEUS
and EAUS views and NATL.

Cloud masses don't spring into existence -- they form over time and are
conspicuous objects from Geostationary orbiting satellites. in 2006
NOAA opened up four geostationary satellites to public access. Previous
it was not possible to follow events across more than half the Northern
Hemisphere from Africa to Vietnam across the Atlantic and Pacific, and
north to about Latitude 65 in mid-Alaska.

Since I am the only one collecting these ephemeral views I am the only
one with the photographic record for 2006 of where every single storm
came from and where it ended up.



Since you said:
... Since I am ...,
you may want to check out and post your comments to article on THE
PINEAPPLE EXPRESS
at The Weather Channel blog site, Oct 12, at:
http://www.weather.com/blog/weather/?from=wxcenter_news



This is a copy of the comment post on that blog entry...

I need to correct the idea that this weather system had an origin anywhere
near the Hawaiian Islands. The storm event which wrecked havok on Valdez
and both ends of the Alaska Pipeline was organized at the East Coast of
the Philippine Islands in the beginning of October, named Tropica Storm
BEBINCA.

It made the most spectacular show that I posted a collection of assorted
satellite pictures of it. The storm dissipated off the coast of Japan
having elevated an astonishing amount of warm tropical moisture. The
remnant cloud masses were then followed north to the Aleutian Islands and
swirled into Alaska from there.

The long trailing train of these cloud masses swung on a long arc
eastwards and if captured in one single still frame as you did, create the
appearance that this moist air mass was a straight line from Hawaii to
Alaska.

I have two additional webpages of the travels of BEBINCA that ends that
error.

The large set of data requires that I limit public access to mostly
thumbnail reductions. If you wish to host the data set on your servers
I'll furnish you with the enlarged originals, otherwise this is all you
get.

http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca/Bebinca_01.html
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca/ioke...a_compare.html
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca_to_A...o_Alaska2.html
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca_into...o_Alaska2.html

BEBINCA had a hot core that radiated in the infrared so brightly that I
compared it to cat-5 hurricane IOKE.


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