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I need the info - wich populated place has the highest difference in
temperature per year ? for example something like +35 C in the summer,
and -25C in the winter ?
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luka wrote:

Which populated place has the highest difference in
temperature per year? Something like +35 C in the summer,
and -25C in the winter ?


Who hasn't been listening to his geography teacher, then?

Look for a city in a region that has a lot of anticyclonic weather
winter and summer; i.e., somewhere pretty far north and continental.

You do know that places like the Sahara reach a lot more than that
during the day and can be pretty damned cold at night, don't you?

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Who hasn't been listening to his geography teacher, then?

Look for a city in a region that has a lot of anticyclonic weather
winter and summer; i.e., somewhere pretty far north and continental.

You do know that places like the Sahara reach a lot more than that
during the day and can be pretty damned cold at night, don't you?


Yes, but the place has to be populated, it s for an architectural study -
enerergy savings. I searched the most famous cityes and found that Moscow is
a pretty good example...thanks


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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:05:23 +0100, "luka" wrote:


Who hasn't been listening to his geography teacher, then?

Look for a city in a region that has a lot of anticyclonic weather
winter and summer; i.e., somewhere pretty far north and continental.

You do know that places like the Sahara reach a lot more than that
during the day and can be pretty damned cold at night, don't you?


Yes, but the place has to be populated, it s for an architectural study -
enerergy savings. I searched the most famous cityes and found that Moscow is
a pretty good example...thanks


Try Edmonton, Alberta and Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton,_Alberta#Climate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipe...hy_and_climate

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Jim Korman wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan:05:23 +0100, "luka" wrote:


Who hasn't been listening to his geography teacher, then?

Look for a city in a region that has a lot of anticyclonic weather
winter and summer; i.e., somewhere pretty far north and continental.

You do know that places like the Sahara reach a lot more than that
during the day and can be pretty damned cold at night, don't you?


Yes, but the place has to be populated, it s for an architectural study -
enerergy savings. I searched the most famous cityes and found that Moscow is
a pretty good example...thanks


Try Edmonton, Alberta and Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton,_Alberta#Climate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipe...hy_and_climate


But I think the record is a town in Russia. Try the Guinness book of
records.



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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:01:08 GMT,
Jim Korman , in
wrote:

+ Try Edmonton, Alberta and Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada also
+
+ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton,_Alberta#Climate
+
+ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipe...hy_and_climate


Here's another:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK_Fairbanks#Climate

"The Interior, home of Fairbanks and Denali National Park, has some of
the most extreme weather in the world with rapid temperature swings,
thunderstorms with hail and lightning and snow in the summer."

The record low: -66F
The record hi : 99F

A 165F temperature difference!!! yikes!

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| Jim Korman wrote:
| On Sat, 13 Jan:05:23 +0100, "luka" wrote:
|
|
| Who hasn't been listening to his geography teacher, then?
|
| Look for a city in a region that has a lot of anticyclonic weather
| winter and summer; i.e., somewhere pretty far north and continental.
|
| You do know that places like the Sahara reach a lot more than that
| during the day and can be pretty damned cold at night, don't you?
|
|
| Yes, but the place has to be populated, it s for an architectural
study -
| enerergy savings. I searched the most famous cityes and found that
Moscow is
| a pretty good example...thanks
|
|
| Try Edmonton, Alberta and Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada also
|
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton,_Alberta#Climate
|
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipe...hy_and_climate
|
| But I think the record is a town in Russia. Try the Guinness book of
| records.
|

Try Oymjakon (or similar) from "weatherunderground". This settlement is in
a valley in the middle of Siberia. In midwinter temperatures commonly drop
below -50 and have approached -80 (degrees Celsius, so Fahrenheit values are
even lower). In the summer 30 degrees C or more can be reached, giving a
temperature range greater than that between water's boiling and freezing
points. This puts locations on the American continent in the shade.

People live and work there, although I believe when it gets below -50 they
close the school and keep the children at home. The place has a weather
station which feeds to weatherunderground so you can see it for yourself.
This year Siberia has so far had a very mild winter (by its standards!), but
I have still seen values below -50 reported from here.

The place which holds the record for the coldest on earth was (the last time
I looked) the Russian base at Vostok on Antarctica (which can also be seen
on weatherunderground). The minimum temperatures recorded here are just a
little bit below the minima at Oymjakon. In summer it still stays well below
freezing. This is a scientific base, so probably is not what you want for
your architectural study, but Oymjakon is a proper town with residential
areas and the usual selection of public buildings.
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luka wrote:

I need the info - wich populated place has the highest difference in
temperature per year ? for example something like +35 C in the summer,
and -25C in the winter ?


Off on a tangent:

The Encyclopaedia Britannica has this to say about El Nino and LA Nina
effects:
"Beginning with the work of Sir Gilbert Walker in the 1930s,
climatologists recognized a similar interannual change in the tropical
atmosphere, which Walker termed the Southern Oscillation (SO). El Niño
and the Southern Oscillation appear to be the oceanic and atmospheric
components of a single large-scale, coupled interaction--the El
Niño/Southern Oscillation (ENSO).

During the warm phase of ENSO, the South Pacific trade-wind system
undergoes a change of state, or "seesaw," in which the westward-blowing
trades weaken along the equator as the normally high pressure in the
eastern South Pacific decreases and the low pressure over northern
Australia and Indonesia rises."

If you look at the phenomenon as a chart of barometric presures,
instead of the silly fractions of degrees in temperatures given by more
expert meteorologists than I, you can see immediately that it is in
some way directly related to the earth's reaction to some part of the
algorithm (for want of a better term) of the lunar phase.

In which case the beahviours of this "coupled interaction" will show up
as the above anticyclones.

If anyone is interested in following the year's course of this event I
have posted a list of dates and the likely effect on Britain's weather,
he
http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/sc...rder=smart&p=/

I will get around to trying to pin down likely supercyclones when I
have organised the lists that appear he
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...ification.html
(Sadly ballsed up by major cutbacks in UK govt spending.)

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thanks, you ve helped me a lot, i actually saw a documentay on Ojmjakon by
bbc i think, but they didn t talk about the summer time.
In the winter its the worst place - in the cemetery they have to burn and
dig a hole for 3 days to make a funeral, and in the summer the corpses tend
to surface due to some change in pressure during the summer winter
cyclus-incredible, children play normaly outside in -50 C, pens dont work,
half the equipment the british brought was unusable.
Thank again!


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luka wrote:
thanks, you ve helped me a lot, i actually saw a documentay on Ojmjakon by
bbc i think, but they didn t talk about the summer time.
In the winter its the worst place - in the cemetery they have to burn and
dig a hole for 3 days to make a funeral, and in the summer the corpses tend
to surface due to some change in pressure during the summer winter
cyclus-incredible, children play normaly outside in -50 C, pens dont work,
half the equipment the british brought was unusable.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A419393



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